C-Webb Unhappy?

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  1. Really Lost One

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    Philadelphia - During one of Chris Webber's first games with the Sixers, he sat down on the bench and said, loudly enough for a few teammates to hear: "<font size="7"><font color="DarkOliveGreen">I can't wait 'til this year is over</font></font>." Nice attitude, huh? Well, nobody said that being No. 2 to Allen Iverson was going to be easy. Vince Carter has embraced his second-fiddle status with the Nets, but he still gets his shots, while Jason Kidd has all the pressure of being the No. 1 guy. But Webber is clearly struggling in his new role.


    "It's not necessarily about me and A.I. being on the same page," Webber said. "It's just two different philosophies. That's all I can say. You just have to see if you can fit that philosophy."


    Webber is having a tough time with coach Jim O'Brien's philosophy. O'Brien runs full-contact practices and even requires his players to have their ankles taped for contact in pregame shoot-arounds - a practice not heard of since Pat Riley used to put the Heat through three-hour, kamikaze shoot-arounds in preseason. With his mobility limited because of his knee troubles, Webber isn't thrilled about full-contact sessions, just as he expressed his displeasure when O'Brien said that they want him to attack out on pick-and-rolls. "I can't do that," Webber told teammates. "My first step is not there."


    Source: My Daily News.com
     
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    Ahh I wanna see a real link to this artice...I really doubt this ever happened.
     
  3. Martin

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    Yeah,I can't wait till this season is over too,we need to get rid of O'Brien.
    His offensive system sucks and at times seems like he doesn't have a defensive system.
    Only ones who can play well under his offensive schemes are Kyle and Allen,others aren't doing that well.
    Get Mo Cheeks or someone...get Larry back!!!!
     
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    i can't get the link but it was on hoopshype on sunday
     
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    This comes as no surprise. Webber has had a history of being UNHAPPY. He was unhappy when he played for Don Nelson at Golden State, so he got traded to the Wizards. Then he was unhappy with the Wizards because he didn't want to play center, so they traded him to the Kings. Then he was unhappy being traded to small-town Sacramento because it was a culture shock for him. Now he's allegedly unhappy playing second fiddle to Iverson and complaining about full contact practice. Seems the only time Webber is happy is when he's injured and watching from the sidelines. So expect a phantom injury during an important stretch of games for the 76ers. Of course, this will only improve the 76ers chances anyways, because it's been statistically proven team's with Webber play better when he's off the court.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">This comes as no surprise. Webber has had a history of being UNHAPPY, blah blah...</div> keeps going on and on..

    that's just a bunch of bs man. have you seen webber, he usually has the biggest smile on. i'm sure webber and AI are going to get along fine, just needs time to adjust to each other or cwebb to adjust to AI. i think it's going to be a great combo (don't care what the critics say) and they are going to make noise in the playoffs. hopefully they can take down the heat tonight, very, very tall order, but if they win, then the sixers can be..contendors?

    anyway i agree with the guy who mentioned maurice cheeks. i like o'brien, but cheeks is awesome, he would make a great coach for any team, what a classy guy.
     
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    I really don't think that Webber is unhappy with the 76ers team. Instead I believe at this point, he is just unhappy with himself and how he isn't producing like most think he should be. Even though Webber is starting to come along now last week was a different story. If you read the 76ers post game notes, you would see the comments Allen and Webber made about him wanting to play good. Webber said that he was trying to hard to fit in, and Iverson said that same of Webber and told him that he needed to get his "groove" back. Since then Webber has been playing a lot better, and right now I doubt there is any tension between him and the 76ers organization.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting holyace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">keeps going on and on..

    that's just a bunch of bs man. have you seen webber, he usually has the biggest smile on. i'm sure webber and AI are going to get along fine, just needs time to adjust to each other or cwebb to adjust to AI. i think it's going to be a great combo (don't care what the critics say) and they are going to make noise in the playoffs. hopefully they can take down the heat tonight, very, very tall order, but if they win, then the sixers can be..contendors?

