Here are the 2005 All-Star lineups if voting ended today

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  1. Accord

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    If all-star voting ended today, here are the starters:

    <u>EAST: </u>
    C: Shaq
    F: Grant Hill
    F: Vince Carter
    G: LeBron James
    G: Allen Iverson

    <u>WEST:</u>
    C: Yao Ming
    F: Tim Duncan
    F: Kevin Garnet
    G: Tracy McGrady
    G: Kobe Bryant

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    I think the picks are fine, but it's a disgrace that Steve Nash isn't on there.
     
  2. durvasa

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    I would have liked Staudemire instead of Yao on the West, but I guess he was considered a forward on the ballot. My only real gripe is Vince Carter getting another starting slot. Why do people still like him? He's playing better since coming to New Jersey, sure, but Jermaine O'neal deserves it much, much more.

    If I could choose all star teams based on positions the players are currently playing:

    East
    C - Shaq
    F - Jermaine
    F - LeBron
    G - Wade
    G - Iverson

    West
    C - Staudemire
    F - Nowitzki
    F - Garnett
    G - Bryant
    G - Nash

    I get the feeling that Duncan is saving his best for the playoffs, so I'd go ahead and start Nowitzki (who's having a career year) over him. McGrady is officially the Rocket's SF right now, so he wouldn't qualify for guard. Kobe is obviously in, so the other guard position is a toss up between Nash and Ray Allen. I could go either way, but I'll take Nash.
     
  3. MagicForEver123

    MagicForEver123 JBB Banned Member

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    Every time a new update for the All Star Game comes out, a new topic has to be opened, and in every one post people how some doesn't deserve a starting spot and who they would've chosen...

    If you want to influence it, go ahead and do something about it and vote, use your mobile, vote in movie theatres, in arenas or in stores (http://www.nba.com/allstar2005/asb/eng/where.html), or online in as many as 19 languages.

    You have time until January 23.

    Bye the way, here are all the results and from there you can figure out how many votes your favorite player needs to get into the ASG as a starter: http://www.nba.com/news/allstar_050120.html#results (if he's not listed, his chances to get in as a starter are pretty much nonexistend, if he's already one of the first two in one of the six categories - east center, east forward, east guard, west center, west forward, west guard - keep voting you never know who is now making a run for his favorite player)

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the picks are fine, but it's a disgrace that Steve Nash isn't on there.</div>

    No, it isn't. You can't tell me that Nash is so much better than T-Mac (first with about 1,700,000) and Kobe (second with about 1,550,000) that he (third with 910,000) would deserve a starting spot? Also, I guess he'll be voted in by the coaches, the voting for the starting spot is just a popularity contest.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">My only real gripe is Vince Carter getting another starting slot. Why do people still like him? He's playing better since coming to New Jersey, sure, but Jermaine O'neal deserves it much, much more.</div>

    I agree with you that Vince isn't deserving a starting place at the All Star Game, but I don't think he's voted in because so many people still like him. I think many just vote another player they like, eg LeBron James, and then vote another player they know plays entertaining basketball, and that's Carter. I don't think many people vote him in because they he still deserves an allstar spot based on his statistics, it's just because they want to be entertained and can't see how eg Jamison could entertain them.

    Now, I don't think O'Neal deserves to be in, at least not as a starter. He's a great player based on talent but I can't overlook what he did in this brawl.
     
  4. Future Dynasty

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    Though I agree that Nash should probably start over McGrady this season, I'm eager to see Garnett, Bryant and McGrady play together supplemented by Duncan. As close to a true olympic team as we'll ever get. (Knock on wood.) And to go off subject briefly, I'm eager because I get the feeling that this all star game will be a tad more competitive than past games, partly because the east won the championship last year and the west will be out for a bit of revenge, partly because we all know Shaq's going to say something about the east being the NBA power now that he's there and the underlying Shaq/Kobe issues.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the picks are fine, but it's a disgrace that Steve Nash isn't on there.</div>
    I don't understand why it's a disgrace, Nash isn't as popular as Kobe and Tmac, and the fact that he has 900,000+ votes says people are recognizing him. It's more of an honour to get voted in by the coaches than fans IMO.

    I mean you hear people complaining about the All-Star picks all the time, but the All-Star game is supposed to be a fans game, the guys that deserve the spot will get in when the coaches vote anyways.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">My only real gripe is Vince Carter getting another starting slot. Why do people still like him? He's playing better since coming to New Jersey, sure, but Jermaine O'neal deserves it much, much more.</div>
    The same reason Rasheed Wallace is 4th in votes, or Carmelo Anthony is beating Amare Stoudemire is also the reason Vince get's in, he has a popularity, and East forwards suck. Antawn Jamison deserves it out of all those guys, but he's not popular, and some people won't vote for JO because of the brawl.

