Official Game Thread: Raptors @ Bobcats

Discussion in 'Toronto Raptors' started by Nasty, Jan 28, 2005.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">During this stretch, I see the Raptors going 0-7 and making a huge sink in the standings. Although the division is weak, there are still many teams in the hunt. The only thing different about the Raptors is they don't have the flexibility that teams like The Knicks have. I mean the Knicks lost 7 in a row but, they are still only a game behind 1st. I think this stretch will become what makes the season just another dissapointing year like what was stated above.</div>

    Please don't post in this forum again.
     
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    ^ I agree, but out of all the things i question...i don't get the flexibility part most...please explain
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting McGrady^1:</div><div class="quote_post">What do u mean by flexibility? Everyteam starts out 0-0..and plus if the Knicks lost their next 7 games...it would most likely make their season a disaapointing year.</div>
    The Knicks were over .500 and on top of the division. If they lost 11 of 12 and are only 1 game behind for first place, than wouldn't that mean their position was more flexible for such a streak?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Please don't post in this forum again.</div>
    Why not? The last time I checked, you weren't in charge of JustBBall and definitely not my actions. I'll post anywhere I want to and unless you are going to stop me I'll continue to.
     
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    I think he meant you are an idiot.
     
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    Whether or not that is the case, every word I said up there is true. I am still posting anywhere I feel like, and he can't do anything about.
     
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    ^What are we kids now? And when did this turn into the Knicks forum? You can brag about your team all your want but please take it somewhere else. As a Raptor fan I could give a flying F**CK about the Knicks. We are only 2 games behind them after starting the season horribly. It is still a long season ahead of us.....

    Bad loss for the Raptors. I can't understand for the life of me why Mitchell went back to Rose in the starting lineup. That is beyond me. I thought his role on the bench was perfect. Tough stretch for the Raptors in the next seven games. But we have proven that we can beat the upper echelon of teams if we play team basketball and PLAY AT HOME.

    The Raptors have to bounce back after this loss or else we might as well aim for the lottery for the rest of the season. The true test for the Raptors mettle is this seven game stretch but I still have hope that they can pull it out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Why not? The last time I checked, you weren't in charge of JustBBall and definitely not my actions. I'll post anywhere I want to and unless you are going to stop me I'll continue to.</div>

    First off, the only reason you even posted in this thread is because the Raptors lost and the Knicks won for the first time in a decade, don't try to deny that. Secondly, you're post do not reflect the Raptors at all. You're a Knicks fan coming into this forum braging about your team, like we giving a flying bleep. You say that the Raps will go 0-7 and don't even back up your statement. You don't have much knowledge of the Raptors anyways so I don't see why you should come here and start talking about the Raps going 0-7 and start talking about your Knick team.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">^What are we kids now? And when did this turn into the Knicks forum? You can brag about your team all your want but please take it somewhere else. As a Raptor fan I could give a flying F**CK about the Knicks. We are only 2 games behind them after starting the season horribly. It is still a long season ahead of us.....</div>

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    I don't know how the Raptors managed to lose against these guys. I know that the Bobcats are an elite Eastern Conference team, but why can't we play together like a team.

    I think we need jalen off the bench, he was the 4th quarter spark we relied on. Its not as though we had a great first quarter when he started.

    The bobcats are doing surprizingly well though, everyone on their team plays very hard and there aren't any big egos.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know how the Raptors managed to lose against these guys. I know that the Bobcats are an elite Eastern Conference team, but why can't we play together like a team.

    I think we need jalen off the bench, he was the 4th quarter spark we relied on. Its not as though we had a great first quarter when he started.

    The bobcats are doing surprizingly well though, everyone on their team plays very hard and there aren't any big egos.</div>

    I think that Mitchell started Rose to make a point. Rose probably kept crying about starting and Mitchell couldn't take it anymore so he tells Rose: If you start today and you play worse than when you come off the bench, you're going back to the bench. Rose will go back on bench next game.
     
