Awards 04-05

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  1. pigpen

    pigpen JBB JustBBall Member

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    MVP - Shaquille O'Neal, i think. But steve nash is really playing well, can they make them co-mvps? hehe.
    Defensive player - Bruce Bowen
    Rookie - Ben Gordon
    Sixth man - Does manu still come off the bench? if not, i'll go with Ben Gordon.
    Most Improved Player - Bobby Simmons
     
  2. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    Most Valuable Player - I'm not sure on this one, right now probably Duncan. Steve Nash is playing like an MVP but he has been playing the same way in Dallas for a while and never got MVP recognition before so why now?

    Defensive Player of the Year - Ben Wallace

    Rookie of the Year - Emeka Okafor

    Sixth Man of the Year - Ben Gordon

    Most Improved Player - Kyle Korver

    Coach of the Year - Mike Fratello

    Biggest Disappointment - The Atlantic Divison

    Biggest Surprise - Phoenix Suns

    Comeback player of the year - Grant Hill

    Biggest player dissapointment - Darius Miles

    Biggest rookie surprise- Matt Bonner

    Biggest rookie dissapointment - Snyder
     
  3. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "authentiq":</div><div class="quote_post">Biggest Surprise - Washington Wizards</div>
    The funny thing is that many Wizards fans actually felt the Wizards were a playoff team, I predicted them to be in the top 6 in the East. That's why I have the Suns and Sonics as more of a surprise because I don't remember any Sonics fans talking about them being a top team in the league.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Coach of the Year - Nate Mac - Look what he did to the Sonics. They barely touched their roster from last year and yet they are the 3rd in the west. Give him props!</div>
    Are you discounting the impact of a Danny Fortson? Really though, I think it was all about their improvement inside, Evans rebounding, Fortson, Collins, Jermone James etc..


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Kobe8Ball":</div><div class="quote_post">Coach of the Year - Eddie Jordan - No bias here, I do not like Eddie Jordan, but he has turned the Wizards around in less than two years, something that people thought would take atleast 3. They are in contention for the 4th seed in the playoffs and homecourt in the first round.</div>
    Would you put Eddie Jordan over a Scott Skilers or Nate McMillan though, I don't think EJ has done enough of a job in the coaching sense to deserve it. The Wizards are very talented, and we've got 3 All-Star caliber players, while a team like the Bulls was so young, and no one expectd them to be able to mesh, and the Sonics just jumped out of nowhere.
     
  4. Bobcats

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    Most Valuable Player - A couple of weeks ago, I would've said Steve Nash easily. Now, Shaq has closened the gap. Either of those 2 is fine, as long as LeBron doesn't win it.

    Defensive Player of the Year - Ben Wallace

    Rookie of the Year - Emeka Okafor

    Sixth Man of the Year - Ben Gordon

    Most Improved Player -

    Coach of the Year - Nate McMillan

    Biggest Disappointment - Minnesota Timberwolves

    Biggest Surprise - Phoenix Suns/Seattle SuperSonics

    Comeback player of the year - Grant Hill (Do they still give this out?)

    Biggest rookie surprise- Matt Bonner

    Biggest rookie dissapointment - Rafael Araujo
     
  5. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you discounting the impact of a Danny Fortson? Really though, I think it was all about their improvement inside, Evans rebounding, Fortson, Collins, Jermone James etc..</div>
    Well they did get Fortson, but they also lost Brent Barry too!


    The Wizards were killed with injuries last year. When Stackhouse, Hughes, and Arenas were all healthy, they were a good team. While they're surprising, I think they are somewhat overrated because of their improved season.
     
  6. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">The funny thing is that many Wizards fans actually felt the Wizards were a playoff team, I predicted them to be in the top 6 in the East. That's why I have the Suns and Sonics as more of a surprise because I don't remember any Sonics fans talking about them being a top team in the league.</div>

    [​IMG] You can say that again, everyone thought I was crazy when I said Washington would be a top 6 east team this year.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Would you put Eddie Jordan over a Scott Skilers or Nate McMillan though, I don't think EJ has done enough of a job in the coaching sense to deserve it. The Wizards are very talented, and we've got 3 All-Star caliber players, while a team like the Bulls was so young, and no one expectd them to be able to mesh, and the Sonics just jumped out of nowhere.</div>

    I would put him over Nate McMillan honestly. Everyone had us struggling for the 8th seed, while we are fighting for the 4th and homecourt in the first round. I thought the Sonics would make the playoffs, but not be this good....you can make an arguement for all 3, so I guess I did have a little bias in there, but if it isn't Eddie, then it should def. be Skiles.
     
