Donyell Marshall.

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  1. B.e.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Donyell Marshall, from the University of Connecticut via a high school career in Reading, is in his 11th season in the NBA. The question is, could a portion of this season be spent with the 76ers? All we know for sure is, Sixers president/general manager Billy King has been trying to make it happen. All King would say was, "I've been talking to Toronto and have an interest in several of their players." Asked whether those discussions were ongoing, he said, "Yes." Sources indicated that Marshall, who has been filling a sixth-man role for the Raptors, has been on King's radar since last summer. Those same sources also suggested that the Raptors would prefer including swing man Jalen Rose in any deal involving Marshall. In that case, the transaction almost certainly also would have to involve Glenn Robinson, the Sixers forward who has spent the entire season on the injured list.</div>- www.benmaller.com

    What do you guys think about Marshall in a Sixers uniform? I don't think it's a bad idea at all. We are a team who struggles to be consistent offensively and he could defiantly help us out with that. He also is a solid player on the e glass and that could help us out also. Rose on the other hand, we shouldn't mess with him. If we were to get Donyell, if it doesn?t work out then he'll be a free agent after the season is over.
     
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    I don't think this is a bad idea at all, he brings rebounding to our lineup, something that we need and Obie will like him because he can stroke the three ball. I don't know what you would give up for him because of his age though, maybe a deal involing Aaron McKie or Williamson. McKie and Salmons for Marshall?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtKing:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think this is a bad idea at all, he brings rebounding to our lineup, something that we need and Obie will like him because he can stroke the three ball. I don't know what you would give up for him because of his age though, maybe a deal involing Aaron McKie or Williamson. McKie and Salmons for Marshall?</div>

    No, No and No.

    Marshall is a double a double when he starts, and can get a double double off the bench as he showed yesterday. He has an expiring contract as well, and really isn't old. However, your young players that would seem attractable to the Raps, are probably not touchable. Who knows though, Babcock does alot of crazy things.
     
  4. B.e.

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    I wouldn't want to trade Corliss anyway. He brings toughness and inside scoring, and we are going to need that. I think all trades propsed will include G. Rob, I don't know if I would want to give up anyone else, we aren't playing Aaron at all so he may be included as well.
     
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    i think the only non-untouchable that babcock wants is samuel dalembert, but i doubt he would do a deal for just him
     
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    man i would love to see donyell in a philly uniform. i was just thinking about that idea last nite as the sixers were playing the raptors. all that kept going through my mind during that game was, " the way donyell is playing for the raptors is the way glenn should be playing for the seventy sixers."
     
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    that will be so good if we get Dm....cmon billy make it happen [​IMG]
     
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    I can see this definetly happening. THe Raptors are pretty much starting from scratch with Chris Bosh as their guy. Glenn will attract them because its his finaly year and he can free up a lot of cap space. Donyell MArshall would definetly be good for us. I DO NOT want Jalen Rose though. If he's included in the deal I'd say No way! Donyell Marshall briings rebounding and scoring to this tea m and would be A GREAY addition imo. THe Guys we do not trade though are ALlen Iverson(duh), Corliss Williamson, Kyle Korver, Willie Green, Andre Igoudala, MArc JAckson. If any of these guys r involved in the trade I wouldn't do it. It really depends on the players included in the trade.
     
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    ^Well said. Those players such as Korver, Williamson, Green etc. have really produced for us this season and are to valuable to give up. If somehow we got Rose in this deal, I hope it`s not another Big Dog situation. But Jalen does bring some nice offense to the table and is really good for a lefty. Now for Marshall being here...DO IT. He`s a great shooter and rebounder and would be a very nice weapon for Philly. If this trade goes down, I hope it happens soon. Because if the Sixers keep losing like this, it`s back to the lottery guys.
     
