Yao Ming and Shaquille O'Neal lead a stellar list of 10 players selected by fans as starters for the 2005 NBA All-Star Game on Feb. 20 (8 p.m. ET, TNT). Yao and O'Neal each surpassed the all-time single season record for votes, while Grant Hill returns and LeBron James makes his first-ever All-Star team. Full Story I relly think Amare and nash deserve to start What do you think, who should start and who should not?
I hate the fans voting in the starters. Steve Nash deserves to be a starter, he's having an MVP season. Both Nash and Allen are more deserving as the starting guards out West. Grant Hill over Jermaine O'neal is another joke and why is LeBron listed as a guard? He's been playing small forward the majority of the year. It should be O'Neal, O'Neal, James, Iverson, and Wade. Carter's been playing good since he was traded, but he's not more deserving than JO.
<u>West Breakdown</u> Well we all knew that McGrady and Bryant would get voted in, no matter how sick it makes me. They really have to reverse the system, and have coaches vote for starters and fans for the reserves. Nash and Allen should be starting out West. Their teams both have stellar records, and they are the respective leaders. For Duncan and Garnett, those are the right choices. Game in and game out they are dominant, they deserve it. And for center, and Mr. Yao. That has to be the biggest joke ever. I would take Stoudamire anyday of the week over Yao. He has China voting for him, or he wouldn't be in. <u>East Breakdown</u> At guard, Iverson for sure deserved his spot, whether it be at point guard or shooting guard. But the person that should have accompanied him is Dwyane Wade. James should be playing small forward, like he always does. In no way is Grant Hill a power forward, but I guess he will be. Hill got in because Jermaine O'Neal was suspended, and he is a fan favorite this year. He is the League's comeback story, so it was predictable. And then we come to my greatest disgust, Vince Carter. He doesn't deserve a starting spot in any way, shape, or form. He is the most overrated player in the League, hands down. He has way too much spotlight put on his injury-filled, whiny-attitude career. Just because he can dunk a basketball, doesn't make him a great player. I think the NBA fans missed that little part. And lastly, Shaq. I don't think there is another center in the East that can contend, so this is the right pick. ---- Overall I am very disappointed with the picks. I know the Yao's and the Carter's are coming, but when it is official and am usually heated. The fans of today are so blind, to think that Carter, McGrady, and Yao deserve to start. The All-Star game is a popularity contest, plain and simple. And in closing, I really like the look of the new threads. Plain and simple, just how they should be.
team my team: West: Allen, nash, Nowitzki, Duncan and Yao. Most peopl will probably be upset that i left garnett off but their play has been equally as good and the succes of the mavs pushes Nowitzki ahead for now. East: Iverson, Wade, LBJ, JO, Shaq. (I counted LBJ as a forward he just should im sorry)
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> And then we come to my greatest disgust, Vince Carter. He doesn't deserve a starting spot in any way, shape, or form. He is the most overrated player in the League, hands down. He has way too much spotlight put on his injury-filled, whiny-attitude career. Just because he can dunk a basketball, doesn't make him a great player. I think the NBA fans missed that little part. </div> Vince might of been the most overrated player probably about 2-3 years, ago but not anymore man. It's 2005. People know the player Vince Carter, and what he's capable of, they don't overate him. I'm not sure if you noticed...but if the only thing Vince could do was dunk, then he wouldn't be averaging 20+ a game and be 16th all time on the PPG list. Right now, you couldn't find Vince Carter on the Top 50 list, in terms of dunks of this season, so the only one here that's overating him is you. Watch some of his games with the Nets, and you can see that he's not only a guy that can dunk. I agree that I do not think he should be a an All-Star this season (although he's been playing like one as a Net), but the fans vote for who they want to see. If they want to see Tracy McGrady and Carter do their dunks and score, then that's what they want. If they wanna see Shaq vs. Yao, then that's what they want.
