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    Who do you think is and are the best players in the game.

    Here is my list of the best players in the game

    Rashuan McCants, Jr. G/F 6'4, 207 North Carolina
    15.8 PPG .49 FG% .397 3PT FG% .74 FT% 3.1 RGP 2.8 APG

    Shelden Williams, Jr. F 6'9 250, Duke
    15.8 PPG 60 FG% 69 FT% 11.1 RPG 102 Total Blocks 37 Total Steals

    Julius Hodge, Sr. F/G North Carolina State
    15.6 PPG 44 FG% 68 FT% 7.0 RPG 69 Total Assists 21 Total Steals

    Felton, Raymond Jr PG, North Carolina
    12 PPG 47 FG% 44 3PT FG% .68 FT% 4 RPG 7.3 ASP 63 Total Steals

    Sean May Jr PF/C 6'9 266
    16.7 PPG, 55 FG% FT% 10.9 RPG 1.7 APG 36 Blocks 29 Steals

    J.J. Reddick, Jr. G, Duke
    37.0 MPG 22.6 PPG .42 FG% 42 3PT FG% 93 FT% 3.1 RPG 32 Total Steals

    Best Underrated Player
    Bo McCalebb, Sophmore, New Orleans
    22.6 PPG(5th in the nation), 4.3 RPG, 3.7 AST, 1.8 SPG

    This is not a definite list, but just an opinion
     
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    Those are some solid choices, but the top two have to be Andrew Bogut from Utah and Chris Paul from Wake Forest.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Show:</div><div class="quote_post">Who do you think is and are the best players in the game.

    Here is my list of the best players in the game

    Rashuan McCants, Jr. G/F 6'4, 207 North Carolina
    15.8 PPG .49 FG% .397 3PT FG% .74 FT% 3.1 RGP 2.8 APG

    Shelden Williams, Jr. F 6'9 250, Duke
    15.8 PPG 60 FG% 69 FT% 11.1 RPG 102 Total Blocks 37 Total Steals

    Julius Hodge, Sr. F/G North Carolina State
    15.6 PPG 44 FG% 68 FT% 7.0 RPG 69 Total Assists 21 Total Steals

    Felton, Raymond Jr PG, North Carolina
    12 PPG 47 FG% 44 3PT FG% .68 FT% 4 RPG 7.3 ASP 63 Total Steals

    Sean May Jr PF/C 6'9 266
    16.7 PPG, 55 FG% FT% 10.9 RPG 1.7 APG 36 Blocks 29 Steals

    J.J. Reddick, Jr. G, Duke
    37.0 MPG 22.6 PPG .42 FG% 42 3PT FG% 93 FT% 3.1 RPG 32 Total Steals

    Best Underrated Player
    Bo McCalebb, Sophmore, New Orleans
    22.6 PPG(5th in the nation), 4.3 RPG, 3.7 AST, 1.8 SPG

    This is not a definite list, but just an opinion</div>You need some more ACC players on that list! [​IMG]
     
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    IMO the best player in college is Sean May. He dominates down low, rebounds extremelly well, can shoot the 15 foot jump shot and is a good passer. He also plays solid defense. There's nothing more valuable than a Big Man that dominates on both ends of the floor.
     
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    How can it not be Andrew Bogut? Bogut is not only the best center in the nation but the best player in the nation. I've heard people argue that it's because he's from a decent conference, nothing compared to the ACC or the Big East, but still, does Bogut put up the numbers? Yeah he does. It's going to be Bogut winning the award for nations best player or Chris Paul from Wake Forest. I believe those two are above all others.

    And obviously it seems as though, The Show, watches very little basketball outside of the ACC is every player he mentioned being the best player in the nation is from the ACC.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AA13:</div><div class="quote_post">IMO the best player in college is Sean May. He dominates down low, rebounds extremelly well, can shoot the 15 foot jump shot and is a good passer. He also plays solid defense. There's nothing more valuable than a Big Man that dominates on both ends of the floor.</div>I think May benefits from playing with 3 potential lottery picks. May is a good player, but I don't think he can do more on the court than Bogut. He's a beast inside, but he also gives up a lot of points to the opposing team. He does step for the big matchups, which is another plus for May, but I'm not sure he would have the same success if you swapped him with Bogut and put him on Utah.
     
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    How can u rate Bogut as the best player in the nation? WHO DID UTAH PLAY? They played two ranked teams (Washington and Arizona)...losses! The guy is a sophomore so he wont get it...he couldnt survive against Sean May or Shelden Williams, if u think he can, call up Utah and tell them to play an ACC team and we'll see which big man prevails...Against 'Zona Frye had 19, who guarded him? I wonder...Bass had 18 against them...Bogut isnt ready to be a POY so just leave him where he is and see how he develops in the next couple years...
     
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    Daryll Hill for sure!

