CB4 finally risen, and still rising everytime.

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    <font color="Red">Its official, cb4, da new franchise</font>. I was the one that created that thread a while back before VC trade about CB4. Alot of y'all responded well to it, nuff positives. Now its obvious that cb4 needed the touches on offence more and more, and he's proven it now, day in day out that he can be effective. With Jalen and VC demanding for the ball all da time didnt open up alot of opportunities for CB4, but now with jalen relegated, and Vc outta town, CB4 finally has risen and its apparent that is still rising every day. The sky is da limit for this kid, and i believe in him soo much, watching him is just a pleasure, never cocky, humble, just reminds me of Duncan. CB4 never talks much, his game speaks volume, and a great kid. That is exactly the kinda athlete we need in t.dot. He's just taking the NBA by storm and glidin' his way thru. Watch out.
    WATCH OUT, CB4 GLIDIN' TO UR NEAREST ARENA.
     
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    totally agree man. bosh is developing a lot faster then i thought. im so excited about what the future holds for this kid. if we can surround him with the right talent, big big things are headed for him and our franchise. vince who? id much rather have chris
     
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    i actually thought when he got drafted that it would take him 2-3 years to develop, guess i was wrong and in a goodway since that guy named vince without the effort left toronto. great job for chris hopefully he keeps it up and not get fatigued by the 82 game schedule.
     
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    We need to get his minutes down a little, he didn't get much rest in the first half and has been playing 40+ minutes per game. Now we need his production, but high minutes = body fatigue which = higher chances for injury. It will also make a player start to breakdown at the end of the season.

    We have too many jumpshooters on our bench though, both out other PF's Bonner and Marshall are jumpshooters.

    EDIT: Bosh just needs to work on his strength, and continue to improve his weak areas. Bosh is already a pretty polished player, he isn't raw in terms of his skills, he came in with great fundamentals and knew how to play the game, but was said to not be ready physically. Now he just needs to gain experience and strength, and improve things like defense, continue to work on his handles, learning to play agaisnt double teams etc.
     
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    ^Agreed. 2 things of major importance that i think Chris will need to rise to the next level are his play-making abilities (assists) & his post-work.
     
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    ^Agreed. 2 things of major importance that i think Chris will need to rise to the next level are his play-making abilities (assists) & his post moves.
     
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    whoops sorry...didnt edit properly
     
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    Can you imagine when he gets a few pounds of muscle on him and masters some low post moves. OH-MY-GOD!

    His jumper is silky and I would say he IS the quickest player at his position in the NBA.

    You know, I am absolutely amazed at his patience. When he receives the ball on the wing, he knows he can take his time to decide what he needs to do.

    I think by the end of his career, he will be considered the best Raptor in history!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Carcharias:</div><div class="quote_post">Can you imagine when he gets a few pounds of muscle on him and masters some low post moves. OH-MY-BOSH!

    His jumper is silky and I would say he IS the quickest player at his position in the NBA.

    You know, I am absolutely amazed at his patience. When he receives the ball on the wing, he knows he can take his time to decide what he needs to do.

    I think by the end of his career, he will be considered the best Raptor in history!</div>


    Agreed. [​IMG]
     
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    i dont kno if he'll remain a Raptor all that long unless we see some sucess here...he's too good a player to b on a losing roster.

    If we dont make the playoffs next yr ...i think he might not resign...he might have much bettr offers other than Toronto..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting simplysic:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont kno if he'll remain a Raptor all that long unless we see some sucess here...he's too good a player to b on a losing roster.

    If we dont make the playoffs next yr ...i think he might not resign...he might have much bettr offers other than Toronto..</div>

    Raps can most likely offer him the most $, we'll see what babock does with either a)trading rose and/or marshall at the deadline, and see what we get back in return, or [​IMG] do well drafting with our 3 1st rounders this year...

    2 years, raps should be in contention again....hopefully, and thats about the time Bosh can bolt, if he doenst want to resign....
     
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    The CBA is made so that teams can keep their young players, so it allows them to offer them more money and longer contracts, their's a reason they did that, they don't want young players leaving their teams.

