Official Game Thread: Raptors @ Bobcats

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    Guaranteed losses for Toronto.
    Phoenix
    @Cleveland

    for New York:
    Miami
    @Phoenix
    @Detroit
    @Sacramento

    Clippers: They were struggling a lot without a pointguard. Jaric is back, I think you guys will lose. Oh wait!!!! Penny is back, in that case u guys have it won hands down.

    Utah, hmmm. It matters if they are trying to scrap the season. If not, with AK back and he is going to be getting starters minutes in a couple games. If not the next game. Don't forget Utah beat Phoenix and San Antonio.

    I would say New York could beat the Nuggets, its on the road. But I'd say it could go either way.

    Prediction NY: 1 W 6 L

    I see a better next 7 games for the Raptors.
     
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    I tried to stay out of this one...but i cant hold it in any longer.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">They lost 10 of 11 are still 1.5 back. Wouldn't that mean that they are more flexible.</div>

    Actually both teams are equally "flexible" now. Since only a small margin seperates them, neither team can afford to loose more games than the other guy. But i fail to see your point. The Knicks have a tougher schedule over the next 7 games....you cant even argue that. Also the Knicks have a tougher schedule for the rest of the season.




    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Those teams are good. Playing on the road for them is not going to make a huge advantage for you guys.</div>

    Check out the games we've won at home...check out the teams we've beaten at home. Let me think...umm....detroit....um.....spurs....rockets.....knicks.....Knicks AGAIN!. [​IMG] We're tied for the third best home record in the East. 15-6.
    That aint bad.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Yeah it will if you watch Knicks games you will be able to tell. [​IMG]</div>


    Ok one that he played well in...one game over the season, and you're already on his c*ck. Come on man! You beat Cleveland *barely* even though they didnt have Lebron! And you were at home! This after loosing 11 of 12! And all of a sudden you figure you're back on track again. Dont give me this "we were without Houston, T. Thomas...cause thats garbage. A single Lebron is more important to the Cavs than 2 Allan Houstons and 8 Tim Thomas'.
    Dont start talking to soon, you're 1.5 games ahead of the rebuilding Raptors, and you've got a tougher schedule to go.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Yup. You talk about me not knowing anything about the Raptors, obviously you don't know much if anything about the Knicks. Hypocrite
    </div>

    hmm...6 points and 2 boards in 22 minutes, with 38% from the floor and 24% from behind the ark. Give this man the 6th man of the year award already. Now that he's back the Knicks are UNSTOPPALBE.......HARDCORE BIATCH!

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    What do you mean statistically speaking? We have a better record than 2 of those three and have beaten all of them. </div>


    You're right...you have a better record than the opposing team in 2 of the next 7 games. The raptors have a better record than 1 of the next 7 teams. Hardly a big difference. And the 2 teams that you guys are "better" than, as a matter of fact...all those teams that you're playing are road games for the Knicks. Road games in which the Knicks are 6-13 in. Only Miami is a home game. I think your schedule has more legitimate contenders in it, better overall teams and more teams that are underachieving, and could blow up at any point and wing 70% of thier games for the rest of the season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Did I say that? Many teams like Phoenix, Indiana, and the rest of them are good teams. Because Toronto is at home, does that mean it makes a huge difference of the outcome?</div>

    You better believe it makes a difference. This isn't hockey or anything, it's basketball. It's proven that home court favours the home team the most, more than any other sport. If you watched any Raptor games this year, you can see that they florish at home.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yup. You talk about me not knowing anything about the Raptors, obviously you don't know much if anything about the Knicks. Hypocrite</div>

    Please try to make sense next time. I said Penny the difference maker to the rescue...what's wrong about that? He's a difference maker ain't he?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What do you mean statistically speaking? We have a better record than 2 of those three and have beaten all of them. </div>

    1) They play in the west so they are automatically better than any team in the Atlantic Division 2) If the Knicks can't beat the Raps on the Road, what makes you think they can beat those teams? All of your upcoming road games are against teams better than the Knicks, or teams that are just above the Knicks. Even for the Jazz, Nuggets, and Clips, even though I think they're better, I just see them winning because they have more heart, you know?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So why aren't you addressing the situation to him? I wonder why it's only me.</div>

    Cuz I choose to do what I want.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dont start talking to soon, you're 1.5 games ahead of the rebuilding Raptors, and you've got a tougher schedule to go. </div>

    Retooling, not rebuilding. We still kept the core of our team, we didn't trade away everyone.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">I tried to stay out of this one...but i cant hold it in any longer.</div>
    You should've tried harder



