<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">Was Ricky Davis trash talkin to Milt at the end of the game? I swear i'll kick his ass if he was.</div> Sure looked like. There seemed to be a lot of it this game. Better get out the ***** kickers
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">Was Ricky Davis trash talkin to Milt at the end of the game? I swear i'll kick his ass if he was.</div> Yea he was...Ricky Davis is a headcase. If I was Milt, I would've just layed him out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea he was...Ricky Davis is a headcase. If I was Milt, I would've just layed him out.</div>Yeah, Ricky Davis is the first player in NBA history to trash talk. What a headcase.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Ricky Davis is the first player in NBA history to trash talk. What a headcase. </div> I wasn't basing my comments on that one incident . Did I say "Ricky Davis is a headcase because he trashtalks?" No. GP trash talks, Jalen trash talks, many players trash talk, but that doesn't make them headcases. There's obvious reasons for why Ricky is one, and he's just adding to his reputation.
Anybody who blames it on Sam, is a stubbern-ass, bonehead, puckhead who doesn't know **** about ball. I thought it was better that Sam didn't call the timeout. With 5 Seconds remaining, you don't call a timeout and let the defence reset. The ball just didn't end up in one of our best players. And what's up with the Boston fans, you could hear a pen drop in the first half, they were so damn quite.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">There's obvious reasons for why Ricky is one, and he's just adding to his reputation.</div>Ok list them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok list them.</div> Obvious Reasons for why Ricky Davis is a headcase: I'm not even gonna mention the Triple Double Incident (except for this part). His big ego that leads to him doing stupid things such as taunting to the extreme. That's what seperates him from others. Yeah the list is good there. His constant, stupid taunting incidents through the past 7 seasons. Who know's what goes on inthe locker rooms and outside of the court...The guy is very talented. A talented player like him get bounced from team to team around for a reason.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Obvious Reasons for why Ricky Davis is a headcase: I'm not even gonna mention the Triple Double Incident (except for this part). His big ego that leads to him doing stupid things such as taunting to the extreme. That's what seperates him from others. Yeah the list is good there. His constant, stupid taunting incidents through the past 7 seasons.</div> Alright, so you managed to compile two paragraphs, yet mention only one specific incident. Based on your criteria, a good amount of the NBA's players are headcases. It's called gamesmanship, it's part of competition at any level. Part of the game is to get inside the head of your opponent. If Ricky can go as far as to get inside the head of the opposing team's fans, then he's doing a fine job of it. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Who know's what goes on inthe locker rooms and outside of the court...The guy is very talented. A talented player like him get bounced from team to team around for a reason.</div>One reason may be that he was a victim of circumstance. If you look at deals that he was involved in, then you'd know that teams weren't just trading him to get rid of him. In 2000, he was involved in a deal that sent the likes of Jamal Mashburn, Eddie Jones, PJ Brown, Anthony Mason, and Dale Ellis to different teams. Let's just say that he wasn't a major part of that deal, but probably just thrown in to match salaries. In 2001, the Cavs were in need of a scorer, and liked what they saw in Davis. The proof is in the minutes. He went from 70 total minutes with the Heat to 1, 954 for the Cavs the next year. In 2003, Danny Ainge was looking for quick athletic players, and the Cavs were looking for veteran role players. They made the deal that sent Davis to Boston. Sure, Ricky was unhappy about LeBron being the number one option in Cleveland, and that contributed to the deal, but you can't tell me that he's the only person that would be upset about an 18 year old kid taking over his job.
