Most Valuable Player - I would say Duncan. He's doing so well for so long that people tend to forget him in the MVP race. His team has the best record so far, and he accoutns for at least 70% of that success. Defensive Player of the Year - Andrei Kirilenko, dark horse is Shawn Marion Rookie of the Year - Ben Gordon Sixth Man of the Year - Ben Gordon Most Improved Player - Chris Bosh Coach of the Year - Gregg Poppovich
Most Valuable Player - Steve Nash Defensive Player of the Year - Kirk Heinrich, not many players are standing out this year as great defenders. every time I see kirk, he's shutting people down. Rookie of the Year - Oakafor, showing me moves I never thought I'd see from the oak tree. I believe it's harder to be the man on a bad team than the situation Howard is in. Sixth Man of the Year - Ben Gordon/Ricky Davis Most Improved Player - LeBron stepped up from a good perimiter player who could dunk into an MVP canidate. Improved by leaps and bounds in every aspect of his game. Especially leadership. Coach of the Year - Paul Silas! nah, I think it's Pop this season Rookie Suprise - Beno U, just the all around package. And like most international players, I had no idea who he was. Rookie Disapointment - I won't say someone who had to have back surgery (luke), I thought Childress would have an edge by playing 4 years of college ball, but he really hasn't
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Most Improved Player - Chris Bosh</div> There is no way Bosh has improved more than Mohammed!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">There is no way Bosh has improved more than Mohammed!</div> Oh yeah, I'm sorry about that. Make them co-MIP's.
Most Valuable Player - Steve Nash. He has carried the Suns all season and their record with Nash and without Nash says it all. He is a big piece to the Suns run-and-gun style and you can say if you take Nash away the Suns would be an average team. Defensive Player of the Year - Larry Hughes Rookie of the Year - Ben Gordon. Is a great closer for the Bulls, he has a great outside shot. It's close between my boy Andre Iguodala, him and Okafor. I think Iguodala should get more consideration though (probably biased). Sixth Man of the Year - Ricky Davis Most Improved Player - Bobby Simmons Coach of the Year - Mike Fratello. He has turned a so-so team in to a possible threat to number 2 and 3 teams in the playoffs. I wouldn't want to play the Grizzles in the first round.
I don't know if you're serious or not, so I don't want to reply, but Mohammed improved, but also had a fairly good season before in ATL, and he kinda dropped off later in the season. Simmons has never averaged double digits, and could hardly shoot from outside before, but now he's averaging 17 points, and is money from anywhere out to 21 feet, and can hit three's fairly well now, that is why.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know if you're serious or not, so I don't want to reply, but Mohammed improved, but also had a fairly good season before in ATL, and he kinda dropped off later in the season. Simmons has never averaged double digits, and could hardly shoot from outside before, but now he's averaging 17 points, and is money from anywhere out to 21 feet, and can hit three's fairly well now, that is why.</div> I'm serious this time. Simmons was already improving and now that he got 13 more minutes, I think he should be putting up those kind of numbers. Nazr had a season in Atlanta, but the difference was that the Hawks had no chance at all at making the playoffs, therefore he had more time to put up those type of numbers. Mohammed in playing about 2 more minutes was putting up 13 and 9 before he had that groin injury. In Atlanta, he had NO foot work whatsover and a majority of is points came from put backs, fast breaks etc. Basically he rarely scored anywhere outside point blank range. Now Nazr has developed a legit post game, has some more range, and has improved on just about every part of his game. He went from scrub to having all-star considerations!! That is a huge improvement.
hahahahahahahaha this is hilarious <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Most Improved Player - Chris Bosh</div> NOT EVEN CLOSE!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm serious this time. Simmons was already improving and now that he got 13 more minutes, I think he should be putting up those kind of numbers. Nazr had a season in Atlanta, but the difference was that the Hawks had no chance at all at making the playoffs, therefore he had more time to put up those type of numbers. Mohammed in playing about 2 more minutes was putting up 13 and 9 before he had that groin injury. In Atlanta, he had NO foot work whatsover and a majority of is points came from put backs, fast breaks etc. Basically he rarely scored anywhere outside point blank range. Now Nazr has developed a legit post game, has some more range, and has improved on just about every part of his game. He went from scrub to having all-star considerations!! That is a huge improvement.</div> You say Simmons was already improving, but Mohammed wasn't? Simmons shot wasn't close to being this good last season, I watched the Clippers, he had a good jumpshot, but not nearly as good as it is now. Nazr isn't some young guy who is in his third year and just worked on his game, he could've put up these numbers before if not for injuries, and if he got the minutes. He didn't get the minutes because he was playing behind Ratliff. Mohammed is a 28 year old vet, his game has not had any dramatic alterations. Mohammed had a season where he played 82 games and averaged 9.7 points, and 7.9 rebounds in 26 MPG. On New York last season he averaged 9.1 points and 7.7 rebounds in 25 MPG, and on New York this season he averaged 10.9 points, and 8.1 rebounds in 28 minutes. If you look at his per 28 minutes numbers on Atlanta from last season, they equate to 10.3 points and 7.9 rebounds. Their's really no way he's going to get voted as MIP, not even close, at best he was averaging 13 points and 9 rebounds in 32 minutes, but that's not close to being as big an improvement as Simmons, and not enough to give him MIP. The people picking aren't going to say, well before his groin injury his numbers were better, but even if they did, it's still not a significant enough improvement from 9 and 8 to 13 and 9. Maurice Williams could also make a case, and guys like Wade, Lebron, Bosh etc could be said to have improved just as much as Mohammed and/or even more.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">this is hilarious NOT EVEN CLOSE!!</div> Why you always answering back to whatever a Raptor fan says? The Knicks aren't that great either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">No he's not, that's a homer pick, while I've given Hinrich many props for his defense, their's a lot of better defensive guards than him, but Hinrich is definately a good one, but not close to being the best one</div> coaches around the nba, praise hinrichs defensive abiltiy, hinrich is kinda like the old "glove" before age got to him, and if i were to name the top 5 defensive guards kirk would be in that top 5
