man they better put my boy chris webber on the team dude has been playin some serious ball as of late
My guess for the picks would be... East G-Francis G-Pierce F-Jamison F-O'neal C-Illgauskas -Arenas -Wade West G-Nash G-Allen F-Nowitzki F-Amare C-Miller -Marion -Webber
Could make a case for Rashard Lewis making the team too. And just in the beginning of the season we would've thought Melo was a lock to make it this year. But the brother just fell off the scale big time. Just hope he can get his ish together like now.
I would pick Webber over Stoudemire in the West. Stoudemire is way overrated. With his young age and athletic ability, he should be having double-doubles every night. Besides dunking the ball passed over from Nash (It has also been proved that without Nash, he shoots below .500 and only scores ~17 a game), what else does the kid do? He doesn't rebound. He can't block. He is no All Star.
You're gonna really catch it WCGballer, but for the most part you're right. Steve Nash is the Pheonix Suns. He is the catalyst that makes that offense run. Amare and Yao both become free agents in 06, I'm still taking Yao over Amare soft or not.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">I would pick Webber over Stoudemire in the West. Stoudemire is way overrated. With his young age and athletic ability, he should be having double-doubles every night. Besides dunking the ball passed over from Nash (It has also been proved that without Nash, he shoots below .500 and only scores ~17 a game), what else does the kid do? He doesn't rebound. He can't block. He is no All Star.</div> Personally, I don't care whether or not Steve Nash is the reason that he does good. Look at last season. That proves that he can do it without Nash. And here's a thought, when you grow accustomed to a player getting you the ball, and all the sudden he goes down, your play could suffer. In my opinion, he's a lock for all star reserve. He's put up PHENOMENAL numbers this year, regardless of whether or not it's becasue of Steve Nash. If you don't put him on the team this year, that's a huge snub if you ask me. Also, another person that I think is going to get snubbed, whether you people agree with me or not, is Emeka Okafor. The man has put up great numbers, in my opinion, more than good enough to at least get chosen by the coaches. He's getting a double double on a nightly basis and he's been the reason why the 'Cats have 10 wins and are playing fairly competetive, and that's something a lot of people didn't think would happen this year. I really think he deserves it, however, since he's a rookie, him making the all star team won't happen, no matter how good he is.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Personally, I don't care whether or not Steve Nash is the reason that he does good. Look at last season. That proves that he can do it without Nash. And here's a thought, when you grow accustomed to a player getting you the ball, and all the sudden he goes down, your play could suffer. In my opinion, he's a lock for all star reserve. He's put up PHENOMENAL numbers this year, regardless of whether or not it's becasue of Steve Nash. If you don't put him on the team this year, that's a huge snub if you ask me. Also, another person that I think is going to get snubbed, whether you people agree with me or not, is Emeka Okafor. The man has put up great numbers, in my opinion, more than good enough to at least get chosen by the coaches. He's getting a double double on a nightly basis and he's been the reason why the 'Cats have 10 wins and are playing fairly competetive, and that's something a lot of people didn't think would happen this year. I really think he deserves it, however, since he's a rookie, him making the all star team won't happen, no matter how good he is.</div> Big numbers like what? At the PF/C positions, ppg is not the only thing that matters. Where are the rebounds? (8.5 rpg, 22nd in the NBA) Where are the blocks? (1.60 bpg, 19th in the NBA) If all he can show for are his dunks, then he is a one dimensional player. There are lots of those in the NBA. Amare still needs a lot of maturing to do before he can be a legitiment force in the NBA. Until that happens, I'll pick Chris Webber over the kid any day of the week.