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    Yeah, Marshall should be a great addition to us, but we'll prob have to give up a big man for him and Robinson because if we add him without losing a big man we would have like5 big mans, and now with 4 skinner is barely getting any playing time
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting iversonfan3:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Marshall should be a great addition to us, but we'll prob have to give up a big man for him and Robinson because if we add him without losing a big man we would have like5 big mans, and now with 4 skinner is barely getting any playing time</div>

    Yeah we have ALOT of quality big man as it is

    Big Men
    SAmuel Dalembert
    Kenny Thomas
    Marc JAckson
    Brian Skiner
    Corliss Williamson(we usually play him at power forward)

    Thats as of now We probably would give one up and if we did give one up It would be Brian Skinner IMO. He isn't doing much for the team because we can't give him a lot of playing time. Brian Skinner is a very good player, but I don't think he'll get the minutes he deserves in Philly. Donyell MArshall could play both of the forward spots and its also good to have a versatile player.
     
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    ^^Yeah out of big men, I`d give up Skinner. He just hasn`t played like he did last year with the Bucks but Skinner when he plays like he is supposed to play, he can play some good defense.
     
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    Phili would have to offer a hell of alot more than Glenn and Brian Skinner i would think.
    Sure Glen has an expiring contract but so does Marshall...so thats no help for the Raps.
    Besides, contract wise the only way Big Dog could be in it is if Rose went your way. He'd be a legit 2nd option behind Iverson. His defense is lacking but certainly no worse than G. Robs. Brian Skinner's contract might be a bit rich as well...he's not much cheaper than Marshalls and he's no where near the player in my opinion...though he's certainly an adept big man.
    Realistically, factoring in the teams individual needs as well as salary cap issues, i dont see any Phili trade going down(unless another team is involved), unless it included one of either Iggy, Dalembert or Jackson.
    OR
    Rose and Marshall are packaged together for Brown, Skinner and G. Rob.
     
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    I think Rose would be good but we have way too many players for his position. I think we would definitely have to included Green, Salmons, or Brown.
     
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    Traded

    <font color="Red">John Salmons or Aaron Mckie
    Brian Skinner
    Glenn Robinson</font>

    Acquired

    <font color="Blue">Jalen Rose
    Donyell Marshall</font>

    --

    PG- Allen Iverosn
    SG- Jalen Rose
    SF- Andre Iguodala
    PF- Donyell Marshall
    C- Samuel Dalembert

    2nd Team

    PG- Willie Green/Kevin Ollie
    SG- Kyle Korver
    SF- Corliss Williamson
    PF- Kenny Thomas
    C- Marc Jackson

    Not that bad of a team. A very much improved team is you ask me. I checked on RealGM Trade Checker and this trade went through however with a major decrease in the Raptores team outlook :x.

    Well, if Billy King can pull this off, I would personally send him a love letter because Rose and Marshall are what we really need to make a certified push in the Eastern Conference. And like Banks said "Who knows though, Babcock does alot of crazy things", that said even though we would get the best out of this trade, Badcock could end up doing this anyways for cap relief. So I'm really hoping some trade to the likes of that occurs some time soon. Right now, I'm just looking at ESPN's Bottom Line and hoping to see...

    <font face="Arial">"ESPN's Stephen A. Smith Reports, Philadelphia trades C Brian Skinner, G Aaron McKie and F Glenn Robinson in exhange for Toronto Raptors F Jalen Rose and F/C Donyell Marshall."</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">Traded

    <font color="Red">John Salmons or Aaron Mckie
    Brian Skinner
    Glenn Robinson</font>

    Acquired

    <font color="Blue">Jalen Rose
    Donyell Marshall</font>

    --

    PG- Allen Iverosn
    SG- Jalen Rose
    SF- Andre Iguodala
    PF- Donyell Marshall
    C- Samuel Dalembert

    2nd Team

    PG- Willie Green/Kevin Ollie
    SG- Kyle Korver
    SF- Corliss Williamson
    PF- Kenny Thomas
    C- Marc Jackson

    Not that bad of a team. A very much improved team is you ask me. I checked on RealGM Trade Checker and this trade went through however with a major decrease in the Raptores team outlook :x.

