Og, I don't see why you want the Raptors to take on Marvin Williams and Gerald Green. Both are players that are "potential" players that won't have the same kind of immediate impact that guys like Bogut and Deron Williams. Besides, good Centers and good Point Guards are hard to come buy, especially Centers with fundamentals and Point Guards who think pass first, and that's what you get with Bogut and Williams. Also, you need to understand that Williams and Green have not officially declared for the draft. As far as we know now, Williams will report for his Sophomore season at North Carolina and Green will report for his Freshman season at Oklahoma State. Also, I would steer clear of Chris Taft. To be honest, I don't see what people see in this guy. He's listed as a potential NBA Center, but he is only 6-10 and only gets about seven rebounds per game. For a guy who wasn't even a top fifty recruit out of high school, his stats and game performances don't really indicate that he's a top 3 pick like most sites project him as. I just see him as being a huge bust. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i thought about bogut...but i thought that BYU and utah were fierce rivals? if memory serves me right, bogut and araujo really went at it last year, and arent exactly the best of friends. dont know what that would do for chemistry.</div> You wouldn't want to pass on Andrew Bogut just because he was not good pals with Araujo. I mean, Bogut is looking like a future NBA superstar in college right now. Some credible mock drafts have him as the #1 pick overall, and pretty much all mock drafts have him #1, 2, 3, or 4. He's definitely worth more than Araujo, so if there really was a disslike between the two then the Raptors should look to either resolve it or deal Araujo. Urban, that list is pretty much crap top to bottom. First of all, what matters to you guys as Raptors fans is who will be the best NBA player, not who will be the best college player. Second of all, the pretty much undisputed top five in college basketball right now (in no order) is Raymond Felton, Andrew Bogut, Hakim Warrick, Wayne Simien, and Deron Williams.
I really don't think that the Raptors will have a pick high enough to draft Bogut. If he keeps up his play throughout the rest of the season and March madness I think he is a guranteed top 3 pick. I've never seen Deron Williams but he seems like the anti-Rafer. That is someone I would definitely consider drafting. I like Felton too. I believe he is averaging around 7 assists for NC as well. But if I were to choose between the two I would have to choose Williams. First of all he is leading the #1 team in the country, second of all I think he has a higher basketball IQ and third of all he is a little taller than Felton. I think Williams would be perfect for the Raptors considering Rafer's erratic play.
i understand wayne simean (sp) out of kansas is projected to go later in the draft but i love the kid. his toughness would compliment bosh's lack of it and he would fit in perfectly because marshall might try and get rich on the open market. and that mendez kid, the canadian out of niagara reminds me of kenny thomas, any team especially the raps could use some of his low post scoring.
What do you mean Bosh has lack of toughness? If you meant the ability to bang down low, yes, even though he improved mightily from last season, but if you meant the toughness as in mental toughness, Bosh is about as tough as, if not more, any second year player can be. And about drafting Deron Williams, even though he's big and has the ability to muscle his way into the paint, is that what we need at the point guard position? He lacks the quick first step and he lacks open court speed, and the last time I checked, we were building an uptempo team. If I was Babcock, I'd take Raymond Felton over Deron Williams in a heartbeat. The best case scenario would be if the Raptors can get 7th or 8th pick to draft either Green (If he declares for this year's draft) or McCants and we get Philly's pick at around 10~12th pick and draft Felton. I am against drafting any PFs because we already have Bosh, Bonner and Pape Sow (he will be able to play center, assuming we keep him next season) who all deserve playing time at the 4 spot and getting another big would just crowd the minutes. If we can't get Bogut, we should draft a swingman and a point guard. Assuming Babcock will make one or more moves before the trade deadline, if we can get another mid to late first round pick I really like Jarrett Jack as our third point guard to play behind Rafer and Felton. Scouts say the sky is the limit if he gains the experience at the point, and watching Rafer, Felton along with Alvin Williams play will provide him with the perfect experience. Besides, he's tight with Bosh and that can only help chemistry. <u>05-06 Roster:</u> <u>Starting Five:</u> C: Rafael Araujo PF: Chris Bosh SF: Morris Peterson / Jalen Rose (?) SG: Gerald Green / Rashad McCants PG: Rafer Alston / Raymond Felton <u>Bench:</u> 6: Jalen Rose / Morris Peterson 7: Raymond Felton / Rafer Alston 8: Alvin Williams 9: Matt Bonner 10: Pape Sow 11: Jarrett Jack (?) 12: Lamond Murray (?) <u>Injured Reserve: </u> 13: Loren Woods (?) 14: Aaron Williams (?) 15: Eric Williams (?) *Question marks represent uncertainties due to the possibility of trades.
