Peja for Lamar

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  1. cula

    cula JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The best rumors of the weekend involved the Lakers. One scenario had Lamar Odom going from the Lakers to Sacramento for possibly Peja Stojakovic...</div> link
     
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    This trade would certainly have both positives and negatives.

    Peja hasn't been playing well this season, but primarily I think it is because teammates (alla C-Webb) aren't getting him touches when he needs 'em. And all said and done, he's still averaging 20 ppg and a potential threat from downtown at any time.

    Odom would certainly shore up some of the rebounding issues that the Kings have. And Odom's athleticism and versitility has got to be intriguing to Sac.

    One problem I forsee is that Odom does better when the ball is in his hands, and CWebb already dominates the ball. And Odom can hit the three ball, but he is nowhere the shooter that Peja is. Mobley is streaky at best, and Bibby can hit it when he is open, but Peja is really our most consistent shooter from three... when he gets in rythmn and enough touches.
     
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    Not happening. Doesn't work salary wise..Bobby Jackson was supposed to be the filler...Sac turned it down. They reported it on ESPN.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Not happening. Doesn't work salary wise..Bobby Jackson was supposed to be the filler...Sac turned it down. They reported it on ESPN.</div>do you have a link?
     
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    Posted it in the Laker "Huge Trade going down" thread
     
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    I'm all for an Odom trade. I've been a fan of his since I played against him in a summer league game, and he blocked about 42 of my shots. I've never really liked Peja anyway, so I'd love to have my two favorite University of Rhode Island guys on the Kings.
     
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    he is a good SF for the kings... will run, score, and one BIG THING



    <u>REBOUND!!</u>
     
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    From a Laker point of view, I would NEVER do this. Peja is too one dimensional. He's a great shooter, but that's about all. He's not a good rebounder, he's not a good defender, not the greatest passer either, the only thing he does well, is shoot. He does not do a great job creating shots for himself or other people. Odom, on the other hand, is MUCH more versatile than Peja. He is a good shooter both inside and out, he can create and penetrate off the dribble, he's a great passer, good rebounder, and he's a pretty good defender. This trade would probably be great for the Kings, but for the Lakers, I don't see how it would be good. They'd lose their second leading scorer and their best rebounder. That's just not gonna happen from a Laker standpoint. They won't risk trading him off for someone like Peja.
     
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    Both gm's have denied this...but I don't know, with the supposed Utah deal and everything, you can't trust a GM anymore...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">From a Laker point of view, I would NEVER do this. Peja is too one dimensional. He's a great shooter, but that's about all. He's not a good rebounder, he's not a good defender, not the greatest passer either, the only thing he does well, is shoot. He does not do a great job creating shots for himself or other people. Odom, on the other hand, is MUCH more versatile than Peja. He is a good shooter both inside and out, he can create and penetrate off the dribble, he's a great passer, good rebounder, and he's a pretty good defender. This trade would probably be great for the Kings, but for the Lakers, I don't see how it would be good. They'd lose their second leading scorer and their best rebounder. That's just not gonna happen from a Laker standpoint. They won't risk trading him off for someone like Peja.</div>

    i'm sorry, but Odom havent prove anything yet, he didnt won anything, he has never been an all star.. so why say hes better than peja, when he won a world championchip, three point contests, has been on the all star team multiple times and his team is always doin well.. (maybe not now but anyway)..
     
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    Because Peja is a shooter and nothing more. He doesn't show up for the playoff's either. Lamar on the other hand is a lot more versatile, he can score, defend, rebound, run the point, create for himself and others.
     
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    Its true,Odom is a far more complete player.It just depends on what a certain team needs.
     
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    I dont know... Im leaning toward Peja as the better player. I remember at one part where that cat was the leading scorer in the league last year. I dont know whats up with him this year but I know hes a great player. I personally think Redd for Peja may be a good trade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting FooDoggg3xB:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont know... Im leaning toward Peja as the better player. I remember at one part where that cat was the leading scorer in the league last year. I dont know whats up with him this year but I know hes a great player. I personally think Redd for Peja may be a good trade.</div>

    Scoring isn't everything in this league...most teams would take a good rebounder and defender over a good scorer..