    So the Raptors should be able to keep him unless he REALL REALLY doesn't want to stay then we'd have to do a sign and trade which would still get us a lot, but it wouldn't be the same. I don't see that happening though.
     
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    i totally agree bosh is coming of age. Bosh really impressed me yesterday when the raps played against the struggling wolves.

    At first i thought k.g. was playing just plain out bad, but then I actually gave bosh credit, because he not only played good defense for his team but he also hit big shots down the stretch.

    I saw k.g talking trash after he made a shot with his 5 fouls, but all cb4 did was laugh.
     
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    why does bosh need to bulk up? why does everyone say that? you can strength train without putting on weight

    look:
    Kevin Garnett 21
    Position: F
    Born: 05/19/76
    Height: 6-11 / 2,11
    Weight: 220 lbs. / 99,8 kg.
    High School: Farragut Academy HS (IL)

    Chris Bosh 4
    Position: F
    Born: 03/24/84
    Height: 6-10 / 2,08
    Weight: 235 lbs. / 106,6 kg.
    College: Georgia Tech '06

    if KG can dominate the league at 22, then why cant bosh be successfull at 235? why does he need to bulk up? all he needs to do is continue to strength train. get stronger...if he gets a whole lot bigger, he will likely loose some of his quicks...which is one of his greatest assets at this point
     
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    Yes, but KG isn't really that strong, he's just an athletic freak, that's why many would say Duncan is a better defender than Garnett because Duncan is much stronger than him, and also because Duncan just knows how to ge things done on both ends. Many would also say JO is a better defender than KG for the same reasons. KG is able to get by because he's 7'1, with super athleticism and the wingspan of Luol Deng, but if he ever got like Jermaine O'neal big he would be even better than he is.

    Even watching him agaisnt us, you see that when things aren't working for him in terms of his outside game, he can't go in the post and get those easy baskets, if he was able to do that he'd be even better. I mean Donyell Marshall can push him out of position in the post.

    Bosh doesn't have to, but why not? It will enhance his game and make him all that much better, so I don't think Bosh should think, well KG didn't, so why do I have to, you know, he should just think I'll do anything I can to make myself better. That 1 or 2 times a game where Bosh seals his man and can just turn and lay the ball up can start equalling about 2 easy points <u>per game</u> for him which is huge.
     
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    Kevin Garnett is actually 240+ lbs. He's just listed at 225 lb. Same with Donyell Marshall. He's listed at 230 lbs but he's actually more than 260 lbs.
     
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    Yea that's also true because they don't change the weights on NBA.com after players rookie season's. Kwame is listed at 243 lbs, but is actually 270 lbs right now.

    Garnett is 237 lbs.
     
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    well bosh should be closer to 240 then, cuz he's certainly put on at least 5lbs...but either way...i guess you are right...he does neet to add some muscle...i just dont think that he needs to bulk up THAT Much...i think he'd for sure loose some of his mobility which is what makes him so effective in the first place

    adding weight doesnt necessarily mean skill improvment though
     
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    Yea I don't want him becoming Shaq or Jahidi White or something, that would just be scary [​IMG]

    They actually changed Bosh's weight though because last season he was listed at 225 lbs on his stats page, and he said during the summer that he gained 5 pounds. They should change is to 200 lbs, so other teams will think he's really really small, like Jared Jefferies as a rookie small.
     
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    I just wanted to add this in. I think Bosh is beyond his years in maturity. Just listening to the way he talks to the media makes me think that he is destined to become a great leader in this organization.

    Like Babcock said before, Bosh's character is going to take him a long way in this organization. I have a good feeling that he will stay with Toronto regardless of our record and regardless of what that idiot Feschuk says. He just seems like a stand up guy

    In regards to the weight issue:

    I think Bosh should add a few pounds to bang inside but not too much. A huge component of his game is to face up and take his man of the dribble. If he gets too large he will lose a step in a big part of his game and something that makes him so effective. Maybe if he added 10 more pounds or so, I think that should suffice.
     

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