Man Og... stop Gerald Green I've never even heard of him! What school does he even go to, I wouldn't risk taking him really... whoever he is. If Bogut is already taken at C, then the next best thing is Chris Taft who is a VERY VERY good player... last year exploded as a Freshman. Although I'm not sure how he's doing this year, he's gonna be special. IMO, i think we should give Hoffa a chance. 1 or 2 more years to prove himself, if he doesn't then, we draft a C. The best choices for us would be Mccants, Felton, Deron Williams, Warrick, Graham. Graham is a good choice, he moved to SF this year after being a PF... so he's strong, quick and has a good shot. This year's draft is loaded with so many good players, the whole 1st round will be good choices. There won't be a bad pick in the 1st round unless Babcock is a retard again and drafts someone unknown. Let's go Raps!
If Raptors get a good pick, they should get Bogut... good center out of Utah... be funny how Araujo and Bogut see each other on the same team, but he's projected to be #1 pick, Marvin Williams will be entering his sophomore year, and maybe til he's a senior before declaring for the NBA draft. Raptors would do good if they were able to draft Hakim Warrick and Jarret Jack.. Jack was a former teammate of Bosh, so it would be good to see two good Georgia Tech players together.. The player to watch is Ryan Gomes <--- late 1st round projection , may be a great steal for a team, Luther Head, Deron Williams out of Illinois, UConn's Rudy Gay <- he might declare next year but a good player to watch, and the WHOLE UNC, and Duke team.. and Does any1 have any news on Randolph Morris about him entering what draft?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Man Og... stop Gerald Green I've never even heard of him! </div> Haha, sorry, didn't mean to anger so many people lol
^Gerald Green is a high school senior that is expected to declare for the draft. His game sounds a lot like T-Mac's in how he can handle the ball, shoot and jump out of the gym. I dont know about bringing in a high schooler to our team though. I would rather have a college player who can come in and play right away and play an important role on this team.
I think we should draft Warrick for SF. I just hope whoever the Raptors draft that they don't get all 'I don't want to play or live in Canada' or something. That would just piss me off so much.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Man Og... stop Gerald Green I've never even heard of him! What school does he even go to, I wouldn't risk taking him really... whoever he is. If Bogut is already taken at C, then the next best thing is Chris Taft who is a VERY VERY good player... last year exploded as a Freshman. Although I'm not sure how he's doing this year, he's gonna be special. IMO, i think we should give Hoffa a chance. 1 or 2 more years to prove himself, if he doesn't then, we draft a C. The best choices for us would be Mccants, Felton, Deron Williams, Warrick, Graham. Graham is a good choice, he moved to SF this year after being a PF... so he's strong, quick and has a good shot. This year's draft is loaded with so many good players, the whole 1st round will be good choices. There won't be a bad pick in the 1st round unless Babcock is a retard again and drafts someone unknown. Let's go Raps!</div> Man Mr.Wade... Stop with Deron Williams. He's not a good fit at the point guard for the Raptors. He just doesn't have the quickness or the speed that the Raptors need. He also can't guard quicker PGs and that will cause a lot of defensive matchup problems leading to breakdowns. By the way, Gerald Green is a high schooler and that's probably why you haven't heard of him. People compare him to T-Mac but it looks like he's headed to Maryland for his first year, so I don't think we'll see him in this year's draft.
Only Pg i would take in the first round with the raptors pick is Chris Paul. Felton and Williams are rated to high becuase there is a lack of quality pgs in the NBA. If the sixers Finish strong and there pick drop's between 17-25 i would consider taking them, Felton being the better of 2. Nate Robinson is super short 5"9 listed but i like his game he's a crazy athelete 42 inch vertical leap and 4.4- 40 yard dash speed. he's some one who would be in the raptors 2nd round range and i think he will forsure be a better nba baller than deron williams. He's also got attitude and toughness, his pops was a nfl player. qucikest player in college bball.
Sorry for angering some peopel... I was getting confused. I was looking all over college mags and sites for Gerald Green and coulnd't find him, now he's a high schooler Joey Graham would be a great fit at SF on our team. He's doing very good now, and he'd be an instant addition that works on our team. Deron Williams is playing SG on Illini right now, but h'es averaging 7 apg. I never seen how quick he is yet, so if I'm mistaken then sure, we don't need a good pass first PG. Chris Paul will go too high for us to pick, same with Andrew Bogut. What about Keith Langford? If we do have a late first round pick then we could pick him. About Ryan Gomes, isn't he playing PF at 6'8? Would he be able to play SF in the NBA? Chuck Hayes would be a great late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder... he's a hard nosed, hustle player who bangs... a great addition to any team no matter what. Also Francisco Garcia could be going to the draft this year... he'd be a great pick. A little bit of Carl Krauser... although I don't see him declaring this year. Kennedy Winston has knee problems but I'm sure he'll be a good 2nd rounder. The'res so many players that we could draft... let's just hope we make the right choice. ( I think someone mentioned Mustafa Shakur already... if he declares)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Drunkballer:</div><div class="quote_post">Only Pg i would take in the first round with the raptors pick is Chris Paul. Felton and Williams are rated to high becuase there is a lack of quality pgs in the NBA. If the sixers Finish strong and there pick drop's between 17-25 i would consider taking them, Felton being the better of 2. Nate Robinson is super short 5"9 listed but i like his game he's a crazy athelete 42 inch vertical leap and 4.4- 40 yard dash speed. he's some one who would be in the raptors 2nd round range and i think he will forsure be a better nba baller than deron williams. He's also got attitude and toughness, his pops was a nfl player. qucikest player in college bball.</div> I don't think there is a chance of either player (Felton & Paul) dropping to 17-25, they both will probably go top 10. They both have great speed, and are great defensive point guards. I would love for the Raptors to pick Nate Robinson in the second round, he is a great athlete and he is a fan favorite. Nate will probably go late first though.