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually both teams are equally "flexible" now. Since only a small margin seperates them, neither team can afford to loose more games than the other guy. But i fail to see your point. The Knicks have a tougher schedule over the next 7 games....you cant even argue that. Also the Knicks have a tougher schedule for the rest of the season.</div>
    Well thes Knicks in a better situation and in my honest opinion have an easier schedule than the Raptors



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Check out the games we've won at home...check out the teams we've beaten at home. Let me think...umm....detroit....um.....spurs....rockets.....knicks.....Knicks AGAIN!. [​IMG] We're tied for the third best home record in the East. 15-6.
    That aint bad.</div>
    Ummm....Why didn't you inform everyone that this is when Carter was around [​IMG]




    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok one that he played well in...one game over the season, and you're already on his c*ck. Come on man! You beat Cleveland *barely* even though they didnt have Lebron! And you were at home! This after loosing 11 of 12! And all of a sudden you figure you're back on track again. Dont give me this "we were without Houston, T. Thomas...cause thats garbage. A single Lebron is more important to the Cavs than 2 Allan Houstons and 8 Tim Thomas'.
    Dont start talking to soon, you're 1.5 games ahead of the rebuilding Raptors, and you've got a tougher schedule to go.</div>
    Penny Hardaway hasn't had much of a role this whole season. Yesterday was an example of how much we need him. Again you only bring in the stuff on the stat sheet but, you fail to mention his intangibles like leadership. We were injuried. LeBron is more valuable yes but, let's not get out of proportion. NY came in with the wrong mindset while Cleveland came with a better mindset. We already beat the Cavaliers when they had James and we were injured. We can very much do it again.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">hmm...6 points and 2 boards in 22 minutes, with 38% from the floor and 24% from behind the ark. Give this man the 6th man of the year award already. Now that he's back the Knicks are UNSTOPPALBE.......HARDCORE BIATCH! </div>
    Again, you can only look at the numbers. Hardaway takes a little bit of shots and has not been a part of the offense with Wilkens. He only played a little bit of games too. There something about actually watching someone and looking at the stat sheet.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're right...you have a better record than the opposing team in 2 of the next 7 games. The raptors have a better record than 1 of the next 7 teams. Hardly a big difference. And the 2 teams that you guys are "better" than, as a matter of fact...all those teams that you're playing are road games for the Knicks. Road games in which the Knicks are 6-13 in. Only Miami is a home game. I think your schedule has more legitimate contenders in it, better overall teams and more teams that are underachieving, and could blow up at any point and wing 70% of thier games for the rest of the season.</div>
    I'm not even talking statistically. The Knicks have very winnable games. I feel as if they are better suited for this schedule than the Raptors are theirs. We can't argue over whether they're going to win or lose their games. We just have to wait and see.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ummm....Why didn't you inform everyone that this is when Carter was around </div>

    Carter didn't have a huge role in any of those games...Maybe not the Detroit one due to his 4th quarter play, but not the others.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well thes Knicks in a better situation and in my honest opinion have an easier schedule than the Raptors</div>



    Not true. The Raps had the leagues hardest schedule for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Now over the past couple weeks, things are just starting to lighten up. Good thing is we don't have to go through brutle road trips like earlier in the season...and the majority of our road western conference games are over, and the upcoming ones aren't in any big road trips.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Penny Hardaway hasn't had much of a role this whole season. Yesterday was an example of how much we need him. Again you only bring in the stuff on the stat sheet but, you fail to mention his intangibles like leadership. We were injuried. LeBron is more valuable yes but, let's not get out of proportion. NY came in with the wrong mindset while Cleveland came with a better mindset. We already beat the Cavaliers when they had James and we were injured. We can very much do it again. </div>

    Didn't watch the game, I'm sure Penny had some impact, but I wouldn't get overhyped (not saying you are) about the Knicks winning at home against a LeBronless Cavs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">You better believe it makes a difference. This isn't hockey or anything, it's basketball. It's proven that home court favours the home team the most, more than any other sport. If you watched any Raptor games this year, you can see that they florish at home.</div>
    I guess we will have to see how they do against legit teams that are in championship contention.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Please try to make sense next time. I said Penny the difference maker to the rescue...what's wrong about that? He's a difference maker ain't he?</div>
    Oh I thought you were being sarcastic.[​IMG]


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1) They play in the west so they are automatically better than any team in the Atlantic Division 2) If the Knicks can't beat the Raps on the Road, what makes you think they can beat those teams? All of your upcoming road games are against teams better than the Knicks, or teams that are just above the Knicks. Even for the Jazz, Nuggets, and Clips, even though I think they're better</div>
    Where did I say that? What's the Knicks losing to the Raptors have anything to do about it? Because they lost to the Raptors it automatically means a loss. Brilliant logic.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I just see them winning because they have more heart, you know? </div>
    ^
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Plus he didn't support his statement either or provide any background info, which makes his post less valuable.
    </div>
    You=Hypocrite

