These are all possible blockbuster deals from The Sac Bee that met conform to salary-cap restrictions, personally I'm only interested by deals 1 & 4, but they're all conversation provoking none the less. So here they are... BLOCKBUSTER I Kings trade to New York: Chris Webber. New York trades to Utah: PG Stephon Marbury, PF Kurt Thomas. Utah trades to Kings: F Carlos Boozer, F Matt Harpring. Utah trades to New York: PG Raul L?pez. ------------------------------------------------------ Why the Kings would do it: With a starting lineup of Boozer, Mike Bibby, Cuttino Mobley, Peja Stojakovic and Brad Miller, the Kings get younger and would be set to contend for a title for the next five seasons. Harpring, a good shooter, adds solid depth. Why they wouldn't: Boozer has yet to prove he's ready for prime time. Why the Knicks would do it: Isiah Thomas loves Webber. Why they wouldn't: If Webber crumbles due to injury, the Knicks might not be heard from again for a decade. Why the Jazz would do it: Utah has soured slightly on Boozer, and team owner Larry Miller has hinted that Boozer may be on the trading block. Marbury is an elite point guard who could turn around the team. Thomas is a suitable replacement for Boozer and a good fit for a Jerry Sloan team. Why they wouldn't: Marbury might drive Sloan into retirement. BLOCKBUSTER II Kings trade to Philadelphia: Chris Webber. Kings trade to Toronto: Darius Songaila, Bobby Jackson. Philadelphia trades to Kings: C Samuel Dalembert. Philadelphia trades to Toronto: F Glenn Robinson, F Corliss Williamson, first-round pick. Toronto trades to Kings: F Jalen Rose, F Donyell Marshall. ------------------------------------------------------ Why the Kings would do it: Finally, an answer to their defensive and rebounding prayers in up-and-coming, 6-foot-11 Dalembert, who is averaging 6.9 rebounds and 1.72 blocks in just 23 minutes a game. Rose is a talented scorer. Marshall adds rebounding up front. Why they wouldn't: None of the three players the team would get in exchange can bring Webber's overall versatility. Why the 76ers would do it: Philly would love to have a big-man scoring option to team with Allen Iverson. Webber would catapult the team into an Eastern Conference power. Why they wouldn't: 76ers are already loaded down with bad long-term contracts. Why the Raptors would do it: Toronto clears salary-cap space (Robinson's contract expires after this season), gets a first-round pick and picks up a talented forward in Songaila. Why they wouldn't: Might want more young talent in return. BLOCKBUSTER III Kings trade to Boston: Peja Stojakovic, Bobby Jackson, Kevin Martin. Boston trades to Kings: F Paul Pierce. ------------------------------------------------------ Why the Kings would do it: Pierce is tough, fearless and a gamer. Why they wouldn't: Still doesn't address defensive or rebounding deficiencies. Does this team really need another scorer? Why the Celtics would do it: Boston still fondly remembers Larry Bird - and Peja may rekindle that buzz for the fans. Why they wouldn't: Danny Ainge has made a lot of deals - some good, some bad - and needs to be certain before he pulls the trigger on a blockbuster like this. BLOCKBUSTER IV Kings trade to Denver: Peja Stojakovic, Matt Barnes. Denver trades to Kings: F Carmelo Anthony, F Nene, G Greg Buckner. ------------------------------------------------------ Why the Kings would do it: Despite his struggles this season, Anthony was being compared favorably to LeBron James last season and has unlimited potential. He could flourish in the Kings' system. Nene is a high-flying, athletic big man. Why they wouldn't: Anthony has turned into a head case. Trading Peja to a Western Conference rival might be risky. Why the Nuggets would do it:The team would love to have a long-range threat such as Stojakovic, especially if he regains the MVP form he displayed during the first half of last season. Why they wouldn't: What if Anthony turns out to be as good as previously thought? Thoughts? 1 & 4, Right?
Any of those deals would be interesting to see happen. The trade for Paul Pierce, would be sort of a wash. Peja is better suited for the Kings because he is a catch and shot player and moves well without the ball by sending his defender into a pick. Pierce is more of an initiator and is more effective when he handles the ball and does a lot of the decision making. I could see a potential problem arising between him and Webber. The 3 way deal with Utah and New York makes the most sense for the Kings. But makes the least sense for the Jazz. Marbury and Sloan would not get along at all, because Marbury refuses to be unselfish with the ball. Sloan had a major clash with Arroyo because of Arroyo's shoot first mentality, so Sloan v. Marbury would be a daily drama in Utah. Adding Boozer and Harpring to the Kings would be a great fit. Losing Webber would be tough because of his versatility, but Peja played MVP type basketball last year with Webber out. Boozer is younger and is a banger the Kings can use in the West. Having Harpring off the bench gives them another physical player who can score without having a play called for him. Nice job on the trade ideas.
uhhh??? why would you want to trade C-Webb, hes putting up triple doubles every night almost... trade Peja if anyone.. but trading Webber? that'd be a bad move.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Da_Future_2k5:</div><div class="quote_post">uhhh??? why would you want to trade C-Webb, hes putting up triple doubles every night almost... trade Peja if anyone.. but trading Webber? that'd be a bad move.</div> 3 Reasons.. 1. He's old and has a history of being injured. 2. The older he gets, the more expensive he gets, maxing out at $22.3M 3. The Kings likely won't win a title with Webber, because the West is, too competitive. So they might as well re-shuffle the deck and get some talent back while, he's still an impact player.
