WILL a Trade really happen??? random thoughts and questions

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  1. Paulijacks

    Paulijacks JBB JustBBall Member

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    I am just wondering if anyone thinks a trade will actually happen with the timberwovles? the most likely cannidates are and I believe in this order are:

    1 spree....he has been upset all year about his contract and has not really played up to his 14.6 million salary. I think spree is the best to trade because teams would be attracted to his contract coming off the books and the fact that he is a veterain that has been to the play offs before. So we might be able to get a good player or some young talent or draft picks, but if we dont get a deal that is going to make us better lets keep him for the year and then we can use what cap space we can gain from losing spree next year.

    2 Sam.....he has been hurt a lot this year and when he has played he has been pretty inconsisent. I wonder if sam's age is catching up with him, also i wonder if his hip surgery last year is affecting his hamstring this year..Sam has proven to be a great 4th quater player and cuclth shooter so lots of teams would love to have this quality point guard and the fact the next year is his last year of his contract dosnt hurt again maybe we can get young talent or draft picks for sam. again i would only trade sam if we get better...it might be wise to hold on to him and see if he will play great next year cause it is his contract year.

    Troy hudson...has played very inconsisent and has complained a bit about his role with the team.....he has proved in the past that when he is hot he can score with anyone in this league..but he has also proven this year he can shoot pretty poorly...so who knows what we can get for troy but maybe as part of a package deal.

    candi man....he has had a few of his best games as a twolf lately which has shown why he was the number one pick in the draft but aslo we have all seen how poorly he can play....teams might like to have another big body come play off time....again not sure what we could get for him stright up but again maybe part of a package deal.

    and finally wally.....i dont velieve that the twovles actually want to trade wally cause he has been the 2nd best twolf after KG...but with wally you might be able to attract a truly quality player....who i am not 100% sure but names that have been out there before such as SAR, Walker, maybe Redd, who knows...but trading wally could improve the Twovles for years to come.


    These are just ideas that have been running around in my head i would love to hear your guys ideas...about if a trade will happen and if it does who it should be and in who the wovles should most be looking to trade. hope everyone has a great night
     
  2. Mamba

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    I think they will shop Sprewell around, any takers? I doubt it. He is asking for more money when he hasn't been that good this year, if he would of produced and played 100% then he would of gotten the contract he wants.
     
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    Sprewell is obviously the number one guy to get rid of, but that's looking to be impossible. A team almost has to look at Sprewell as potential to play better for them, because right now he's not worth anything to anybody. He will come out and score 25 points about 1 out of 12 games, and the rest of the time he scores 2 points, and all of that is pretty bad for any team, not to mention his attitude and high chance of suspension, since he has to average at least a suspension a year.

    Sam could be traded, and has some value,, except for the fact that he has been an injury problem since last years play-offs and a team would probably have to use him as a bench player because of it(he is becoming too unreliable as a starter).

    Troy is worth something because i think he could be a starting point guard, he has proven hes a star in the past, I think hes just having a bad season due to the situation hes in on the team.

    If kandi man keeps putting up 15-20 point games, i might say we should keep him, there is still hope. I'd hate to ship him off and see him beome the great center he was supposed to be for another team, we've done that a few too many times. But his value is also rising if he keeps some consistent numbers, so we will see.

    Wally is our number one tradeable player, because e is worth a lot.
    Good shooters are a precious thing in this league, and a lot of team could benefit from him, starter or bench player.(Wally would probably demand to be a starter on another team) They should only trade wally if we get a very good return, otherwise, we should keep him, he's a hard worker and productive player.
     
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    rumor is that t'wolves is getting baron davis in a 3 team deal that would include sprewell
     
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    If the Wolves offer to pay Sprewell's salary for the remainder of the season, then they may be able to trade him, for good value too. But without that, there is no chance that anyone would even take him for nothing I think.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tesh15:</div><div class="quote_post">rumor is that t'wolves is getting baron davis in a 3 team deal that would include sprewell</div>

    If B.Diddy can accept being the #2 guy on a team, then I think this would be awesome for the Wolves. But I don't know how the Wolves would be able to get that kind of return for Spree.
     
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    I think Sprewell will be the only one traded before the deadline.

    I really don't care what we get for him.
     
  7. Linkin

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    Spree is tradeable, if a team wants cap relief for next season because he's huge contract will expire. That's the only way anybody would want him. Kandi has had a few good games but is very inconsistent. I don't believe he'll be traded because of his recent good play. If they trade him, it will only be for another center. The deadline is close and I don't think any trade will happen.
     
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    I think no trade will happen in my opinion. Of course, I wouldn't mind Spree, Sam, or Kandi out of here, but I don't think any of these trades will happen.
     
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    i Think It's B&*^sh@t That The Most Underacheiving Team In The League Is Not Making A Move.
     
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    sabretooth what an emotions show [​IMG] i really don'y beileve they will pull a trade by friday...
     
  11. Henacy

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    There is not I repeat not a player available that will put the Wolves back into the championship hunt. Jason Kidd isnt available, & he is probably the only serious difference maker out there. So the Wolves would be making a move just for the shake of making a trade which isnt smart. To trade Spree the Wolves would more then likely have to take a bad contract with years left on it in return, that just isnt smart. The Wolves might as well hold on to him & let him walk in the offseason. And take the cap space, granted the Wolves would still be over the cap or right at it. But at least the wont have a big contract on the books for 2 or 3 years like they would if they traded Spree. The Wolves need to just play the season out without making any irrational moves. And then start making decisions during the offseason whether to trade Sammy, Hudson, or whoever, during the offseason you are able to have a clearer view of your future agenda.
     