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">because I could care less on how they do</div>
    So why are you commenting on them now? Let me guess, Cuz you can do what you want to do, my bad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I guess we will have to see how they do against legit teams that are in championship contention.</div>

    San Antonio, Detroit, Saramento, Minnisotta, Houston are not legit contenders?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Carter didn't have a huge role in any of those games...Maybe not the Detroit one due to his 4th quarter play, but not the others.</div>
    against Houston he had 16 points, 6 assists. I think that's pretty good. That's two out of 3.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Not true. The Raps had the leagues hardest schedule for the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Now over the past couple weeks, things are just starting to lighten up. Good thing is we don't have to go through brutle road trips like earlier in the season...and the majority of our road western conference games are over, and the upcoming ones aren't in any big road trips. </div>
    We can't really argue on opinions. I think their schedule is harder. Can't really argue on this.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't watch the game, I'm sure Penny had some impact, but I wouldn't get overhyped (not saying you are) about the Knicks winning at home against a LeBronless Cavs.</div>
    Penny Hardaway will have a big impact especially since he will be getting more opportunities with all these injuries.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Where did I say that? What's the Knicks losing to the Raptors have anything to do about it? Because they lost to the Raptors it automatically means a loss. Brilliant logic.</div>

    Not to long ago you said this about the Raptors upcoming opponents:

    <div align="center"><div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They are playing all legit teams that have been looking good as of late. The only one is Milwaukee which will be a decent matchup but, I think Milwaukee will play with more heart</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Pretty much, it usually comes down to who's better. Phoenix, Indiana, Washington, Dallas, Cleveland are all legit playoff teams.
    Philadelphia has been playing excellent as of late and I think they have more to fight for. Milwaukee as I said will be a good challenge but, I think at the end seeing where they are in the standings, they will play with more heart.</div> </div>

    The fact that they you said that it pretty comes down to who's better shows your brilliant logic on why the Raps should go 0-7. Oh ya...You also predict that the Bucks will play with more Heart...so that adds to the brilliant logic.

    Using your logic, the Knicks should go 0-7 during the next 7 games because either the teams are better than them, or 2, if they're not better than them, the opposing team will play with more heart and get the victory.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You=Hypocrite</div>

    It would actually be helpful if you explain your reasoning behind that theory.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So why are you commenting on them now? Let me guess, Cuz you can do what you want to do, my bad.</div>

    <u>You</u>, not the Raptor fans, brought up the Knicks. Raptor fans (wild guess) care about the Raptors and them winning games. They don't care how the Knicks do unless the Raptors take care of their games. We're not leading in the standings, and the only way we can gain ground is if we win games.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">against Houston he had 16 points, 6 assists. I think that's pretty good. That's two out of 3.</div>

    If you watched the game, you could have seen that the Raps had that game in hand, and would've won anyways without Vince, because his role in the game wasn't as big as the Raptors team defense on Yao and T-Mac, or Bosh's and Alston's play.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">San Antonio, Detroit, Saramento, Minnisotta, Houston are not legit contenders?</div>
    I didn't say that. I just think we should see how they fare against them again with a majority on the road.
     
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    ^ mrj18 man, your arguements are beseless and you came here and started talking about the Knicks and starting endless arguements.

    Either talk about the game (Raps vs B'Cats), or go back to your Knick crib.
     
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    ^ mrj18 man, your arguements are beseless and you came here and started talking about the Knicks and started endless arguements.

    Either talk about the game (Raps vs B'Cats), or go back to your Knick crib.
     
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    [quote name='Banks']Not to long ago you said this about the Raptors upcoming opponents:

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    The fact that they you said that it pretty comes down to who's better shows your brilliant logic on why the Raps should go 0-7. Oh ya...You also predict that the Bucks will play with more Heart...so that adds to the brilliant logic.