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    I hope you're right Vin.

    Anyone know what's up with Eric Williams? I know that he is a defensive player, but I think that Skip and the rest of the team really aren't feeding him for open shots or iso post ups.

    He is only averaging 2.2 ppg in 16 minutes.

    When he starts we make up for it through Bosh, Mo Pete, and Rafer, but usually it seems when on offense we only have 3 options.

    Skip really needs to shoot more midrange shots, and less 3 feet beyond the arc 3 pointers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, the only reason you even posted in this thread is because the Raptors lost and the Knicks won for the first time in a decade, don't try to deny that. Secondly, you're post do not reflect the Raptors at all. You're a Knicks fan coming into this forum braging about your team, like we giving a flying bleep. You say that the Raps will go 0-7 and don't even back up your statement. You don't have much knowledge of the Raptors anyways so I don't see why you should come here and start talking about the Raps going 0-7 and start talking about your Knick team.</div>
    Who's bragging. They are playing all legit teams that have been looking good as of late. The only one is Milwaukee which will be a decent matchup but, I think Milwaukee will play with more heart. There's my reasoning. The Knicks were brought up to show how they don't have that room for error. Why would you even care, aren't the Raptors better than the Knicks? You nothing about the Knicks to comment on them either. Btw, I could comment on the crap that some of you post in the Knicks forum, but I wont.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">^What are we kids now? And when did this turn into the Knicks forum? You can brag about your team all your want but please take it somewhere else. As a Raptor fan I could give a flying F**CK about the Knicks. We are only 2 games behind them after starting the season horribly. It is still a long season ahead of us.....</div>
    Who's bragging about the Knicks. A very Raptor fan said that he sees a dissapointing season and sees a bad stretch in their next 7 games. I commented agreeing with him. I could care less about how the Raptors are doing or anything about their franchise. All I said was they don't have that kind of room for error. The only reason why the Knicks were brought up was an example of how much room for error they have.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Who's bragging. They are playing all legit teams that have been looking good as of late. The only one is Milwaukee which will be a decent matchup but, I think Milwaukee will play with more heart. There's my reasoning. The Knicks were brought up to show how they don't have that room for error. Why would you even care, aren't the Raptors better than the Knicks? You nothing about the Knicks to comment on them either. Btw, I could comment on the crap that some of you post in the Knicks forum, but I wont.</div>

    I'm almost positive that you wouldn't have posted here if the Raps won and the Knicks lost. Thanks for your explanation. All the teams that we face in the next 7 games will win against us because a) They're better than us or [​IMG] they play with more heart/.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Tough loss for Toronto while they sink in the standings and NY got a win tonight. </div>

    I can see how you show that the Knicks were brought up because they have no room for error.

    I actually don't post much on the Knicks forum, because I could care less on how they do, I'm more about my team, I'm not worrying about the others right...Even when I do post, it's too comment on majors news like a trade/injury/personal change or a Raptors-Knicks game.
     
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    Ah Banks you beat me to it. [​IMG]
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The only thing different about the Raptors is they don't have the flexibility that teams like The Knicks have. I mean the Knicks lost 7 in a row but, they are still only a game behind 1st</div>Judge I present to you factual evidence #1. Is this not bragging? I'm sorry but keep scrolling down and tell my a reason why you have more flexibility.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Who's bragging about the Knicks. A very Raptor fan said that he sees a dissapointing season and sees a bad stretch in their next 7 games. I commented agreeing with him. I could care less about how the Raptors are doing or anything about their franchise. All I said was they don't have that kind of room for error. The only reason why the Knicks were brought up was an example of how much room for error they have.</div> ^How much different is the Raptors room for error than the Knicks? I look at our schedule and yes we are playing good teams but only 2 of those games are on the road.

    Then I look at your schedule for the next 7 games:

    1. @Detroit
    2. @Clippers
    3. @Denver
    4. @Sacramento
    5. @Phoenix
    6. @Utah
    7. Miami

    I'm sorry but how much room for error do you have? You are just as likely if not more likely than the Raptors to go on a 7 game losing streak.