He already is a legit force. He is one of the top post players in the game. Those stats are pretty good especially JUST adjusting to a whole different position. Overrated? I think not. He already is a force in the NBA at his young age and it will only be a matter of time when he becomes the leagues next most dominant force. Also remember the all-star game is entertaining. I'm sure many people would rather see Amare thorwing down some power jams than Webber throwing down some soft jam and getting injuried. J/K but seriously Amare is more entertaining the Webber in my and probably most peoples opinions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">Big numbers like what? At the PF/C positions, ppg is not the only thing that matters. Where are the rebounds? (8.5 rpg, 22nd in the NBA) Where are the blocks? (1.60 bpg, 19th in the NBA) If all he can show for are his dunks, then he is a one dimensional player. There are lots of those in the NBA. Amare still needs a lot of maturing to do before he can be a legitiment force in the NBA. Until that happens, I'll pick Chris Webber over the kid any day of the week.</div> Amare does not need to be a huge defensive force yet. If you look at the way they play basketball, you'll note that defense is a second option in winning a game. So, in my opinion, he's got DECENT defensive and rebounding stats for a person who plays on a team that doesn't really defend. Beyond that, they also have Shawn Marion cleaning up the boards on both ends of the court, which makes it so Amare doesn't have to do so nearly as much. And what's so great about CWebbs stats? He gets less points, one more rebound, and less blocks than Amare. So, I'd love to know what's so great about him that you'd rather see him over Amare. C'mon, lets hear a case for him. Currently you've said nothing, you just stated that you'd rather see CWebb over Amare. In all actuality, Amare deserves it more. He has better stats, with the exclusion of rebounds and assists. So lets hear some reasons as to why he should go to the All Star Game over Amare, cause quite frankly, I don't see why he should.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">Big numbers like what? At the PF/C positions, ppg is not the only thing that matters. Where are the rebounds? (8.5 rpg, 22nd in the NBA) Where are the blocks? (1.60 bpg, 19th in the NBA) If all he can show for are his dunks, then he is a one dimensional player. There are lots of those in the NBA. Amare still needs a lot of maturing to do before he can be a legitiment force in the NBA. Until that happens, I'll pick Chris Webber over the kid any day of the week.</div> Wow, ignorance at its finest really... How is he one-dimensional? Do you watch him play? Put backs, jumpers, getting to the FT line...that is more than one dimensional. The kid doesn't even know the game yet, wait until he learns it..then he will be a freak of nature. He is playing on pure adrenaline, instinct, basically raw ability...he doesn't understand the game...and he is already better than Webber is today...watch out for him in the future, when he learns the game. On a side note...Moo, nice post man...you him with that one,
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Amare does not need to be a huge defensive force yet. If you look at the way they play basketball, you'll note that defense is a second option in winning a game. So, in my opinion, he's got DECENT defensive and rebounding stats for a person who plays on a team that doesn't really defend. Beyond that, they also have Shawn Marion cleaning up the boards on both ends of the court, which makes it so Amare doesn't have to do so nearly as much. And what's so great about CWebbs stats? He gets less points, one more rebound, and less blocks than Amare. So, I'd love to know what's so great about him that you'd rather see him over Amare. C'mon, lets hear a case for him. Currently you've said nothing, you just stated that you'd rather see CWebb over Amare. In all actuality, Amare deserves it more. He has better stats, with the exclusion of rebounds and assists. So lets hear some reasons as to why he should go to the All Star Game over Amare, cause quite frankly, I don't see why he should.</div> CWebb got 2.5 times the assist, more steal, a much better FT %, more rebounds. He is a better overall package than the much less polished Stoudemire. BTW I thought we are comparing Webber and Stoudemire? Why did you bring Amare's teammates into the picture? A player's ability is not measured by his teammates.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">CWebb got 2.5 times the assist, more steal, a much better FT %, more rebounds. He is a better overall package than the much less polished Stoudemire. BTW I thought we are comparing Webber and Stoudemire? Why did you bring Amare's teammates into the picture? A player's ability is not measured by his teammates.</div> Who is healthier? Amare Out of 30 General managers in the L, I guaruntee that 30 of them would rather pick Amare to build a team around. He is younger, more athletic, and has a lot more upside. Webber has been a loser his whole pro career, the King's have faired better without him. Amare has unpolished skills, let him polish his skills and he will outshine Webber in every aspect of the game except passing. Also look at the age of Amare compared to Webber, Amare is a kid..a freak, Webber is on his downfall... Amare deserves it much more than Webber.