    Using your logic, the Knicks should go 0-7 during the next 7 games because either the teams are better than them, or 2, if they're not better than them, the opposing team will play with more heart and get the victory.
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    I said that because they are trying to make a playoff push, and seeing the standings, they will probably play with more heart.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    It would actually be helpful if you explain your reasoning behind that theory.</div>
    I did. I showed you 2 posts in which you contradicted yourself.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    <u>You</u>, not the Raptor fans, brought up the Knicks. Raptor fans (wild guess) care about the Raptors and them winning games. They don't care how the Knicks do unless the Raptors take care of their games. We're not leading in the standings, and the only way we can gain ground is if we win games.</div>
    I doubt that they will gain much advantage from the stretch but we will have to see.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If you watched the game, you could have seen that the Raps had that game in hand, and would've won anyways without Vince, because his role in the game wasn't as big as the Raptors team defense on Yao and T-Mac, or Bosh's and Alston's play.</div>
    Actually I did. Well wasn't that their first or second game in the season. Houston was really struggling in November. It wasn't untill recently that they got their act together.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">^ mrj18 man, your arguements are beseless and you came here and started talking about the Knicks and started endless arguements.

    Either talk about the game (Raps vs B'Cats), or go back to your Knick crib.</div>
    Actually I mentioned the Bobcats. I simply responded to someone elses opinion on the Raptors. If anything, he started it. I cause nothing. This is funny because again, the amount of posts that I found regarding the Knicks is tremendous but as CourtVision pointed out, we are not going to start a similar thread like that. All I made was an honest analysis of the Raptors and because I felt like they were playing some great teams, and a majority of them on the road, they were going to lose them. I heard a Please don't post in this forum again. That's how all the problems started. I didn't start anything.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I said that because they are trying to make a playoff push, and seeing the standings, they will probably play with more heart. </div>

    Raptors are making a playoff push aren't they...They know the standings, and they need to win as many games as possible to get the lead. Why wouldn't they play with heart? Please don't use that heart bs again when predicting and outcome of a game.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I did. I showed you 2 posts in which you contradicted yourself.</div>

    I missed that...show me again.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt that they will gain much advantage from the stretch but we will have to see.</div>

    That's exactly why we don't need a poster like you in this forum. You bring negativity to the Raptors team, post from a Knicks perspective which causes more turmoil. It would be better off if you watched a couple of games first, and then posted without thinking about the New York Knicks.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually I mentioned the Bobcats. I simply responded to someone elses opinion on the Raptors. If anything, he started it. I cause nothing. This is funny because again, the amount of posts that I found regarding the Knicks is tremendous but as CourtVision pointed out, we are not going to start a similar thread like that. All I made was an honest analysis of the Raptors and because I felt like they were playing some great teams, and a majority of them on the road, they were going to lose them. I heard a Please don't post in this forum again. That's how all the problems started. I didn't start anything.</div>

    I'm pretty sure you brought up the Knicks in your post and caused this whole mess yourself.

    Anyways, I'm leaving this Knicks forum.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Raptors are making a playoff push aren't they...They know the standings, and they need to win as many games as possible to get the lead. Why wouldn't they play with heart? Please don't use that heart bs again when predicting and outcome of a game.</div>
    Well the Bucks are playing in the harder division with the worst record. I think they will come out with more fire. What's wrong with that. Have you ever heard the expression "the hungrier team will win." If you have not it means that who ever wants the W more will get it. I think Toronto will lose because Milwaukee will come out hungrier. That's what I think.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I missed that...show me again. </div>
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact that they you said that it pretty comes down to who's better shows your brilliant logic on why the Raps should go 0-7. Oh ya...You also predict that the Bucks will play with more Heart...so that adds to the brilliant logic.

    Using your logic, the Knicks should go 0-7 during the next 7 games because either the teams are better than them, or 2, if they're not better than them, the opposing team will play with more heart and get the victory.</div>
    You never back your statement up. You were getting on my case for why predicted Raptors losing when you never backed up yours.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That's exactly why we don't need a poster like you in this forum. You bring negativity to the Raptors team, post from a Knicks perspective which causes more turmoil. It would be better off if you watched a couple of games first, and then posted without thinking about the New York Knicks.</div>
    I brought negativity?
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notorious_fh:</div><div class="quote_post">There will be no playoffs this year unless raps win some road games. Bring on the trades and draft picks. Rebuilding should be in 100% full motion.


    next 7 games raps will face:

    Phoenix
    @ Indiana
    Washington
    Dallas
    @ Cleveland
    Milwaukee
    Philadelphia


    I can see raps going 2-5 and ruining any chance left of making the playoffs. Another dissappointing year .... </div>
    I only thought the Raptors will lose two more games. Negativity? I'm just trying to keep it real. Because maybe I'm not on the Raptors c*ck, I don't think I'm bringing negativity.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm pretty sure you brought up the Knicks in your post and caused this whole mess yourself.</div>
    Why not? We are in the same division. I said there are teams still in the hunt and teams such as the Knicks had more of a stretch for flexibility and if the Raptors go on a similar HORRIBLE stretch that the Knicks recently went on, I think it will take away their playoff chances