    Like Banks said, please state your facts. If you don't it only looks like you are braggin/hatin/uninformed. Pick one of those three. You do entire essays on JBB so I can't see why you can't at least give one reason as to why you think a certain way.

    BTW Lets not bring up what either fans have said in the past. We have an entire thread based on overzealous Knick fans and you could probably make 100 threads (due to our fan base) based on what overzealous Raptor fans have said. So let's both not go that route.

    BTWX2 I'm sorry but I'm not gonna keep on arguing about a useless post in our forum. Please the next time you post in our forum keep it intelligent and at least comment once about the Raptors without bringing up the Knicks. It's like me going in the Knicks forum and telling you useless information about the Raptors.

    Yes we are in the same conference but we are two teams that are heading in different directions. Both sides need to stop drinking the haterade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm almost positive that you wouldn't have posted here if the Raps won and the Knicks lost. Thanks for your explanation. All the teams that we face in the next 7 games will win against us because a) They're better than us or [​IMG] they play with more heart/.</div>
    How do you know what I'm going to do? You're not me and do not know so please, don't ever in your life talk about my actions.

    Pretty much, it usually comes down to who's better. Phoenix, Indiana, Washington, Dallas, Cleveland are all legit playoff teams.
    Philadelphia has been playing excellent as of late and I think they have more to fight for. Milwaukee as I said will be a good challenge but, I think at the end seeing where they are in the standings, they will play with more heart.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I can see how you show that the Knicks were brought up because they have no room for error.</div>
    I'm glad you can.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually don't post much on the Knicks forum, because I could care less on how they do, I'm more about my team, I'm not worrying about the others right...Even when I do post, it's too comment on majors news like a trade/injury/personal change or a Raptors-Knicks game.</div>
    That's good for you. Sometimes I like to go to other team boards and post.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">^How much different is the Raptors room for error than the Knicks? I look at our schedule and yes we are playing good teams but only 2 of those games are on the road.</div>
    Well I would consider the Raptors schedule harder than the Knicks. Now that the Knicks have back Hardaway, it will make things much easier

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Then I look at your schedule for the next 7 games:

    1. @Detroit
    2. @Clippers
    3. @Denver
    4. @Sacramento
    5. @Phoenix
    6. @Utah
    7. Miami

    I'm sorry but how much room for error do you have? You are just as likely if not more likely than the Raptors to go on a 7 game losing streak.</div>
    I see 3 very winnable games that we already beat and a couple of decent matchups. I only see two in which I'll predict an almost definite Knicks loss in Phoenix and Sacremento. Plus, the Knicks already were on a recent losing streak in which they lost about 10 of 11. If they are only 1.5 back, then it shows their room for error. No if they go on another skid then they'll be in trouble.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Like Banks said, please state your facts. If you don't it only looks like you are braggin/hatin/uninformed. Pick one of those three. You do entire essays on JBB so I can't see why you can't at least give one reason as to why you think a certain way.

    BTW Lets not bring up what either fans have said in the past. We have an entire thread based on overzealous Knick fans and you could probably make 100 threads (due to our fan base) based on what overzealous Raptor fans have said. So let's both not go that route.</div>
    I did state my facts. Another Raptor fan predicted a dissapointing year, and why is it that you failed to mention him? Most of those teams are very good and I thought it didn't really need an explanation but, you guys got one anyways.

    Let's not. Just as you said, we can probably make tons of threads but, I don't want it to get ugly.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">BTWX2 I'm sorry but I'm not gonna keep on arguing about a useless post in our forum. Please the next time you post in our forum keep it intelligent and at least comment once about the Raptors without bringing up the Knicks. It's like me going in the Knicks forum and telling you useless information about the Raptors.