Jalen Rose was hilarious tonight..... the fans absolutely hated him w/ all the taunting he was doing. Gotta love the guy. Exciting game but too bad we couldn't steal a win over there. I saw the replay of the final shot and it did look like Milt got fouled but oh well, I'd be surprised if we were to ever get a call like that on road. And it wouldn't have matter anyways cuz he would've just missed that layup even if he wasn't fouled (no offense to all the Milt fanatics of course). <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Ricky Davis is the first player in NBA history to trash talk. What a headcase. </div>Did you actually see him trash talking to Milt? Davis was right in Milt's face yapping away after he missed the final shot and the game was already over. It's one thing to trash talk during the game, but doing it after the game to the guy who missed the potential game winning shot is just bad sportsmanship...... unless of course, Davis was just having a casual conversation w/ Milt, then all is okay
Haven't seen Jalen dunk like that in a long time, let alone 3 times. Bad decision on Milt's part to take it to the basket. All the Celtic defenders were right there waiting for him. He should've kicked it out to Jalen or something who was wide open and was hitting everything all night. BTW, I know GP likes to go at people with his trashtalk and stuff but it was a really poor decision to go back at Rafer with like 30s left and the game on the line just because Rafer had just hit a jumper against him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> BOSTON (AP) - The Boston Celtics taunted Jalen Rose early, and Ricky Davis got on Milt Palacio when it was over. Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker each scored 24 points, and the Celtics nearly blew a 16-point fourth-quarter lead before pulling out a 110-109 win over the Toronto Raptors on Wednesday night. The victory was the fifth straight for the Atlantic Division-leading Celtics and their ninth in 10 games since acquiring Walker from Atlanta on Feb. 24. A few players on Boston's bench were teasing Rose after Pierce nailed a jumper and was fouled on Boston's first possession of the game, saying "He's going to foul you out." After Pierce missed a jumper in the closing seconds, the Raptors came down for the final shot without calling timeout. Palacio's drive bounced off the backboard, and the buzzer sounded </div> Source I missed the game but watched the highlights Looks to me that the Raptors patented 3rd quarter collapse was in effect. But we were just setting them up for our patented 4th quarter comeback...which came a little short. BTW It looked like Palacio was fouled on the play but it could have gone either way. I don't think the refs would really call something that late in the game unless it was flagrant and obvious. Oh well....one more win towards a better draft pick.
Yay MILT for MVP!!!! But WTF was he thinking?? He had Donyell in the corner and Jalen right behind him. Those two would have knocked the shot down with a clean look. Milt had 3-4 white shirts coming at him and he tried to be the hero. Good job. I think seeing Bosh go down hard and getting injured really inspired the Raps to make a comeback. Lets just hope his back isnt seriously bruised that he wont be able to play the next few games. How about Jalen..he played probably his best game as a Raptor last night. He had that swagger and aggresiveness going on all night and he was even taunting the fans. Gotta love it! But in the end..too bad we lost.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Alright, so you managed to compile two paragraphs, yet mention only one specific incident. Based on your criteria, a good amount of the NBA's players are headcases. It's called gamesmanship, it's part of competition at any level. Part of the game is to get inside the head of your opponent. If Ricky can go as far as to get inside the head of the opposing team's fans, then he's doing a fine job of it. </div> I'm not listing specific incidents, I'm listing the obvious. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">One reason may be that he was a victim of circumstance. If you look at deals that he was involved in, then you'd know that teams weren't just trading him to get rid of him.</div> However, he was not a valuable assest to them despite his great talent. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In 2000, he was involved in a deal that sent the likes of Jamal Mashburn, Eddie Jones, PJ Brown, Anthony Mason, and Dale Ellis to different teams. Let's just say that he wasn't a major part of that deal, but probably just thrown in to match salaries. </div> Just thrown in to match salaries? He had major talent back then too. You just do not throw someone with talent like that in a deal to match salaries. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In 2001, the Cavs were in need of a scorer, and liked what they saw in Davis. The proof is in the minutes. He went from 70 total minutes with the Heat to 1, 954 for the Cavs the next year. </div> In Heat land, they already had to proven guards logging big minutes and suitable backups. Ricky Davis then was still a 21 year old player looking to get minutes, but the team did not have a chance to play him, since they were a competetive team, similar to Dorrell Wright this year with the Heat. However, Ricky Davis had already spent a few years in the L, and was better talent wise than the vets (Bowen, Marjle) that backed up EJ and Tim. He was still at the maturing stage, however a decrease in minutes at age 21 do not go down like that. You would think with that kind of talent and young age to go with his developement, that he would get more minutes...Especially more minutes than Eddie House...but who knows what was going on with him back then. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In 2003, Danny Ainge was looking for quick athletic players, and the Cavs were looking for veteran role players. They made the deal that sent Davis to Boston. Sure, Ricky was unhappy about LeBron being the number one option in Cleveland, and that contributed to the deal, but you can't tell me that he's the only person that would be upset about an 18 year old kid taking over his job.</div> Ricky Davis should of realized that he's not going to be the star of the team. He had his chance to prove himself a year prior to that, with the same team as LeBron had (at that point), and they ended with 18 wins? After a season like that, you know there's going to be changing, and his role is going to be smaller with someonelike LeBron coming in. He already showed he's very capable of being a good player and offensive threat, but it wasn't working with him being the number 1 or 2 option. Many would be happy to have a young player like LeBron come in and help the team win, even if they're better than them. Ricky just didn't like it for whatever reason.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not listing specific incidents, I'm listing the obvious.</div> Oh, sorry. But that's sort of what I was looking for when I asked.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">talent....major talent......talent.....better talent wise.....that kind of talent.....</div>Seriously, every single player that is in the league is talented. You're trying to spin the fact that he's talented into a negative, when the league is full of players who can contribute and don't get minutes. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Ricky Davis should of realized that he's not going to be the star of the team. He had his chance to prove himself a year prior to that, with the same team as LeBron had (at that point), and they ended with 18 wins? After a season like that, you know there's going to be changing, and his role is going to be smaller with someonelike LeBron coming in. He already showed he's very capable of being a good player and offensive threat, but it wasn't working with him being the number 1 or 2 option. Many would be happy to have a young player like LeBron come in and help the team win, even if they're better than them. Ricky just didn't like it for whatever reason.</div>I don't know how Ricky was supposed to know that LeBron was going to be as good as he is. The Cavs were 6-17 when Davis was traded, and LeBron wasn't the high scorer in any of the six wins. He also didn't get along with Paul Silas at the time, something that a lot of players have done, including LeBron himself.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Oh, sorry. But that's sort of what I was looking for when I asked </div> Maybe you should of sort of said that then? I was listen the obvious reasons why he's considered a headcase. Not the events. Maybe if you were looking for an answer like that you should say "list the events" then. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, every single player that is in the league is talented. You're trying to spin the fact that he's talented into a negative, when the league is full of players who can contribute and don't get minutes. </div> Yes that's what exactly I'm trying to say. The fact that Ricky Davis is talented is con. Ok...Let me make it more clear. He's a player with lots of a talent. Talent few other players could compare with back in his earlier days, and now still. He should of gotten more minutes, just like 98% of young players whos experience are increasing, that possess the talent Ricky does.. Minutes just do not drop like that, especially with a roster that has Eddie House playing in front of him . <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know how Ricky was supposed to know that LeBron was going to be as good as he is. The Cavs were 6-17 when Davis was traded, and LeBron wasn't the high scorer in any of the six wins. He also didn't get along with Paul Silas at the time, something that a lot of players have done, including LeBron himself.</div> I don't think anybody predicted LeBron to be as good as he is/was that fast. However he would have a bigger idea because he faced him in practice everyday and saw how much talent he had. He also must of saw the maturity of LeBron as everyone else, which is another factor in being a very good player, quickly. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He also didn't get along with Paul Silas at the time</div> I wonder what Ricky Davis did to cause that issue...
Arg... I'm withdrawing my vote from the "Milt Palacio for MVP"...... It was smart to go to the rim, but you don't force it up like that with that many guys up there. On another note, did you see Gary Payton? I was laughing my ass off when he was going nuts talking to Rafer when the freethrows were being taken. That guy went absolutely nuts or something. Then Jalen Rose and Pierce went at it. That was pretty funny too, especially after those dunks. Gotta love Jalen's swagger on the court.
All I have to say is what was Milt Palacio thinking. You can't blame him though at least he was man enough to take the shot, but he was trying to hard to be the hero when he had to wide open players on the perimeter aside him