  7. Tracy1

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    MVP-LeBron,Nash,Wade
    Most Improved Player-Kirk Hinrich,Bobby Simmons
    Defensive Player-Tim Duncan
    Coach Of The Year-Stan Van Gundy
    ROY-Ben Gordon,Emeka Okafor
    Sixth Man-Radmanovic,Ben Gordon,
    Biggst Surprise-Suns
    Biggest Disapointment-Minesota
     
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    Most Valuable Player-Steve Nash. We all know what he has done to this young Pheonix team and they wouldn`t be at the level they`re at now if it wasn`t for him. He has showed great leadership throughout the season and will bring all of it into the playoffs.
    Defensive Player of the Year-Larry Hughes or Ben Wallace.
    Rookie of the Year-Emeka Okafor.
    Sixth Man of the Year-Tough call. Its either Ricky Davis or Ben Gordon.
    Most Improved Player-Bobby Simmons.
    Coach of the Year-McMillian or Van Gundy.
    Biggest Disappointment-Pacers.
    Biggest Suprise-Sonics.
     
  9. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Most Improved Player - Nazr Mohammed hands down! How is it Simmons over him?</div>

    I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but Nazr Mohammed "hands down"? I don't think so. Bobby Simmons and the likes of Kyle Korver should heavily be recognized, well at least over Mohammed. Mohammed spurt with the Spurs has shot down his chances at the MIP Award.

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    <font color="Navy">Most Valuable Player</font> - Steve Nash

    <font color="Navy">Defensive Player of the Year</font> - Tim Duncan

    <font color="Navy">Rookie of the Year</font> - Emeka Okafor

    <font color="Navy">Sixth Man of the Year</font> - Ricky Davis

    <font color="Navy">Most Improved Player</font> - Kyle Korver

    <font color="Navy">Coach Of The Year</font> - Nate McMillan

    <font color="Navy">Biggest Disappointment</font> - Minnesota Timberwolves

    <font color="Navy">Biggest Surprise</font> - Phoenix Suns/Seattle SuperSonics

    <font color="Navy">Comeback Player Of The Year</font> - Grant Hill

    <font color="Navy">Biggest Rookie Surprise</font> - Beno Udrich

    <font color="Navy">Biggest Rookie Dissapointment</font> - Rafael Araujo

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    <font color="Navy">All NBA Team</font>

    C- Shaquille O'Neal
    PF- Tim Duncan/Kevin Garnett?
    SF- LeBron James
    SG- Allen Iverson
    PG- Steve Nash

    <font color="Navy">All NBA 2nd Team</font>

    C- Amare Stoudemire
    PF- Dirk Nowitzki
    SF- Tracy McGrady
    SG- Ray Allen
    PG- Dwayne Wade

    <font color="Navy">All NBA 3rd Team</font>

    This is a hard one. Too many to choose from...

    <font color="Navy">All Rookie Team</font>

    C- Emeka Okafor
    PF- Dwight Howard
    SF- Luol Deng
    SG- Andre Iguodala
    PG- Ben Gordon

    <font color="Navy">All Defensive Team</font>

    C- Ben Wallace
    PF- Tim Duncan
    SF- Bruce Bowen
    SG- Larry Hughes
    PG- ????????????
     
  10. Got DWade?

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    Most Valuable Player - Steve Nash, just look at how the sun's played when Nash was injured, how the rest of the team played.

    Defensive Player of the Year - Tim Duncan definately.

    Rookie of the Year - Ben Gordon because the bulls rely on him so much to win games.

    Sixth Man of the Year - Ben Gordon again because of the way he is producing off the bench.

    Most Improved Player - Dwyane Wade (not biased) 16.2 ppg 4.5 apg first season, versus, 23.9 ppg and 7 apg second season.

    Coach Of The Year - Nate McMillan, last years record versus this years record

    Biggest Disappointment - Minnesota Timberwolves, I don't believe that needs an explanation

    Biggest Surprise - Chicago, I think almost everyone thought chicago would be one the worst teams in the league.

    Comeback Player Of The Year - Grant Hill, duh

    Biggest Rookie Surprise - Matt Bonner

    Biggest Rookie Dissapointment - Luke Jackson, I don't know why everyone is hating on hoffa, I mean we knew before we drafted him he wasn't going to do anything, he's still a project even tho he is old, so how can you possibly call him a dissapointment if no one expected him to be good this season.
     