    Really look at he East forward list, Artest is out, JO had the whole brawl incident, Richard Jefferson is out, Jamison isn't really popular, and Grant Hill is the only other All-Star type guy, and he doesn't even have better numbers than Vince really [18.8, 4.1, 3.6 | 18.5, 4.5, 3.6]. Hill has a big fan base though, and people want to reward him for making the big comeback, but really, do you think Vince would be leading if he was listed as a guard?
     
  6. Pure

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    This just makes me sick. I hate seeing the same names in there every year regardless of how well the person played. If Vince Carter was injured all the way up to a couple weeks before the All-Star game, I bet he would still get in. It's great to see Hill in there, that is a great motivational story. I don't like at all the McGrady is starting, I don't think he has been playing well except for lately.

    If fans based their picks on skill this year, I would say something like this:

    <u>West</u>

    G- Steve Nash
    G- Kobe Bryant
    F- Kevin Garnett
    F- Tim Duncan
    C- Amare Stoudamire

    <u>East</u>

    G- Allen Iverson
    G- Dwayne Wade
    F- LeBron James
    F- Grant Hill
    C- O'Neal

    Oh well, I know it's the fans choices, and that is how it will be.
     
  7. SupraJames

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure:</div><div class="quote_post">If Vince Carter was injured all the way up to a couple weeks before the All-Star game, I bet he would still get in.</div>

    I think that did happen a couple years ago....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure:</div><div class="quote_post">
    <u>West</u>

    G- Steve Nash
    G- Kobe Bryant
    F- Kevin Garnett
    F- Tim Duncan
    C- Amare Stoudamire

    <u>East</u>

    G- Allen Iverson
    G- Dwayne Wade
    F- LeBron James
    F- Grant Hill
    C- O'Neal

    Oh well, I know it's the fans choices, and that is how it will be.</div>
    i agree totally with you pure that these guys should be on the starting lineup this year. As long as these guys get picked for the team i will be fine.

    this year of basketball has really proved to be interesting.
     
  9. Diesel

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    THe All-star game IMO is just BS anymore. It is entertaining though lol.

    Heres what it should be

    East
    C- Shaq
    PF- Jermaine O Neal(even after the brawl there is NO other Pf deserving more)
    SF- LeBron James
    SG- Dwyane Wade( break out year)
    PG- Allen Iverson (best year since MVP year)

    West
    C- Amare Stoudemire(much better than Yao)
    PF- Tim Duncan
    SF- Kevin Garnett
    SG- Kobe Bryant*
    PG- Steve Nash

    * = If injured Ray Allen should place him

    I dunno just my opinion really.
     
  10. Pure

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    I'm glad to see that a lot of people have the same type of list as me. I hate to be cruel, but people that vote for Vince Carter really don't know what they're doing. If they want a show, there is a team called the Harlem Globetrotters or And1 Streetball Team.

    I know the All-Star Game is supposed to be fun for players, but talent should play.
     
  11. Smitty

    Smitty brush em off.

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    I just wanna know one thing, why in the heck would Grant Hill be playing PF??
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting D-Mob:</div><div class="quote_post">I just wanna know one thing, why in the heck would Grant Hill be playing PF??</div>

    Because the top vote getting forwards are Vince Carter and Grant Hill.........It's really sad. I know Stan Van Gundy will never have these 2 guys on the floor at the same time though so I dun rly care. JErmaine O Neal better be playing PF for the majorit of the game.
     
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    Smitty brush em off.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">Because the top vote getting forwards are Vince Carter and Grant Hill.........It's really sad. I know Stan Van Gundy will never have these 2 guys on the floor at the same time though so I dun rly care. JErmaine O Neal better be playing PF for the majorit of the game.</div>

    I hope so..because Jermaine does deserve a starting spot.
     
  14. nkwu

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    Good thing for Grant Hill, but I was somewhat surprised by Vince's starting spot. I expected it, but didn't ([​IMG])


    and I'm in accord with Accord,where is Steve Nash? oh well, atleast he will definitely be playing.
     
  15. Pure

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    Where is Steve Nash you ask?

    Well, in the eyes of NBA fans, he is not popular. He can't throw down a tommahawk jam, and he can't make someone fall down with a crossover. That is what the fans today, sadly base their votes on.

    I don't think anyone deserves to be in that starting unit more than Nash.
     

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