  12. Sabretooth

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    Some names that I believe may be attainable that interest me:

    Darius Miles and Joel Pryzbilla - Miles really looks up to KG and would love to play with him. He's Young, has been working on his jumpshot, a dunk waiting to happen, a real energy bringer, needs some veteran guidance and KG would be perfect. Pryzbilla would come home, has really been clogging the lane and blocking shots left and right, can match Kandi on the offensive end.

    Donyell Marshall - Enough Said.

    I've heard that the Warriors aren't high on Dunleavy and we would take him off thier hands......with Derek Fisher [​IMG] .

    Or maybe thisGolden State trades: PG Derek Fisher (12.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.1 apg in 29.8 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Golden State receives: SG Latrell Sprewell (12.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.1 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -2.8 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -2.4 apg.

    Minnesota trades: SG Latrell Sprewell (12.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.1 minutes)
    Minnesota receives: PG Derek Fisher (12.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.1 apg in 29.8 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +2.8 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +2.4 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Golden State and Minnesota being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Golden State and Minnesota had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    Or we could send Trelly-trell-trell home for Micheal Redd. I heard he may want to go to Cleveland, but it's interesting. And he's cheap, very cheap.

    Just a couple.
     
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    RealGM says Minnesota is in the hunt for Michael Redd, along with Golden State, Portland, Denver, and us.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure:</div><div class="quote_post">RealGM says Minnesota is in the hunt for Michael Redd, along with Golden State, Portland, Denver, and us.</div>

    That rumor has been around for a week. It's interesting to hear but, in my opinion, it is unlikely that we would get him. Redd has already shown interest in signing with the Cavs next season, unless we could convince him to stay, it wouldn't be a good longterm deal for the team. He only makes 3 million, so him for Spree wouldn't work.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Or maybe thisGolden State trades: PG Derek Fisher (12.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.1 apg in 29.8 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Golden State receives: SG Latrell Sprewell (12.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.1 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -2.8 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -2.4 apg.

    Minnesota trades: SG Latrell Sprewell (12.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 31.1 minutes)
    Minnesota receives: PG Derek Fisher (12.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.1 apg in 29.8 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +2.8 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +2.4 apg. </div>

    This is a bad trade, it wouldn't improve the Timberwolves. Dale Davis, soon to turn 36, has been on the decline for a long time but his contract will expire next season like Spree. But why would the team want Fisher? We would have 4 point guards and his contract will expire in 2010. He will cost 5 million to 7 million over that span of time. It would handicap the team more than to just let Spree walk away next season.
     
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    Michael Redd already said he wants to retire in Milwaukee, so hes not available.

    The only guy I wannt out of Golden State is Jason Richardson, so unless we can pull that off, they can keep their players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Linkin:</div><div class="quote_post">This is a bad trade, it wouldn't improve the Timberwolves. Dale Davis, soon to turn 36, has been on the decline for a long time but his contract will expire next season like Spree. But why would the team want Fisher? We would have 4 point guards and his contract will expire in 2010. He will cost 5 million to 7 million over that span of time. It would handicap the team more than to just let Spree walk away next season.</div>

    Dale Davis is a tough rebounder. And Fisher is a helluva locker room presence with rings to show. He can be a clutch shooter who has a defensive mentality. I know that we have some other point guards, but what I'm saying is he WILL be one of our 2 - 3. We're paying Hudson the kind of money that Fisher is getting and Fisher is a world and a half better. He's consistent, can be clutch, is a true professional, and is a defender. In my opinion, Hudson would be the odd man out. Houston needs a point, somebody out there needs a point.
     
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    AND fisher has been there and done it. i say fisher would be a good compliment to the wolves.
     
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    I'll tell you now, that it is very unlikely that anything is gonna happen in the next few hours. I'd actually rather let McHale have his way the rest of the season and let things work out with the team we have now. I think there can be a lot of improvement for the secnd half, and I think things are looking up. So I think we will see what happens with this team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Dale Davis is a tough rebounder. And Fisher is a helluva locker room presence with rings to show. He can be a clutch shooter who has a defensive mentality. I know that we have some other point guards, but what I'm saying is he WILL be one of our 2 - 3. We're paying Hudson the kind of money that Fisher is getting and Fisher is a world and a half better. He's consistent, can be clutch, is a true professional, and is a defender. In my opinion, Hudson would be the odd man out. Houston needs a point, somebody out there needs a point.</div>

    Fisher isn't a pure pg who can set plays well and is a shoot first pg like the Sam and Hudson. He has experience and defense (unlike Sam and Hudson) but I don't see why the team would want him and there hasn't been any rumors that there is any. It doesn't work even if we trade Hudson. Dale Davis is going to be 36 soon, will he just be a playing the same role as Ervin. The team needs younger players because they are already one of the oldest teams in the league.

    And the really doubt there will be any trades because their is only a couple of hours left until the deadline.
     
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    There has been talk of "staying pat", like it's okay to be where we are. I understand that we do have a good team as it stands with good chemistry, but think of this
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    THE NUMBER 1 SEEDED SAN ANTONIO SPURS GOT BETTER WITH A TRADE


    That shows that even a team who is rolling is not resting on it's laurels and doing what they can to assure themselves of the best chance to take the title.

    Fisher - I've seen a number of games when Fisher looks to run the plays called. I don't see him as an "It's My Time" player.
     

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