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">CWebb got 2.5 times the assist, more steal, a much better FT %, more rebounds. He is a better overall package than the much less polished Stoudemire. BTW I thought we are comparing Webber and Stoudemire? Why did you bring Amare's teammates into the picture? A player's ability is not measured by his teammates.</div> Actually....in a lot of cases, a player's ability IS measured by his teammates. Cause apparently, in your mind, Amare's success is generated off of Steve Nash. Contradicting yourself are we? Anyways, since when did a big man need to pass the ball? They don't have to, that's right. A POINT GUARD is meant to pass the ball, not a power forward. So, I'm not totally sure if the assists thing has any relevance what so ever to how good he is. A post player isn't meant to pass, they're meant to dominate the paint and score in the paint. These are things Amare does on the offensive end and is learning how to do on the defensive end. So, in my opinion, Amare is still the better overall player. He's still getting better. He's only 22. CWebb is going on 32. He's had many more years in the league to develop his offensive and defensive game. In my opinion, at this point in his career, CWebb is clearly on the downfall. People don't want to see a player on their downfall, they want to see a player who is getting continuously better, and Amare is getting better and is already better than CWebb. He's better offensively, he's getting better defensively, he's just overall getting better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually....in a lot of cases, a player's ability IS measured by his teammates. Cause apparently, in your mind, Amare's success is generated off of Steve Nash. Contradicting yourself are we? Anyways, since when did a big man need to pass the ball? They don't have to, that's right. A POINT GUARD is meant to pass the ball, not a power forward. So, I'm not totally sure if the assists thing has any relevance what so ever to how good he is. A post player isn't meant to pass, they're meant to dominate the paint and score in the paint. These are things Amare does on the offensive end and is learning how to do on the defensive end. So, in my opinion, Amare is still the better overall player. He's still getting better. He's only 22. CWebb is going on 32. He's had many more years in the league to develop his offensive and defensive game. In my opinion, at this point in his career, CWebb is clearly on the downfall. People don't want to see a player on their downfall, they want to see a player who is getting continuously better, and Amare is getting better and is already better than CWebb. He's better offensively, he's getting better defensively, he's just overall getting better.</div> Don't put words in my mouth. Ability is not scoring points. You said Stoudemire is a better player than Webber. I proved to you that Webber has better stats, now you are trying to say Stoudemire has better potential. Of course a 22 year old is going to have more potential than a 32 year old! But at present, stats have proven that Webber is a much better all around player than Stoudemire. Your only rebuttle is that "He's better offensively, he's getting better defensively, he's just overall getting better." Yea, real effective!
East Reserves: G- Dwyane Wade G- Gilbert Arenas F- Paul Pierce F- Antawn Jamison C- Jermaine O'Neal Wild Cards: Emeka Okafor, Steve Francis (Same as Marc Steins) West Reserves: G- Steve Nash G- Ray Allen F- Dirk Nowitzki F- Shawn Marion C- Amare Stoudemire Wild Cards: Chris Webber, Rashard Lewis
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WCBallerz:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't put words in my mouth. Ability is not scoring points. You said Stoudemire is a better player than Webber. I proved to you that Webber has better stats, now you are trying to say Stoudemire has better potential. Of course a 22 year old is going to have more potential than a 32 year old! But at present, stats have proven that Webber is a much better all around player than Stoudemire. Your only rebuttle is that "He's better offensively, he's getting better defensively, he's just overall getting better." Yea, real effective! </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It has also been proved that without Nash, he shoots below .500 and only scores ~17 a game</div> I'm not putting words in your mouth. You essentially said it yourself right there. You pretty much said that Amare needs his teammates to be successful. Beyond that, I don't ever recall that Amare has more potential. And here's a thought for ya. At this point in his career, Amare is averaging more points, more blocks, more boards, and beyond that, has played more games. He's stayed healthy. That's one knock on CWebb right there. Beyond that, his team is better without him. Went what, 13-10 WITH him last year? I guarantee if you take Amare from the Suns, they won't be worth a damn. They'll lose their ONLY inside prescence they have. On the other hand, the Kings last year were BETTER without CWebb. Amare not only has the stats to be an All Star, he's on a good team this year. I don't understand what you have against Amare. His team is winning, he's playing great. Why shouldn't he be in there? He's doing everything a big guy should do. He's getting blocks, a decent amount of rebounds, and he's scoring. CWebb, the only thing he's doing better is shooting free throws and stealing the ball. His FG% is lower, his efficiency rating is lower, less points, less blocks, barely more steals, barely more boards, the only thing he really has on him is assists. And quite frankly, assists don't matter as a big guy.