    No seriously, I think that's too hard of a question. I think they're too many players to name for me to just single out one as being the best.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JayManHawk15:</div><div class="quote_post">How can u rate Bogut as the best player in the nation? WHO DID UTAH PLAY? They played two ranked teams (Washington and Arizona)...losses! The guy is a sophomore so he wont get it...he couldnt survive against Sean May or Shelden Williams, if u think he can, call up Utah and tell them to play an ACC team and we'll see which big man prevails...Against 'Zona Frye had 19, who guarded him? I wonder...Bass had 18 against them...Bogut isnt ready to be a POY so just leave him where he is and see how he develops in the next couple years...</div>Who would be your choice then?

    You mentioned Frye had 19 points, but you failed to mention what Bogut did to him ... 20/10 and 8 for 10 from the field.

    Bogut is shooting OVER 60% from the field this year as a Sophmore. The RPI and SOS are not as far apart as you make it out to be either. It's not Bogut's fault he's not in the ACC, and if he was he would have no problem handling May or Shelden Williams. He took Tim Duncan on in the Olympics and had his way with him as a Freshman.

    At Washington he was 8-8 from the field and finished with 23/12.

    Believe May benefits by being surrounded by Felton, McCants, and Marvin Williams. He rarely sees double teams, never sees a triple team, with Bogut he faces that every game and still dominates.
     
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    20/10 and 19/10 have no big differences if u ask me...Bogut is a turn and shoot guy, he's not a banger like May or Williams...they both overpower him by much and May wont see a double team with the guys that are in the ACC unless its Clemson...Bogut lacks an outside shot(imo) hes an around the rim guy
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JayManHawk15:</div><div class="quote_post">20/10 and 19/10 have no big differences if u ask me...Bogut is a turn and shoot guy, he's not a banger like May or Williams...they both overpower him by much and May wont see a double team with the guys that are in the ACC unless its Clemson...Bogut lacks an outside shot(imo) hes an around the rim guy</div>
    Well it obviously impressed you enough to bring up Frye's stats, so at least tell the whole picture. Bogut shot 80% in that match-up, Frye shot 58%. Does that make a difference to you?

    Not a banger? Nothing could be further than the truth. Bogut is agressive as hell inside, and you're right he is an around the rim guy, that's what you want from a 7 footer though isn't it?

    What makes you think Bogut can't shoot from the outside? Because he never does it? That's because he's on the inside pounding away and getting to the line.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"He's a young Vlade Divac," the exec said. "He passes like him andshoots like him. He's tailor-made for the NBA." </div>

    Bogut led Australia to a Gold Medal.

    May won't see a double team, because teams are more worried about NC's perimeter players. He's not even the best player on the Tar Heels, how can he be POY?
     
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    I think there is a reason why many are projecting Bogut to have a much higher pick (probably first) than Frye.
     
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    best baller

    best player in college basketball is Bogut followed closely by J.J. Reddick. Dont disagree with JJ as the second best player because you hate him for being on duke. The fact is that he is the best shooter in who knows when, he has become a good slasher and is able to pick up the foul, and he has become a great defender. He has unlimited range too.He is shooting 93.7% from the line and hes led an overachieving duke team that is one of the least talented duke teams in years.
     
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    I don't know much about this Bogut guy, but I think anyone from the ACC is a good choice for Player of the Year. JJ Reddick, Shelden Williams, Sean May, Rashad McCants, Raymond Felton. These are all valid choices. I don't see how you could disagree with them.
     
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    It's definitely Bogut...but if we're going to throw around names like Shelden Williams and Sean May then we need to bring up guys like Ronny Turiaf and Wayne Simien. Those players are all on the same level to me...very good and have a future in the NBA but are not close to Bogut who should be a star in the NBA.
     
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    I think in the end it will come down between Redick and Bogut. They both respectively lead their teams, although Bogut has a lot less talent.

    There are other great players as well. McCants, Hodge, Paul, May, Williams, and Simien.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure:</div><div class="quote_post"> They both respectively lead their teams, although Bogut has a lot less talent.</div>

    I'd be interested to see you justify this.

    Both complete opposites of eachother I agree, but how you can say Reddick has a lot more talent baffles me.
     
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    Sorry Supersonic, I wrote the post wrong. You read it as me saying Redick has more talent then Bogut.

    What I meant to say was Redick has a lot more to work with, meaning he plays for Duke. Bogut is pretty much the lone star on Utah.

    I just forgot to add "to work with."

    My bad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Original:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know much about this Bogut guy, but I think anyone from the ACC is a good choice for Player of the Year. JJ Reddick, Shelden Williams, Sean May, Rashad McCants, Raymond Felton. These are all valid choices. I don't see how you could disagree with them.</div>
    How can you say this? saying that may, McCants and felton are candidates for POY?McCants isnt even a top 20 player in the NCAA this year!! None of them are even worthy of all-NCAA first team. If you have watched duke play you couldnt possibly argue for shelden over redick. redick is the glue that holds that team together and comes through in the clutch
     
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    I haven't seen Bogut play ever, so i can't say he is, or isn't the player of the year. But, with everyone throwing out pretty much everyone in the ACC i think you should add a big east player to the mix: Hakim Warrick. He plays great, and is putting up numbers this year. He has improved each season at syracuse and is a phenomenal talent.
     
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