    Peja's Stats
    19.7 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.9 apg, 1.18 spg, .22 bpg, .443 FG%, .920 FT%, .383 3pt%, and 38.3 mpg

    Odom's Stats
    15.7 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, .65 spg, 1.06 bpg. .475 FG%, .695 FT%, .303 3pt%, and 36.4 mpg

    Odom is the overall more versatile player, he is a triple double threat every night he steps onto the court, the same can't be said for Peja. Peja is a one dimensional player, if you stick a player like Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen on him, he is ineffective. If you stick those players on Lamar, he might struggle to score, but he will get you assists, reboungs, blocks, and run the point. Odom is much more valuable and versatile than Peja will ever be.
     
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    These teams shouldn't be allowed to trade with each other. Keep the rivalry going, it's been one of the better rivalries of all time. From a Laker point of view, I really hate this deal. The last thing the Lakers need is another small forward, and another scorer. Peja is a great player and shooter, but his defense is a liability and the Lakers are hurting in that department as it is.

    I also don't see this deal being great for the Kings either. Both Odom and Webber are most effective with the offense running through them. He does help with the rebounding, but I could see some problems adjusting to the offense. It would be an amazing passing team once they got it together though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Scoring isn't everything in this league...most teams would take a good rebounder and defender over a good scorer..

    Peja's Stats
    19.7 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.9 apg, 1.18 spg, .22 bpg, .443 FG%, .920 FT%, .383 3pt%, and 38.3 mpg

    Odom's Stats
    15.7 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, .65 spg, 1.06 bpg. .475 FG%, .695 FT%, .303 3pt%, and 36.4 mpg

    Odom is the overall more versatile player, he is a triple double threat every night he steps onto the court, the same can't be said for Peja. Peja is a one dimensional player, if you stick a player like Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen on him, he is ineffective. If you stick those players on Lamar, he might struggle to score, but he will get you assists, reboungs, blocks, and run the point. Odom is much more valuable and versatile than Peja will ever be.</div>
    calling Odom a triple double threat may be giving him a bit too much credit.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Odom is the overall more versatile player, he is a triple double threat every night </div> That IS hyping him up a bit.I agree with cula thats too much credit.He'll have a fair amount of trip dubs in his career though.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Peja is a one dimensional player, if you stick a player like Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen on him, he is ineffective.</div> Its true that there are defenders that can give Peja a really hard time but I dont think either of the two mentioned are in that category.Its not like theyre hounding Peja while he handles the ball.He's one of the best at moving without the ball,one of the best 3 point shooters and hes 6'10.Odom is a better addition to most teams but there are a few that would be better with Peja.This is all speculative though...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cula:</div><div class="quote_post">calling Odom a triple double threat may be giving him a bit too much credit.</div>

    It really isn't. Every night when he steps onto the floor he is a threat to give you a triple double. He almost guaruntees a double-double, and when his teammates hit the shots that he creates for them, he comes close to, if not getting, a triple-double.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post"> Its true that there are defenders that can give Peja a really hard time but I dont think either of the two mentioned are in that category.Its not like theyre hounding Peja while he handles the ball.He's one of the best at moving without the ball,one of the best 3 point shooters and hes 6'10.Odom is a better addition to most teams but there are a few that would be better with Peja.This is all speculative though...</div>

    How are those two not in the category? Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen are two of the two perimeter defenders in the league, probably 2 of the top 5 overall defenders in the league, if they can make Kobe struggle, there is no reason why they wouldn't give Peja his problems.
     
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    I gave the reason why I dont think those two players are in that category.Its because of the way Peja scores and because of his size.guys like Odom,Marion,Kirilenko etc. are the typical types of guys to give Peja problems.Anyway,who cares...
    Lamar Odom is certainly capable of getting triple doubles but i dont think hes a THREAT to get one everytime he steps on the floor.Peja is capable of scoring 30 points but hes not a threat to score 30 every game.Odom doesnt have more than one trip dub this year,im not even sure if he has one.
     

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