If we can get a PG like Paul or Felton (Felton more likely) with one of our picks, then I would grab him. However, with UNC being Final Four contenders, Feltons stock will rise madly during March, and will likely be taken Top 10, maybe higher. I just hope we get McCants . Grabbing Gilchrist or Warrick wouldn't hurt either. How 'bout Daniel Gibson? I really like this kid, he's still young at 18, but he's got a future in the NBA. Hopefully we don't make a stupid pick like taking John Petro. I wanna see how we do with our 2nd Round pick(s)...lots of a talent suppose to be down there. BJ Elder, Jawad Williams, Julius Hodge, Josh Pace, Isma'il Muhammad (instant fan fav with dunks + D) and maybe Nate Robinson...but I see him going in the 28-32,33 range.
I heard about a guy named Chris Taft from Pittsburgh. I looked at his stats and they're not all that big so why is his name so big? If he is this good than anyone can use him. Also I heard about this guy named Green who some labeled as the next McGrady. The way it is looking now, this will be a pretty good draft so far this year. The highschoolers and such are not even mentioned yet! Basically if you are blindfolded and pick a name out of a hat, you'll get someone good!
No Taft. Overrated. Read Voodoo Childs post on Taft at the top of page two. We don't need another big, when we have Hoffa and Bosh there already. Bogut is the only big I would go after, but he won't be around by the time the Raps pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtKing:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think there is a chance of either player (Felton & Paul) dropping to 17-25, they both will probably go top 10. They both have great speed, and are great defensive point guards. I would love for the Raptors to pick Nate Robinson in the second round, he is a great athlete and he is a fan favorite. Nate will probably go late first though.</div> yeh man i don't think they'll drop either, im just saying i don't think the raptors should use a lottery pick to get them. As for Robinson ( i appreciate the love you gave him) i got my fingers crossed he falls to us with an early second round pick short pg's don't get much respect in the draft, i.e Jameer nelson falling to 20th. I don't take to much faith in draft preview sites but the one i saw had Nate Robinson going early 2nd round 32nd overall. Thing is this draft has a ton of pgs in it: Chris Paul 5-11 175 PG Wake Forest So., Raymond Felton 6-0 194 PG UNC Jr. Deron Williams 6-3 210 PG Illinois Jr. Daniel Ewing 6-3 180 PG Duke Sr. Daniel Gibson 6-2 190 PG Tex (got injured, might affect his draft decision) John Gilchrist 6-3 201 PG Maryland Jr. Fr. Jarrett Jack 6-3 202 PG Georgia Tech Jr. Nate Robinson 5-9 181 PG Wash. Thats eight probable first round picks. so if we want a pg we have some wiggle room.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">If we can get a PG like Paul or Felton (Felton more likely) with one of our picks, then I would grab him. However, with UNC being Final Four contenders, Feltons stock will rise madly during March, and will likely be taken Top 10, maybe higher. I just hope we get McCants . Grabbing Gilchrist or Warrick wouldn't hurt either. How 'bout Daniel Gibson? I really like this kid, he's still young at 18, but he's got a future in the NBA. Hopefully we don't make a stupid pick like taking John Petro. I wanna see how we do with our 2nd Round pick(s)...lots of a talent suppose to be down there. BJ Elder, Jawad Williams, Julius Hodge, Josh Pace, Isma'il Muhammad (instant fan fav with dunks + D) and maybe Nate Robinson...but I see him going in the 28-32,33 range.</div> Add Wayne Simien to that second round list, I know he is one of the best college players in the nation but NBADraft.net has him going 29th currently because of his size. If the Raptors get a high second round pick, Simien declares, and some how slips to the second round I think the Raps should grab him. He has a nice soft touch, and he is a beast in the post. They can develop him into a center (6'9") so why not. He can also make a nice backup to Bosh in the short term as well. I like Daniel Gibson, I just think that he can use some more years at Texas, his number one weakness is his experience. If he goes out, I would say they have to choose between Mccants, Felton, Paul, or Gibson for their number one pick. Gibson can score, shot the three, has a killer crossover, but I think he can use a few more years at Texas.
Simien has to declare anyway, he's a senior this year. I think his stock will rise since Kansas will make the Final 4. I like Joey Graham or Warrick... they're both very attainable with our pick that we have. If Rafer stays. If he leaves we draft a pg, then a quality wing with our 2nd rounder.