Isiah also loves Marbury and much more than Webber. By trading Marbury and Kurt Thomas and receiving Chris Webber only then it is a bad move. I see that move only disturbing chemistry and killing the development of Michael Sweetney. I don't think the Carmelo Anthony one will happen though. Good ideas though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">3 Reasons.. 1. He's old and has a history of being injured. 2. The older he gets, the more expensive he gets, maxing out at $22.3M 3. The Kings likely won't win a title with Webber, because the West is, too competitive. So they might as well re-shuffle the deck and get some talent back while, he's still an impact player.</div> don't forget all his crappy shooting nights and his turnovers
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bigsheldy:</div><div class="quote_post">don't forget all his crappy shooting nights and his turnovers</div> Yeah, they happen on the same nights as his 3rd quarter triple doubles. Thanks for reminding me how great of a player he is.
trade #1 - no chance yes, NY and Webber would be a great match for eachother. but the killer there is Boozer. While Harpring could probably fit into this offense, I dont think that Boozer would fit in at all especially from a chemistry aspect. While looking between the three 4's that you could have to start who would you give the start to? Boozer? not on this team. Harpring? maybe, but over Songaila? probably not if only because Songaila has a solid grasp on the way this offense works. The only real positive the Kings get from this trade is dumping Webbers large contract. A definite plus if you are looking at a rebuilding year, but not right now trade #2 - My personal favorite of the four ideas.. at least untill you start looking at the lineups that this trade would cause. How are you going to have Miller start at the 5 and have Dalambert and Tag sitting on the bench behind him? Marshall can play inside & out and has the ability to grab a lot of rebounds but with this lineup can you really do that? Cant really justify that idea. You would have to move Miller to the 4 and start Dalambert at the 5 with this lineup. Then you have to figure out what you are going to do with Rose. There is no way he can start at the 4 in the west, he would get destroyed. Rose's strengths are playing 1-3 any of which he can play well. But lets be honest, there is no way he is going to start on the Kings at the 1 or the 3. I dont personally think that Rose is going to be good enough to start in front of Mobley, but that is really the only place Rose has any chance of starting. The end result for the Kings here is a team that is going to have to really make a lot of position shifts and create the possibility of having to start from scratch half way through the season. I could see this being an off season trade possibility, but no way it happens before the trade deadline this year Trade #3 I would love to see, but would never happen Pierce would add defensively to the Kings contrary to what most people would think. Not quite the long range scorer that Stojakovic is, Pierce knows how to get to the hole and draw the foul which is something that the Kings would love to have in order to open their offensive game a bit more. The real question is can Pierce adapt his game to the style that the Kings play? I think he can and it would create a lot of matchup problems for teams that would face a team with Bibby, Mobley, Pierce, Webber and Miller as the starting 5. And just why wouldnt it happen? because Ainge is honestly not smart enough to pull the trigger on a deal like this and Petrie most likely wouldnt like the unknown of whether Pierce can shed his tendency to act like he is the only option. Trade #4 - uhh..what? There is just flat out, no way, not a snowball's chance south of the mason-dixon that this trade would EVER happen. first, Melo is as good as people think he is, he just isnt as mature as they had hoped. But I think that Denver would be pretty foolish to ship him off to anywhere just yet. Secondly, I dont believe that Petrie would be interested in nursing along yet another potential star just to see him fizzle out sitting on the Kings bench for a few seasons (can you say GW?) not saying that I am 100% on anything I said here, just my personal thoughts.
Unless a reasonable trade is made for a MOBILE shotblocker I think making any trade moves would be a mistake.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Unless a reasonable trade is made for a MOBILE shotblocker I think making any trade moves would be a mistake.</div> sounds like peirce to me. yes, he is primarily an offensive player, which would fit into the Kings current offensivly minded scheme yet still bring some improved defense to the team he has avaraged over 1BPG which is not bad for an offensive styled player. has a career avarage of 6.6 rpg and 8.7rpg in the playoffs with the majority of those coming on the defensive end. has a pretty good ft% (shot 81% this year so far and 81% last year) So far this year he is avaraging over 4apg which would also fit perfectly with the offensive style that the Kings are playing. If... and only IF the Kings are looking to make some real noise before the trade deadline with a major deal, this is the one to make. you are not giving up a whole lot of offense, an issue which would not really be noticed on a team that is stacked offensivly and you would be picking up some defense which is this teams achillies heel. not only that, but you are picking up someone who consistantly improves during the post season and is a proven playoff performer. cant see how anyone could really question a trade like this on the Kings side and on the Celtics side, there are currently a lot of rumblings that Ainge may have Pierce on the trading block.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bronbron23:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't fully agree with any of the trades especially the c-webb one why?</div> 1) Injuries 2) Age 3) Large contract I am not saying I agree with trading him at this point either, but those are some pretty solid reasons for looking in that directions
^^^^^ Wouldn't work. Peja makes 7 Million this season, the two aforementioned players only make a combined 3.5 Million, roughly... I think moving Peja is the only possible solution. Webber won't be going anywhere because of his health, his age, and most important his contract, and the majority of other pieces on Sacramento either don't have the trade value or aren't worth moving. Lets not forget, scoring won't be an issue next season if we can get Bobby Jackson back and healthy, so lets move Peja and get some defensive minded players amongst our roster. Just my opinion....
Keep in mind, Petrie is not someone that is going to make a change just for change's sake. That means if he cant find a clear cut upgrade at any position, there will be no trade.
Yeah I was looking at the peja for igoudala+dalembert trade on hoopshype before I posted,youre right KJX3 I dont know what the hell I was looking at.Good point harbinger...
