Knicks eyeing Larry Hughes and Kwame Brown: Article

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Thomas for Brown would not be a close enough salary match and Thomas is way overpaid. Kwame ate his way out of PF,he's got C bulk now but the quickness is gone. The Wiz would be smart to take a good deal for Kwame,but T Thomas won't get you a round 2 pick.</div>
A couple of throw ins on Washington's side could work out. Tim Thomas' has a huge expiring contract and can give you a good player. Thomas can't give you a round 2 pick??? I don't know, I'm sure if Dale Davis can be traded for Baron Davis, maybe Tim Thomas can give you a little more than a second rounder. I think so at least.

 

kwame brown would be a fairly good addition if u work out a deal... as for a larry, i'd love to see him with the knicks... maybe wiz can work a sign-and-trade involving hughes and crawford nd other scrubs from both teams...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting giftedvisionz:</div><div class="quote_post">kwame brown would be a fairly good addition if u work out a deal... as for a larry, i'd love to see him with the knicks... maybe wiz can work a sign-and-trade involving hughes and crawford nd other scrubs from both teams...</div>

Hold on there. Let's be serious. Larry Hughes is not coming to the Knicks. He's just not. Maybe years from now when he's way past his prime and ridiculously overpaid we'll probably work something out to get him. But this season...nope. The Wizards are going to sign him to a nice, long, plump contract.

Brown we can probably have. TT's an expiring contract and would be a good back up small forward, we can surely work out a sign and trade with the Wizards for Brown. Maybe they'd have to throw in some fillers but we should be able to get him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Well Penny and Tim Thomas' expiring contracts are good trade bait. I don't think we'll do that because those contracts aren't worth the Hughes and/or Brown imo.</div>
Yea, but then the Wizards need expiring contracts why? So yea like you said, they aren't worth them, but the Wizard also don't really need expiring contracts because all the big contracts they have are on players they want.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, but then the Wizards need expiring contracts why? So yea like you said, they aren't worth them, but the Wizard also don't really need expiring contracts because all the big contracts they have are on players they want.</div>
Hughes isn't locked up.

 

I think og15 knows that.

There's little to no chance that Hughes will end up in NY. The Wizards already have their core, and don't need to complete a sign and trade with the Knicks because they really don't have any attractable players (to the Wizards). Plus, whatever contract Hughes wants, he might get from the Wizards, who are his obvious first option. Washington won't make a sign and trade with Hughes to NY unless it improves their team, which isn't likely. Expiring contracts won't do them much good, because like ogie said, all of the big contracts they have, are for players the Wizards want (Arenas, Jamison, Haywood).

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I think og15 knows that.

There's little to no chance that Hughes will end up in NY. The Wizards already have their core, and don't need to complete a sign and trade with the Knicks because they really don't have any attractable players (to the Wizards). Plus, whatever contract Hughes wants, he might get from the Wizards, who are his obvious first option. Washington won't make a sign and trade with Hughes to NY unless it improves their team, which isn't likely. Expiring contracts won't do them much good, because like ogie said, all of the big contracts they have, are for players the Wizards want (Arenas, Jamison, Haywood).</div>
I know there's little chance that Hughes is coming to NY.

If we want Kwame, I think any expiring contract will be somewhat interesting especially if it's 14 million.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, but then the Wizards need expiring contracts why? So yea like you said, they aren't worth them, but the Wizard also don't really need expiring contracts because all the big contracts they have are on players they want.</div>

Well maybe they dont need expiring contracts but TT would be a good backup. And his contract will expire at the end of the season so if the Wizards dont want him they can just let him walk.

 

I don't know if Kwame could be gotten for an expiring contract, because the Wizards do like Kwame, but also neither team would be under the cap with the trade, so the contracts would have to be between 115%, and the Wizards don't have any bad big contracts.

Jamison - $13.8 million
Arenas - $10.2 million
Hughes and Kwame - FA's
Etan - $5.4 million
Haywood - $4.0 million

So what I'm saying is I don't think you guys are thinking it through. First of all, I don't see why the Wizards would trade Kwame to the Knicks for a $14 million expiring contract, because Kwame would start at about let's just say $7 million [probably more like 6.5], that would mean the Wizards have to add $5 million more to make the trade work under trade rules. The Wizards don't have any player they don't want that makes that much [$5+ million] as you can see from what I posted. The 2 other Wizards are Jared Jefferies and Hayes who both make $2 million, and everyone else is expiring.

That means the Wizards would have to do Kwame and Etan for Tim Thomas, Kwame, Haywood and Hayes for Tim Thomas, or Kwame, Haywood and Jeffries for Tim Thomas, so anyone that thinks those trades make any sense please stand up.

So first of all the trade can't even work cap wise one on one, but if it could magically work with just Kwame and Tim Thomas, it still wouldn't make sense for the Wizards because the Knicks first of all can't offer Kwame a contract over MLE because of their cap situation, so that means the Wizards would be the ones going out and proposing or agreeing to a trade of Kwame for Tim Thomas for some reason.

So the trade actually doesn't give the Wizards anything, all it does is save them the amount Kwame would make. If they wanted to save that money, they could just not sign Kwame, and they also wouldn't have to pay an extra $7 million for Tim Thomas one year service which won't help the Wizards at all because they don't need him. Also if they wanted to trade Kwame, they could get much better, they could get another young player + even a draft pick for him. The Wizards could work something like Kwame to the Hawks for Boris Diaw and a future 1st since the Hawks would still be under the cap.

I hope you guys understand....