Actually I would say Vince does deserve the spot, not a the #1 forward, but as the #2 guy. Earlier in the year no, but with how the forwards in the East are set for the All-Star game, the only player that deserves it over him is JO. Grant Hill is putting up 19-4-3 for the year, Vince is putting up 20-4-4. Also in New Jersey Vince has been averaging 24-6-5, and Pure, Vince hasn't been dunking for the past 2 years, I don't know how anyone can say he's overatted. If you hear media people talk about him, they say he's not a guy that can/wants to be the man anymore, and no one considers him a top 10 guy anymore, so I don't know who's overatting him. If you're reffering to the All-Star game, well look at the rest of the East Forwards. Outside of JO, their's no one else there that should really make it, I'd take Vince over Jamison to make the spot, and he's been playing better than Hill.
its funny how this is discussed every year and its nonstop you guys need to get this into your head....asg starters are not meant to be the ones who deserve to be there..but who the fans want to see ...i am sure i would rather see kobe and tmac over allen and nash the bench is who deserves to be there
the only complaint i have is Yao Ming, Amare Stoudemire should be starting over him.. but they listed him as a forward for some reason
Well it looks like I have Banks and og15 against me here. I know he can do way more than dunk, I have seen him play. He is a nice scorer. I usually use my argument that all he can do is dunk, because I am just used to using it. I think he deserves to be in the All-Star Game this year, but not as a starter. Yes, he is putting up great numbers in New Jersey, I know. I guess when I think about it he was putting up decent numbers in Toronto, also. But, my point is that is not the reason he got voted in. Fans didn't look at his averages and see he was doing alright, they saw that ballot and though, "Oh, Carter, Dunks!" That is what I am getting at. He can do much more than dunk, but dunking is what gets him into the All-Star Game.
When do people actually learn something about the ASG and how it works? All you can do is complaining about the starting line up and then mention your own preferred one. That's not how it works. LeBron a guard? This whole Ballot is created and decided before the season, and at that time people thought he plays guard, so he is a guard in that ballot. What he played last season and what he plays this season don't really matter. There're just a bunch of people who decides where one player is listed, and that's before this season starts. Grant Hill PF? The ballot doesn't differentiate between the two forward positions, there's only two forwards. Grant Hill over O'Neal? This is a popularity vote, the person with the most votes gets in, not the one who deserves it more. O'Neal votes were clearly down because of the Detroit incident. Why do Fans vote the starters and not some professionals? This is a popularity thing, the more fans vote the more jerseys and other fan stuff they can sell. The NBA wants to make as much money as possible and in letting the fans vote they can clearly see with which player they can make the most money.
This is what you get when it is the fans who vote. This not about who deserves it but who's the fan favorite. While some of the more deserving players aren't starting, they will surely be voted in by the coaches. The All-star game is for entertainement and fans should vote to have who they want to see in it. The All-NBA team is for those who deserve it. Jermaine, Allen, Nash, Wade and the others deserving players will be voted in by the coaches, so I don't see any problems.
i got one thing to say about Yao startin over Amare, BS!!!!! Amare is having a MVP like season while yao is putting up numbers that my self would be embarresed for
It used to be... It doesn't count. It doesn't matter. Who cares? Now that it decides home court for the finals (or did they scratch that idea?), it should be decided completely by coaches. Period.
Carter deserves it based on skill...but also deserves some minor form of skin lice on behalf of Raptor fans everywhere
The All-Star game is for the fans by the fans. It is a popularity contest, there's really no other way it could be. Plus, if you think about it, it's not a real game there's no defense till the last 4:00 minutes of the 4th quarter. East Allen Iverson- PPG Leader, Willing the 76ers by himself nuff said Lebron James- Has made the Cavalier's contenders by himself Grant Hill- for anyone to say that Grant Hill does not deserve to be in this game is way way off base. This man has been through more than any player in the league. He didn't retire and he's one of the reasons the Magic are back in the playoffs Vince Carter- This is purely a fan's pick. People remember the slam-dunk contest. Shaquille O'Neal- No need for anything here West Yao Ming- The big name 5 left in the west. TD and KG are not C's they are PF's who have redefined the 4 spot. Amare Stoudamire is not a center. He can run center on the Suns every once in awhile because most of their points come from the break. Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan- these can really go together. These two giuys have had the lock on the season MVP For three years now. Even though the Wolves are struggling KG is still leading the league in rebounds and is still one of the 3 elite bigs in the league. TD the all around best player in the league. Tracy McGrady- Not a big of a year as last year. He has shown points of greatness. Ray Allen would still be a better choice. Kobe Bryant- "best guard" in the West. He should hand over his spot to Steve Nash and keep nursing that ankle.
yao ming doesnt deserve the start over amare, hes been playing center this season and has put up some big numbers, yao ming has he largest country (by population) voting for him, that is the only reason he is starting. The west should be, Amare, Duncan, Garnett, Tmac and Kobe from C to PG.