    Well, if Billy King can pull this off, I would personally send him a love letter because Rose and Marshall are what we really need to make a certified push in the Eastern Conference. And like Banks said "Who knows though, Babcock does alot of crazy things", that said even though we would get the best out of this trade, Badcock could end up doing this anyways for cap relief. So I'm really hoping some trade to the likes of that occurs some time soon. Right now, I'm just looking at ESPN's Bottom Line and hoping to see...

    <font face="Arial">"ESPN's Stephen A. Smith Reports, Philadelphia trades C Brian Skinner, G Aaron McKie and F Glenn Robinson in exhange for Toronto Raptors F Jalen Rose and F/C Donyell Marshall."</font></div>



    if that deal went down as a Raptors fan i'd be p*ssed.
    Mckie has a fairly long contract, Skinner's a PF but we have a few of them already and i think we could find better for the price tag. I like Salmons alot from what i saw in summer league, but still i'm hesitant. That being said Skinner's a banger and you can never have to many of them. G. Robs contract space would be HUGE for us. Not so sure about Aaron Mckie...what's happening with him? Why so few minutes?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">if that deal went down as a Raptors fan i'd be p*ssed.</div>

    Exactly. That's why my trade makes sense. [​IMG] Look at who you received for Vince Carter (no disrespect to Williams, Mourning etc.). That said, I don't see why my trade would be impossible. Like I said and as you can obviously see Badcock is looking for cap relief and is doing so by getting decent players at best in exchange of getting rid of big contracts. So again, I'm really hoping some trade to the likes of the one I proposed happens somewhere before the deadline. It would really be good for us and it will be beneficial to Raptors fans in the near future because they should have plenty of cap room.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">what's happening with him? Why so few minutes?</div>

    I have no idea. You have to check on Coach O'Brien on that one. One game McKie is playing solid defense and hitting key shots and next he doesn't even take his warm-up off. So I'm pretty much baffeled on his situation.
     
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    come to think of it, i wouldnt mind the trade that much. Skinner is a hard worker...and you cant have to many of them. The lenght of Mckie and Skinner's contract is the only concern. We'd be players for a big free agent next year if it went down.
     
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    You'd have to at least give up Samuel Dalembert if you want Marshall. The way Rose is playing for the Raptors ever since he started coming off the bench, I don't think trading him would be a smart move and thus Marshall would be the logical choice to be on the trade block. Dalembert makes about $1.7 million this season and Marshall makes more than $5 million, and the only way the deal is going to work under the CBA is if you include Kedrick Brown and some other scrap contract like Josh Davis'.

    Philadelphia trades:
    PF Josh Davis (2.8 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.4 minutes)
    C Samuel Dalembert (6.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 21.7 minutes)
    SF Kedrick Brown (0.5 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 5.5 minutes)
    Philadelphia receives: PF Donyell Marshall (10.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +1.3 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

    Toronto trades:
    PF Donyell Marshall (10.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.0 minutes)
    Toronto receives:
    PF Josh Davis (2.8 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.4 minutes)
    C Samuel Dalembert (6.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 21.7 minutes)
    SF Kedrick Brown (0.5 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 5.5 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -1.3 ppg, +3.0 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Philadelphia and Toronto being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Philadelphia and Toronto had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    We can either send Milt Palacio or Loren Woods to make the deal sweeter but that's about it.
     
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    I don't believe this. All of you don't want to drop any of you're players who produce? How in the hell are the Raps going to even be interested if you don't add someone to the deal who can produce? a good trade is one where both teams are satisfied. I don't see how the Raps are satisfied with the trades you talk about. ALTHOUGH, while Glenn is a REAL cancer, he can still make great bait.

    That being said, I'd hate to see Donyell in a 6ers uniform. He was destined to be a Rocket.. hehehhehe.
     

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