<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">too many complaints about officiating. Knicks didnt deserve to win, the Bulls did...end of story.</div> You can't get anymore evidence than that! The man was there live watching the injustice unfold. Did you even see the game?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">The same thing happened to me on Saturday but, I saw the 4th though. Basically what happened was this: We started out well and had like a 10 point lead before the Bulls started chipping it away at the half. Houston started off well but didn't play much in the second half. Then in the 3rd, it was close throughout. Kirk Hinrich was really contributing in the 3rd and kept the Bulls in the game. As the 4th quarter came, the Knicks were pulling away and had I believe an 8 point lead with about 3 minutes to go. Then Ben Gordon starts killing. He first makes a 3 and made very hard/contested/clutch layups and floaters. The Knicks as usual were playing sloppy with the lead, and with a minute left Nocioni made a wide open 3 to tie it. Then after the Knicks missed a shot, there was like 35+ seconds on the game clock. As time was going, Ben Gordon drove down the middle, and <font size="2"><u><font color="Red">CLEARLY</font></u></font> ran into Kurt Thomas for a charge, but we know officials these days ... After that Nocioni travels with the ball and I believe it gets deflected out and Bulls have final possesion. In the final possesion, Gordon cuts the corner with Sweetney on him and with the little day light given to him, he makes a running floater to give the bulls a lead with 0.1 on the clock. They couldn't even inbound it so Kurt Thomas just shoots a 3 at the end of the buzzer. That last play at the end because of the officials hurt us. Crawford just coming back from injuries, got more time than Houston, and because Lenny never sat him down, he felt encouraged to keep on taking contested, turnaround, fadeaway, jumpers. He was 4-14 and 0-7 from 3. Down the strecth it shot us in the foot. Marbury and Kurt Thomas played very well today. Marbury scored well today but the funny thing is he missed a 4th quarter freethrwo. We weren't in immediate danger but, it is funny how he chokes in the clutch. Kurt Thomas of course we know was stroking that midrange J, and kept Curry on lock again. He was only 5-16.</div> In other words...we choked when the game was on the line. Reminds me of Layden's Knicks. They would play very well and be in the lead during the first half then they'd fall apart when it mattered most. Houston didnt play much of the second half?? That's surprising considering he was 5-10. Crawford killed us it seems and from what the newspapers keep saying we couldnt stop them from driving to the basket. The biggest stat that leaped out at me from the boxscore, other than Crawford's shooting, were the rebounds. We were completely outhustled. I'm not one to complain too much about officiating if the refereeing is consistent but you make it sound like it was terrible. And it has become obvious that Marbury is not a "primetime" player and no it isnt funny. Maybe if he was still in Pheonix it would be funny but not now when he's playing for us. I thought Sweetney played defense against Curry most of the time. I mean that's what Lenny did in the previous game. Sweetney looks like he's clearly a better player than Curry. All in all I'd say it looks like Wilkens was simply outcoached...again. Crawford was a liability on both ends of the court and Houston didnt get a chance to deliver during crunchtime. You think we're better without Crawford? Another tough loss. I wish we still had Mutumbo. He could have stopped Ben Gordon from walking all over us in the fourth. But oh well, it's time to look ahead. We're three games under .500 now. Toronto, Houston(the team) and Milwaukee are all next. These games are all winnable. If we win these games we'll be back at .500. So let's keep our fingers crossed and hope Lenny is inspired to coach well for these games(at least the Houston game) or hope he's fired.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't get anymore evidence than that! The man was there live watching the injustice unfold. Did you even see the game?</div> yep. Saw the game. Twice actually. i saw the game. And i didnt say he didnt travel...what i said is that everytime the Knicks loose the officials are blamed. Calls will be made that are wrong, even down the stretch...for both sides. But you're only paying attention to the one's that hurt you. If the bulls had lost they'd be complaining about calls as well. Its just part of the game. And its no worse for the Knicks than anybody else in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't get anymore evidence than that! The man was there live watching the injustice unfold. Did you even see the game?</div> yep i saw the game. And i didnt say he didnt travel...what i said is that everytime the Knicks loose the officials are blamed. Calls will be made that are wrong, even down the stretch...for both sides. But you're only paying attention to the one's that hurt you. If the bulls had lost they'd be complaining about calls as well...though off the top of my head i cant remember to many game threads from other team forums ending with official blaming. But i can think of alot from this one. just my 2cents.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">yep. Saw the game. Twice actually. i saw the game. And i didnt say he didnt travel...what i said is that everytime the Knicks loose the officials are blamed. Calls will be made that are wrong, even down the stretch...for both sides. But you're only paying attention to the one's that hurt you. If the bulls had lost they'd be complaining about calls as well. Its just part of the game. And its no worse for the Knicks than anybody else in the league.</div> I guess you have league pass or MSG. Anyways, unfair calls will be made and they do hurt you down the stretch, but it is a whole different story when it is the last seconds of the game. No not everytime the Knicks lose, it is the officials fault. As players are playing, they adjust to the officials whistles. Games where the officials clearly mess up, and we lose the game then who is to blame. Hypothetically, if something similar were to happen to the Knicks and Raptors today, then I just get this feeling you feel the same way too. Or at least be upset.
oh for sure ^, it happens. But it's important that you hate the call/non-call, and then turn your attention and focus your attention on the things that the players/coach could control, that could of kept them from being a few bad calls away from a loss.
