Our starting PF

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  1. B.e.

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    This is a tough one. Right now the starting spot could really go to whoever plays the best in practice. They should have kept Mo Taylor then if healthy he could be a reliable option at the PF spot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">This is a tough one. Right now the starting spot could really go to whoever plays the best in practice. They should have kept Mo Taylor then if healthy he could be a reliable option at the PF spot.</div>
    Please, I'd have started Earl Boykins over Mo Taylor if that's what it took. I would probably bet that Earl would get more rebounds than Mo too. You probably are basing Taylor on what you saw last season, and I have to admit, I liked his energy and scoring spurts off the bench last season too. This season though, he was nothing but a waste of roster space. Jeff's experiment of starting him earlier didn't work, as he proved to be a lazy, ball-hogging disgrace, getting about three boards a game, taking a 20-footer with 16 seconds left on the shot clock, and defending as if he was in first grade. Good riddance.
     
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    Whoa, didn't know Mo so disliked around here. He seems pretty decent with us in NY. Tough one for Houston though. The key to the deal was a second rounder and that's it. They are in somewhat of a situation here which can be even more critical in the playoffs. Any free agents you can give a ten day contract or something to?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa, didn't know Mo so disliked around here. He seems pretty decent with us in NY. Tough one for Houston though. The key to the deal was a second rounder and that's it. They are in somewhat of a situation here which can be even more critical in the playoffs. Any free agents you can give a ten day contract or something to?</div>

    Mo Taylor was not a good fit for the Rockets because he was not a team player, and like Trip said he, was ball-hoggish; it just didnt work in our system. He seems to be a good fit for the Knicks and their system, but not ours. Mo Taylor was also not worht keeping around for his ugly contract, that could of handcuffed this organization if he was around for much longer. Aquiring James and getting rid of Taylor were important for our playoff run, and i would not take it back even in our current state. As for the ten day contract remark, thats as helpful as Isiah Thomas has been for the Knicks, not very.
     
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    Never liked Mo, was real glad when we offloaded his contract... apparently he was a good player once, before his major injury... good luck to him in his next team.
     
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    wow this can hurt the rockets bad but i think scott padgett will start
     
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    I think Mo actually has what it takes to be a decent PF, its just that his mentality towards the game.. Instead of fighting down low getting a rebound, he always took a difficult shot from baseline, most of the time with fadeaway jump... man, he thinks he's MJ..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa, didn't know Mo so disliked around here. He seems pretty decent with us in NY. Tough one for Houston though. The key to the deal was a second rounder and that's it. They are in somewhat of a situation here which can be even more critical in the playoffs. Any free agents you can give a ten day contract or something to?</div>
    We did the deal to dump Mo's contract. Baker and Norris's contracts are all less than Mo's and run out a couple of years in advance. The pick was just thrown in to balance the trade. To see how much no one here liked Mo, some posters in this forum supported the trade even when it was misreported by ESPN that we'd thrown in a first rounder as well. Some didn't even mind giving up a first round pick to get rid of Mo Taylor.

    At first sight, you'd love Mo Taylor. He has great ballhandling skills for a big man, can shoot jumpers, and can go in the post when you need him to. He's also good for at least one charge a game. However, scoring is basically all Mo can do. He's a weak defender, bad rebounder and didn't play within the team concept. He can give you 20ppg if needed, but would only get you 6rpg when averaging 35 minutes. Inconsistency has always been bugging him as well. I have no doubt that he would be another Tim Thomas to you Knicks fans by the end of the season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting T-Clutch-Mac:</div><div class="quote_post">Mo Taylor was not a good fit for the Rockets because he was not a team player, and like Trip said he, was ball-hoggish; it just didnt work in our system. He seems to be a good fit for the Knicks and their system, but not ours. Mo Taylor was also not worht keeping around for his ugly contract, that could of handcuffed this organization if he was around for much longer. Aquiring James and getting rid of Taylor were important for our playoff run, and i would not take it back even in our current state. As for the ten day contract remark, thats as helpful as Isiah Thomas has been for the Knicks, not very.</div>
    All I said was I didn't know Mo was so disliked around here. I don't know what the purpose or the relevance of your weak attempt to try and knock the Knicks was about, so I wont comment on it. When you are down due to injuries and down to your last players at the 4, I think any solid FA can become a decent backup for the Rockets. What do they have to lose? He's on a 10 day contract and if they don't like him, they can easily get rid of him.
     
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    Not everyone dislikes Mo. I mean i like the guy but his game was at an all-time low this year. He isnt good defensivly so the only way he could stay in the line up was to score but his scoring wasnt so great either. So im happy he got traded because now hes in a place where he will get some playing time and it now gives us more cap space for future contracts.

    You may not remember this from all the negativity hes receive this year but he actually played well last year averaging 11.5 ppg and 5.1 rpg off the bench.