    anyway i agree with the guy who mentioned maurice cheeks. i like obrian, but cheeks is awesome, he would make a great coach for any team, what a classy guy.</div>Yes I have seen Webber, I've actually had dinner with Webber a couple times, and he's not a very friendly guy. He is very intellectual, and loves basketball, I'll give him that. However, when he was drafted by the Warriors he refused to sign any Warrior fan jerseys of him, he would only sign Michigan gear. If you've followed his career you'll find plenty of articles about his displeasure with other teams. I never said he would not get along with Iverson. I'm sure they get along already, but to hear him say he's "unhappy" about being on a new team is just typical Chris Webber behavior.
     
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    Ahh these are the kind of things you wish didn`t happen. I was hoping this wasn`t true but I saw it on CSN this morning and they had footage of Webber on the sidelines just shrugging or shaking his head. He even didn`t pay full attention in practice. Who knows maybe C-Webb just hasn`t completely mashed with the team yet. Hopefully we see some improvements in his attitude very soon.
     
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    ...He will never be happy..give him his money while he is injured..only time he is happy. I can't stand players that aren't happy where they are, they should be happy enough to be in the league, there are millions of talented people out there who would give all their families have earned for a shot in the league, and Webber is complaining becuase he is second fiddle...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes I have seen Webber, I've actually had dinner with Webber a couple times, and he's not a very friendly guy.</div>Really? What was it like?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">O'Brien seeks to resolve issues sooner than later

    Associated Press

    MIAMI -- Chris Webber and Philadelphia 76ers coach Jim O'Brien met Monday to clear the air about Webber's lack of playing time two days earlier against Atlanta.

    Webber, recently acquired from Sacramento, played 28 minutes in Philadelphia's 98-97 win over the Hawks. He came out with 3:38 left in the third quarter, returned with 3:43 left in the fourth and scored four late points to help the 76ers pull out the win.

    "Chris has a lot of confidence in himself. He knows what he can bring to the table," O'Brien said. "I have a number of reasons why I do what I do from the standpoint of playing guys a certain amount of minutes. ... I didn't know it was going to be an issue. It bothered him. So I dealt with it."

    Webber averaged 33 minutes in his first five games with Philadelphia; he played an average of 36.3 minutes in 46 games for the Kings earlier this season.</div>

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    Was that the problem?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nice attitude, huh? Well, nobody said that being No. 2 to Allen Iverson was going to be easy. Vince Carter has embraced his second-fiddle status with the Nets, but he still gets his shots, while Jason Kidd has all the pressure of being the No. 1 guy. But Webber is clearly struggling in his new role.</div>
    I don't think you can compare it to Vince, in terms of offensive role, and shot attempts, Vince isn't second fiddle to Kidd, he's the first option on the team, he plays the role of a playmaker, he get's the double teams etc. Vince is a much much better scorer than Kidd, and he's the main go to guy offensively.

    Iverson is a 30 PPG scorer, Kidd is a 14-16 PPG scorer. Their's really no comparison in playing next to Kidd, and next to Iverson. Kidd is looking to get you and everyone the ball, while though Iverson can pass, he's looking to score as opposed to getting you the ball.

    The only article I saw was the playing time one, but Webber is a guy that is used to dominating the ball, so playing with Iverson will definately be tough. Kenny Thomas said his first game as a King that it's so much different there because everyone moves the ball, and you can actually play basketball as opposed to Philly where you mostly have to wait for Iverson to do something.
     
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    Shapecity wasn't paying attention , he was too busy under the table fiddiling with Webber's penis [​IMG] He's probably saying he's unfriendly because he gave him some juice in the eye... haha kidding [​IMG]
     
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    It is amazing how many times you hear incidents like these come out of the woodwork. Also, let the guys gel. I am sure that once they start going on their winning runs 4 out of 5, 8 out of 10 etc then happy will be a word thrown around more often. Everyone is frustrated at the moment because we know we can win some serious ball games but until all the pieces mesh (which takes time) it is frustrating and this can be misconstrued as unhappy. Philly will come good by playoff time. Just watch.
     