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyways, I'm leaving this Knicks forum.</div>
    Thank God!!! [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">You should've tried harder</div>

    maybe, but i'm kinda like batman. When there's crime in gotham city he comes to the rescue. When there's mrj18 stupidity abound....there i am.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Well thes Knicks in a better situation and in my honest opinion have an easier schedule than the Raptors</div>


    Than you're not looking at the schedule's right. The Knicks have more back to backs, more and longer road trips. All the Knicks home games are one and done, back on the road, except for one 3 game stand vs Phili, Indiana, and the Lakers. A higher % of your games are vs playoff teams, and you've got more games vs West teams.
    The raps have 1 4 game home stand, 1 3 game homestand, and 3 stands that are 2 games long. We only have 1 west coast swing left and its only 4 games with one of those games being vs. the Hornets.
    Knicks have a harder schedule..its not hard to see if you just look objectively. I dont know why you cant go along with this when its readily apparent.




    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Ummm....Why didn't you inform everyone that this is when Carter was around [​IMG]</div>

    Well you guys so often refer to my "not watching Knicks games" when i've said on several occasions that i've seen about 15 games this year. So i'm goign to do the same to you. Ahem....Weellll...if you actually watched these games you'd know that Carter wasnt playing 4th quarters for us. And what he was playing was garbage. If you actually did research you'd see that we've had a better record since Carter left, and you'd also remember that the Carter-less Raps beat you for the second time this year much to the surprise of you and you're fellow Knick posters.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Penny Hardaway hasn't had much of a role this whole season. Yesterday was an example of how much we need him. Again you only bring in the stuff on the stat sheet but, you fail to mention his intangibles like leadership. We were injuried. LeBron is more valuable yes but, let's not get out of proportion. NY came in with the wrong mindset while Cleveland came with a better mindset. </div>

    Thats great, its always nice to have leadership and a player that does the little things. But end of the day every team faces injuries. Cleveland didnt have LBJ, no excuse. But still, i think you do need to take into account the fact that you beat a severally weakened team, a team without its MVP candidate. The Raptors have the league record for most games missed due to injuries in a season. Cleveland just barely loosing to you guys in MSG, is not something that you can claim gets the Knicks "back on track". And if he had of been there, i'd pretty much gaurentee that the Cavaliers would of won it. Because like so many of the Knicks games, the other teams just had "more heart", to steal you're own words.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    We already beat the Cavaliers when they had James and we were injured. We can very much do it again. </div>


    Thats right you did beat them, i dont argue that. However they also PASTED you the following game.

    Sat 8 @ Cleveland L 79 - 104





    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I'm not even talking statistically. The Knicks have very winnable games. I feel as if they are better suited for this schedule than the Raptors are theirs. We can't argue over whether they're going to win or lose their games. We just have to wait and see.</div>


    Whatever will happen will happen...but you're an odd odd soul if you actually think the Knicks schedule is easier, or even equal to the Raps. And after that nasty skid there=no more breathing room for the Knicks. And with a tough schedule....we'll see.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You never back your statement up. You were getting on my case for why predicted Raptors losing when you never backed up yours. </div>

    What part of my post are you reffering to? I don't see how using someone elses logic as an example is being a hypocrite. The second paragraph was a follow up to the first one. What do you want me to do...write my life story?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I only thought the Raptors will lose two more games. Negativity? I'm just trying to keep it real. Because maybe I'm not on the Raptors c*ck, I don't think I'm bringing negativity. </div>

    You did bring negativity. You said the Raps will go 0-7, without backing up your statement. Would you want a Raptor fan, or any other fan coming into the Knicks forum and saying that they would go 0-7 without any real reasonor logic behind it? Especially in a situation where the Knicks have been very good at home and having a good 10 game stretch or so. Like you forgot to mention why the Raptors will lose 6 in a row at home, when they have been so good there against elite teams at the ACC, all season.

    This thread would have been much more clean had you not mention the Knicks. I could understand you getting happy because the Knicks won for the first time in 10 games or so, but you don't have to do that.

    BTW, Thanks for that dirty gesture about the Raptor fans.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why not? We are in the same division. I said there are teams still in the hunt and teams such as the Knicks had more of a stretch for flexibility and if the Raptors go on a similar HORRIBLE stretch that the Knicks recently went on, I think it will take away their playoff chances</div>

    Do what you want, if you want to get into an arguement by making comments like the ones you have (stated above), then do so. Your just going to get yourself into the same arguement again and again.

    I tried to stay out of the thread, but I can't help myself.
     
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    You come in the Raptors forum and say they'll got 0-7 in their next stretch, and expect a warm welcome [​IMG]
     

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