    He even has his own program, the "Mo Betta Bunch" which gave underprivileged kids tickets to games. So atleast he used some of his big contract money for something good.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post">Not everyone dislikes Mo. I mean i like the guy but his game was at an all-time low this year. He isnt good defensivly so the only way he could stay in the line up was to score but his scoring wasnt so great either. So im happy he got traded because now hes in a place where he will get some playing time and it now gives us more cap space for future contracts.

    You may not remember this from all the negativity hes receive this year but he actually played well last year averaging 11.5 ppg and 5.1 rpg off the bench.

    He even has his own program, the "Mo Betta Bunch" which gave underprivileged kids tickets to games. So atleast he used some of his big contract money for something good.</div>
    That's cool and I respect your thoughts and opinions on this post 100%. So they're utilizing Mo differently which is more to our benefit and it was just the opposite with you. I'm glad you're not trying to use cheapshots to get across your points.
     
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    So it looks like they're probably gonna sign a free agent power forward. Anybody have any ideas on who's available or who you'd like to see them get? And don't say Karl Malone.
     
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    Just checking our Mo Taylors boxscore as a Knick, he hasn't played too bad has he? my opinion on him is mixed, he was kind of a fun player to watch, when he did get a good shooting game going it was awesome, but after the game when you check the boxscore there are lots of things he didn't do, then you watch the game for a second time, you notice all those things and it isn't as fun to watch him. Also its great to hear about that foundation he opened up, I had no idea, good on him, he seems like a pretty nice guy...

    Onto the actual topic though, the game against Portland, I believe it was Clarence Weatherspoon that started, he only played 18 minutes but got into foul trouble (4fouls) but did have 4 rebounds...
     
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    Ask any Rockets fan, and they'll tell you they hate Mo Taylor (as a palyer not a person) this year. Previous years are a different story, but he was probably the number one reason why we played poorly in the early stages of this season. Of course, there are other reasons too, but this one and maybe the PG situation we had were the two main factors.

    It was just mentioned in the "Juwon's Injury" thread that the Houston Chronicle has reported that the Rockets are looking to sign Corie Blount or James Thomas.

    I know a little about Blount, but know absolutely nothing about Thomas.

    Blount is a vet who's been around the league. I guess the experience may help but I couldn't see him doing any better than Spoon or Padgett.
     
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    there is no way in hell that I'd take Mo Taylor back......uhuh!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">All I said was I didn't know Mo was so disliked around here. I don't know what the purpose or the relevance of your weak attempt to try and knock the Knicks was about, so I wont comment on it. When you are down due to injuries and down to your last players at the 4, I think any solid FA can become a decent backup for the Rockets. What do they have to lose? He's on a 10 day contract and if they don't like him, they can easily get rid of him.</div>

    hmmm, i took your comment at the end of your origional post as a shot at the rockets, like signing a ten day contract is something we do often that we think helps, but i guess i misunderstood. So, plz, exuse my weak attempt to knock the knicks.
     
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    Community work doesn't mean much when you play bad on the court. I mean, even Ryan Bowen has his own foundation. As for Mo, he actually used to be my second favorite Rocket at one point last season, but this season, he was a pure disappointment. I liked his bench production last season, but this season he has been nothing but what was said of him. He's a bad player, no doubt.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting T-Clutch-Mac:</div><div class="quote_post">hmmm, i took your comment at the end of your origional post as a shot at the rockets, like signing a ten day contract is something we do often that we think helps, but i guess i misunderstood. So, plz, exuse my weak attempt to knock the knicks.</div>
    How was that a shot against the Rockets? It wasn't meant to be funny at all. When you the injury bug hits you and you're severly limited at a specific position, what's so bad about signing a back up free agent to a 10 day contract? You have absolutely no risks invovled at all and it's for 10 days. Someone else suggested it as well.
     
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    If we sign someone on a 10-day, it means we would have to waive someone, so I can see why we've been reluctant to do so. Waiving Barrett wouldn't be wise and he's still young and full of potential, but waiving Norris or Baker would mean we would have to pay out their contracts all at once, which won't be a great deal financially as well. A James Thomas or Corie Blount would be a good replacement, but would 10 days of possible relief be worth giving up potential or somewhere near $10 million?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">If we sign someone on a 10-day, it means we would have to waive someone, so I can see why we've been reluctant to do so. Waiving Barrett wouldn't be wise and he's still young and full of potential, but waiving Norris or Baker would mean we would have to pay out their contracts all at once, which won't be a great deal financially as well. A James Thomas or Corie Blount would be a good replacement, but would 10 days of possible relief be worth giving up potential or somewhere near $10 million?</div>
    I didn't even know their roster was full. But why couldn't you waive Baker or Norris. Baker = totally ineffective. Norris is good, but with all of the PG's, he probably wont get any minutes at all and right now he's on the injured list. So basically you're paying players who are riding your injury list and your bench and probably will only get garbage minutes. I don't see what the risk is in letting them go. That will give you a chance to sign someone decent and someone who will actually help the team. A yonug player who you can also work with as the years go by is good too.
     

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