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    Dude, I'd watch out who your saying that to. Your most likely gonna get banned 4 that comment.

    If anyone read the Philly papers today, JO and CWebb had a good communication aft last nights game and he said they both are fine and understand each other better now. [​IMG]
     
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    Instead of thinking in terms of Webber's supposed statements meaning that he just wants the season to be over so he can "go home", it is possible that he wants to be able to get a full off-season and start with the new style. It's like going from high-school or college ball to being picked up on an urban pick-up game. Do you know how often you'd be left there saying "that's not fundamental" or "that is supposed to be a foul". Or vice versa, being bored by the "Vanilla" gameplay with no flash. Being called for carries and constantly being picked while defending your player. Without the ability to start out with those rules, it'd be hard to adapt on the fly. It's kinda funny though, Webber's statements about playing like surburban kids came true, but without the team he was used to. Add in the fact that he had the ability to tie the game against his ex-team and failed really leaves a hole in the pit of his stomach.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes I have seen Webber, I've actually had dinner with Webber a couple times, and he's not a very friendly guy. He is very intellectual, and loves basketball, I'll give him that. However, when he was drafted by the Warriors he refused to sign any Warrior fan jerseys of him, he would only sign Michigan gear. If you've followed his career you'll find plenty of articles about his displeasure with other teams. I never said he would not get along with Iverson. I'm sure they get along already, but to hear him say he's "unhappy" about being on a new team is just typical Chris Webber behavior.</div>

    That must be pretty sweet to have dinner with an NBA player, very cool Shape...

    On the topic, Webber isn't really unhappy about the teammates more so about Jim O'Brien, you saw Webber sit for 12 minutes in a row in a game and he was making hand gestures and said after he hasn?t sat for so long in his life so that is obviously a sign that he doesn't like what O'Brien is doing with the team. Also I recall somebody saying (not sure if it is true) that O'Brien doesn't know a thing about defense. If that is true it just looks like the team lost confidence.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting holyace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">keeps going on and on..

    that's just a bunch of bs man. have you seen webber, he usually has the biggest smile on. i'm sure webber and AI are going to get along fine, just needs time to adjust to each other or cwebb to adjust to AI. i think it's going to be a great combo (don't care what the critics say) and they are going to make noise in the playoffs. hopefully they can take down the heat tonight, very, very tall order, but if they win, then the sixers can be..contendors?

    </div>

    nah man....i totally agree with shape. webber has a history of being a malcontent. if you've followed his career, you'd know that. i dont know how you can refute that.

    sure he was happy for a few years in sacto...but that was pretty much the first time in his nba career, and it didnt even last.

    this certainly doesnt come as any surprise to me. everyone seemed to be raving about the idea of AI getting a legit big man/superstar to play with, but webber is on his last leg (no pun intended [​IMG]) and demands the ball quite a bit himself. kind of a wierd mix. AI needs to learn to deffer a bit...webber needs to learn how not to be a big baby
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post"> everyone seemed to be raving about the idea of AI getting a legit big man/superstar to play with...</div>

    That is one thing that I wondered about with the deal. It's cool to give A.I. some help, but it needs to be known that the help is for A.I. and not Webber. Webber needs to ball in his hand and wants to distribute and have the "O" run through him. This has been the case in Sacto. I don't believe that Webber has ever been a second option. You can see it if you watch his games. He goes to the "elbow" and establishes position and is ready for the entry pass. He sets a couple picks here and there, but you know what I mean. I wondered who would be a great addition (meaning an outstanding role player who knows his job) for the 76'ers would be. Horry or "The Man-Beast" Amare. A dream team member for A.I. would be Garnett. The man who has been shunned for his unselfishness and doesn't need the ball in his hands all of the time would be awesome.
    ......Sorry, just daydreaming again.
     

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