    Yes we are in the same conference but we are two teams that are heading in different directions. Both sides need to stop drinking the haterade.</div>
    Okay I'll do that next time. I didn't mean to offend any Raptor fan or anything like that. Even if I did offend someone here, the amount of times I have been bashed by Raptor fans in this very forum doesn't compare. I'm not drinking any haterade I respect each and every team board as well as it's members even the ones that hate me up in this forum. Again no offence was intended in my post.
     
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    Flexibility....lol you still dont make much sense with that...just because the knicks have lost 7 in a row and are still only 1.5 games out of first place doesn't mean they are mroe flexible

    if thats the case...then i can just say the raptors have lose 20 of their 23 games on the road are still only 1 game behind the knicks...

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I would consider the Raptors schedule harder than the Knicks. Now that the Knicks have back Hardaway, it will make things much easier</div>


    you guys play 6 straight games on the road while we only play 2 games on the road total....and the last time i checked we are pretty good at home

    oh and...having hardaway will certianly make things much more easier [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting McGrady^1:</div><div class="quote_post">Flexibility....lol you still dont make much sense with that...just because the knicks have lost 7 in a row and are still only 1.5 games out of first place doesn't mean they are mroe flexible

    if thats the case...then i can just say the raptors have lose 20 of their 23 games on the road are still only 1 game behind the knicks...</div>
    They lost 10 of 11 are still 1.5 back. Wouldn't that mean that they are more flexible.




    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">you guys play 6 straight games on the road while we only play 2 games on the road total....and the last time i checked we are pretty good at home</div>
    Those teams are good. Playing on the road for them is not going to make a huge advantage for you guys.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">oh and...having hardaway will certianly make things much more easier [​IMG]</div>
    Yeah it will if you watch Knicks games you will be able to tell. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Pretty much, it usually comes down to who's better. Phoenix, Indiana, Washington, Dallas, Cleveland are all legit playoff teams.
    Philadelphia has been playing excellent as of late and I think they have more to fight for. Milwaukee as I said will be a good challenge but, I think at the end seeing where they are in the standings, they will play with more heart.
    </div>

    Thats a pathetic excuse. I guess we can't beat any team that's better than us, home or away [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I would consider the Raptors schedule harder than the Knicks. Now that the Knicks have back Hardaway, it will make things much easier</div>

    Oh yes, Penny Hardaway the difference maker to the rescue.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I see 3 very winnable games that we already beat and a couple of decent matchups. I only see two in which I'll predict an almost definite Knicks loss in Phoenix and Sacremento. Plus, the Knicks already were on a recent losing streak in which they lost about 10 of 11. If they are only 1.5 back, then it shows their room for error. No if they go on another skid then they'll be in trouble.</div>

    Which are the winnable games? Utah? Denver? Clippers? Using your theory, they're all better teams, so therefore you'll go 0-3 against hem.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I did state my facts. Another Raptor fan predicted a dissapointing year, and why is it that you failed to mention him? Most of those teams are very good and I thought it didn't really need an explanation but, you guys got one anyways.</div>

    One Raptor fan doesn't speak for everyone. It's just one opinion. Plus he didn't support his statement either or provide any background info, which makes his post less valuable.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats a pathetic excuse. I guess we can't beat any team that's better than us, home or away [​IMG]</div>
    Did I say that? Many teams like Phoenix, Indiana, and the rest of them are good teams. Because Toronto is at home, does that mean it makes a huge difference of the outcome?


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh yes, Penny Hardaway the difference maker to the rescue. </div>
    Yup. You talk about me not knowing anything about the Raptors, obviously you don't know much if anything about the Knicks. Hypocrite


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Which are the winnable games? Utah? Denver? Clippers? Using your theory, they're all better teams, so therefore you'll go 0-3 against hem. </div>
    What do you mean statistically speaking? We have a better record than 2 of those three and have beaten all of them.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">One Raptor fan doesn't speak for everyone. It's just one opinion. Plus he didn't support his statement either or provide any background info, which makes his post less valuable.</div>
    So why aren't you addressing the situation to him? I wonder why it's only me. [​IMG]
     

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