  11. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Most Improved Player-Kirk Hinrich</div>
    Really? Hinrich?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Penny":</div><div class="quote_post">Most Improved Player - Kyle Korver</div>
    Nooo...how could you, you gotta rep for Bobby Simmons, he's Penny #2, though their games have 0 similarities.
     
  12. Umer remU

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    i agree with the guy above, hinrich was almost as good last year, he improved no doubt and is amazing but he was already just as good his rookie year
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">
    <font color="Navy">All Defensive Team</font>

    C- Ben Wallace
    PF- Tim Duncan
    SF- Bruce Bowen
    SG- Larry Hughes
    PG- ????????????</div>

    You can possibly add Wade to your empty guard position. Wade leads all guards in blocks and is one of the better defensive guards in the league.
     
  14. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nooo...how could you, you gotta rep for Bobby Simmons, he's Penny #2, though their games have 0 similarities.</div>

    Believe it or not, Kyle Korver is quite possibly the MIP. First let me say that Simmons truly deserves the award but Korver might get it simply because of his popularity. He is by far more popular than Simmons on the court and off the court. We all know about the Ashton Kutchur comparisons and then we all know about his specialty. His deadly accuracy makes him standout from everyone else and when you take the fact that he?s wasn?t much of player at all last season just merely a spot up 3pt shooter, Korver has made a significant jump from last season. The fact that he has become more of an all around basketball player will give him tons of accolades. And then you have the clutch factor. Korver has hit many clutch shots this season and impossible shots at that. And to be honest, I remember him saving the 76ers butts more than Iverson has this season. Not to mention, he has slowly become the best team defender on the 76ers which is quite surprising because he couldn?t play a tad of defense last season. So yeah, I think Korver will get the MIP even though Simmons deserves it. But even if Simmons doesn?t get it, Korver getting the award wouldn?t be a crime either.
     
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    Are you guys serious? How does Simmons get the nod over NAZR? [​IMG]
     
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    MVP: LBJ
    MIP: LeBron James (.06 field goal percantage increase, 1.5 rpg increase, 1.5 apg increase, .6 spg increase, 5.5 ppg increase
    Comeback player of the year: Grant Hill
    ROY: Gordon
    6th Man: Gordon
    Coach of the Year: Skiles



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dwyane Wade (not biased) 16.2 ppg 4.5 apg first season, versus, 23.9 ppg and 7 apg second season.</div>
    But how much of the increase is due to having the big aristotle?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But how much of the increase is due to having the big aristotle?</div>honestly, not that much. Shaquille may very possibly have helped dwyane's FG%, but i really think he'd be putting up the same numbers offensively without him.
     
  18. Got DWade?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">MVP: LBJ

    But how much of the increase is due to having the big aristotle?</div>

    Do you remember when shaq was out? He averaged even better numbers (offensively at least). I've heard some people say that he can't keep it up the whole season...why not? He's in amazing condition, the only thing that could stop him would be an injury.
     
  19. Umer remU

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    Kirk Hinrich is probably the best defensive guard, i mean he can go out and shut down a 1 guard or even a 2 guard, u see wat he did against ray allen
     
  20. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But how much of the increase is due to having the big aristotle?</div>
    Not that much, Shaq's biggest impact is in the win-loss column as opposed to Wade's numbers. In games Shaq has been out [5 games], he averaged 29.0 points, 4.0 rebounds, 9.0 assists, 5.2 turnovers [their's the bad thing], 3.0 steals, 1.8 blocks, 10.2 FT attempts, and shot 56.5% FG. He didn't shoot under 45% in any of those games.

    Wade can put up the numbers, but without Shaq he won't get the same amount of wins, that's where Shaq's impact is mostly at. Shaq doesn't really help his FG% because while he would help most players who shoot from the outside, Wade is primarily a slasher, so sometimes Shaq being in there crowds the lane, though other times he can be an easy assist when Wade drives.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kirk Hinrich is probably the best defensive guard, i mean he can go out and shut down a 1 guard or even a 2 guard, u see wat he did against ray allen</div>
    No he's not, that's a homer pick, while I've given Hinrich many props for his defense, their's a lot of better defensive guards than him, but Hinrich is definately a good one, but not close to being the best one
     

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