This just in..

Discussion in 'Sacramento Kings' started by harbingerofdoom, Feb 8, 2005.

  1. harbingerofdoom

    harbingerofdoom JBB JustBBall Member

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    Refs screw the Kings again...
    Pheonix wins the game 125-123 after the refs fail to call goaltending on Millers shot from under the basket.

    for those of you who would like proof, you can find it here (you must have the divX 5 codec for your media player)

    http://hkeylocalmachine.com/goaltend.avi

    I am not saying that the Kings should have won this game, but this was an obvious blown call that most definetly affected the outcome of the game.
    there is no doubt this game should have gone into overtime.

    By the way, I will be very surprised if Miller does not get a 1 game suspension after he went on what can only be described as a tirade at the refs.
     
  2. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You can't blame the refs for not making that call in the crunch. They normally let stuff play out, should they have been on top of it? Yes. Would most refs be on top of that? Not really.
     
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    This game was a mirror image of the miami game.They get a big first half lead and then let them back in it.Then have a decent sized lead in the 4th and let them back in it.Plus a controversial call going against the Kings.Bad call or not the Kings should be pretty upset they didnt shut the door on phoenix when they had the opportunity,even though pheonix is an offensive cyborg.Ill be surprised if Sac doesnt take it out on Seattle in their upcoming game.
     
  4. King James X3

    King James X3 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Quick Notes:

    - Webber drops another triple-double (24 Points, 10 Rebounds, 12 Assists) This guy's not an ALL-STAR? That's absurd, but he moves into 2nd in the league in Triple Double's, and sets a New Season High in assists.

    - Steve Nash drops a New Season High in Points Scored, posting 33 points against Sacramento on 12-20 Shooting, and going 7-8 from the free throw line. Not to mention dropping 17 dimes, making Nash accountable for 67 of The Phoenix Suns's points tonight, this guy is something else...

    - No Greg Ostertag tonight, game must have been too fast for his TAG which is understandable. However no Kevin Martin either, which is very interesting, perhaps Rick Adelman was afraid to go too deep into the bench?

    - Cuttino Mobley goes 5-7 from Three Point Land, dropping 23 Points and 8 rebounds in the losing effort.
     
  5. sactomofo

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    Kings got jobbed. Plain and simple. There is no way that that was not a goaltend. The refs needed to step up and make the call. Last night they failed to do their jobs and there should be consequences. At the very least, the instant replay should have been able to be used in some capacity...

    BTW: Props to harbingerofdoom for the link to the video. That video should leave no doubt in anyones mind.
     
  6. harbingerofdoom

    harbingerofdoom JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't blame the refs for not making that call in the crunch. They normally let stuff play out, should they have been on top of it? Yes. Would most refs be on top of that? Not really.</div>
    You have got to be kiddin...

    1) Yes, I can blame them and I did.
    There is no excuse for for not making a call like that. Had the game been +/-4 pts given the time that was on the clock, I could see not making that call as even had it been counted and a foul occured, it would not have changed the outcome of the game. But the way the game went down, the refs should never determine the outcome of the game in the fasion they did. This is typical of the types of missed calls that always leaves room for discussion on whether the refs show favoritisim or "hold grudges" (as Mobley put it)

    2) What "most refs" would be on top of or not is immaterial to the topic. the only thing that matters is that they SHOULD have been on top of it. that just creates more problems when the ref's make mistakes and the league refuses to acknowledge it. Officiating is getting worse and worse every year and its that exact attitude that keeps the officiating from getting any better are we supposed to wait until the officiating gets so bad that it comes down to several blown calls in a championship series before it gets fixed?

    Be very careful about not confusing the Kings winning or loosing with the issue of bad officiating. The two are completely separate. The Kings lost because they missed free throws. They missed layups. They had the game in their hands and they lost it. That has nothing to do, however, with what I am talking about. so any of you who want to turn this into "well if they did this" or "well the Suns did this, that or the other", start a different thread because that aint what I am talking about

    There is absolutly no excuse for any ref to blow a call that could possibly have such far reaching affects as this one.
     
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    Top performer of this game was no doubt steve nash.This must have been one of the best games hes EVER had if not the best.33 points on 60% shooting and 17 assists?!?Definitely the key for Phoenix in this game.Steve Nash is a pretty good scorer,but 33 points on that fg%?A couple more performances like that and theres no doubt who the regular season MVP is.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Steve Nash is a pretty good scorer,but 33 points on that fg%?A couple more performances like that and theres no doubt who the regular season MVP is.</div>

    I think there is already no doubt that Steve is MVP (or at least better be).

    On the game tho, I think it's ridiculous stupidity like this can be overlooked. The refs should've reviewed the replays. I agree with a poster above who stated that if the Suns had a 4 point lead or even a 3 point lead, there would be no need to look at the replay, but in a potential game-tying situation, it is defiantely a MUST for them to check the replay. I bet they just wanted to go home early. Lazy b@stards.
     
  9. harbingerofdoom

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ksc6000:</div><div class="quote_post">I think there is already no doubt that Steve is MVP (or at least better be).

    On the game tho, I think it's ridiculous stupidity like this can be overlooked. The refs should've reviewed the replays. I agree with a poster above who stated that if the Suns had a 4 point lead or even a 3 point lead, there would be no need to look at the replay, but in a potential game-tying situation, it is defiantely a MUST for them to check the replay. I bet they just wanted to go home early. Lazy b@stards.</div>
    that is part of the problem. there is no way once a mistake is made that the refs can take a look at it. even if one of them had wanted to (which by thier abnormally quick exit from the floor under heavy security, it was apperent they wouldnt have wanted to anyway) there is nothing that would even allow them to look at a replay of it. the only use of replay that is currently allowed is the last second shot and only to see if it left the players hand before the buzzer sounds.
     
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    Funny thing is Brad Miller shouldn't of been in a position to have a chance at making that last second shot. Chris Webber travelled to get him the ball under the basket and got away with a push off. Kings had their chances to win the game and blew It. Suns showed why they have the joint best record in the NBA. They made plays when It mattered.
     

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