Kirk is already a great defender, and if he keeps improving (and why wouldn't he) he can become the best in the game
nothing <div class="quote_poster">Quoting raptors4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Why you always answering back to whatever a Raptor fan says? The Knicks aren't that great either.</div> it has nothing to do with the raps it has to do with the fact that bosh isnt MIP....if raptor fans are wrong more often and need correction it aint my fault
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">it has nothing to do with the raps it has to do with the fact that bosh isnt MIP....if raptor fans are wrong more often and need correction it aint my fault</div> Let's see...who did you pick for MIP? Mohammed? Simmons? Mohammed's case has already been picked apart by og15, so I don't really have much more to add. The bottomline is: he has been this good before in Atlanta, so this season shouldn't be as much of a surprise as Simmons. Simmons is a perfect case of someone working on his game and finally getting playing time and the right opportunity to contribute. He has improved his stats by a mile, but it shouldn't really come as surprising for a team that has limited firepower and has been riddled by injuries all season. Simmons basically got all the shots that Quentin Richardson got last season, and therefore is getting similar stats. Bosh, meanwhile, was forced into the role of number one option by the Carter trade. He had an idea that the trade was coming, but he had never been number one option before the trade. However, he has responded very well after he basically had to become the leader of the team, in just his second season. His scoring has gone up nearly 5 points per game in just 3 more minutes. He's rebounding at a very good clip, improved his field goal and free throw percentages, assists, and has developed a very much more refined game. He did well against tough opposition, highlighted by a win in December against the Timberwolves and when he outperformed the reigning MVP. While Simmons and Mohammed knew of their opportunities and what they were allowed to do, Bosh was thrust into the lead role on offense all of a sudden and has responded very well to it, and his stats show it. If you are so good and helpful in correcting my mistakes, why don't we hear you speak up and justify your "correction" with solid facts? Prove to me that I'm wrong. If the evidence is good, I'll definitely agree with you, and stand corrected.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">You say Simmons was already improving, but Mohammed wasn't? Simmons shot wasn't close to being this good last season, I watched the Clippers, he had a good jumpshot, but not nearly as good as it is now. Nazr isn't some young guy who is in his third year and just worked on his game, he could've put up these numbers before if not for injuries, and if he got the minutes. He didn't get the minutes because he was playing behind Ratliff. Mohammed is a 28 year old vet, his game has not had any dramatic alterations.</div> But even so, he was a BUM. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Mohammed had a season where he played 82 games and averaged 9.7 points, and 7.9 rebounds in 26 MPG. </div> How he got those points is different. He was playing for a team who was doing worse and worse. A lottery team slipping so he got his few minutes off put backs and such. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On New York last season he averaged 9.1 points and 7.7 rebounds in 25 MPG, and on New York this season he averaged 10.9 points, and 8.1 rebounds in 28 minutes. If you look at his per 28 minutes numbers on Atlanta from last season, they equate to 10.3 points and 7.9 rebounds.</div> But he was still a bum. He got a lot of those rebounds from Tim Thomas being a horrible rebounder and the Knicks overall not being a great rebounding team. Before he got hurt, he was putting up better numbers on different ways of scoring. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Their's really no way he's going to get voted as MIP, not even close, at best he was averaging 13 points and 9 rebounds in 32 minutes, but that's not close to being as big an improvement as Simmons, and not enough to give him MIP. The people picking aren't going to say, well before his groin injury his numbers were better, but even if they did, it's still not a significant enough improvement from 9 and 8 to 13 and 9. </div> But the way he scored is what is different. Just as Simmons improved his range Mohammed improved his 1 foot range he had into around 12ish and his freethrow percetage sky rocketed. He also had a legit post game and scored on a variety of ways instead of Marbury constantly spoon feeding him open dunks (which a lot of the time he either missed or it slipped out of his hands) and him getting put backs and stuff. Simmons had Kittles missing all but 11 games, and Maggette out for 10 games so he had 13 more minutes to improve his stats. Even with the center position being weak, Mohammed was in all-star contention. Come on, that was a HUGE improvement. Why was NY the only one after Mohammed and after that, much more teams wanted him?? He has improved greatly and stats doesn't just show it. The fact he doesn't get fouls in the first 10 seconds of games, or the way he's been scoring should be taken into consideration. Even if Nazr doesn't get picked I think it will be because he was hurt. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bosh, meanwhile, was forced into the role of number one option by the Carter trade. He had an idea that the trade was coming, but he had never been number one option before the trade. However, he has responded very well after he basically had to become the leader of the team, in just his second season. His scoring has gone up nearly 5 points per game in just 3 more minutes. He's rebounding at a very good clip, improved his field goal and free throw percentages, assists, and has developed a very much more refined game. He did well against tough opposition, highlighted by a win in December against the Timberwolves and when he outperformed the reigning MVP. While Simmons and Mohammed knew of their opportunities and what they were allowed to do, Bosh was thrust into the lead role on offense all of a sudden and has responded very well to it, and his stats show it.</div> Just like you said, he knew it was coming one way or the other. He knew it was just a matter of time before he would become the leader of the team. It's not like he was playing on the Bobcats or something. He has great help in Marshall, Skip and Rose. He's just getting more touches that's why him commiting almost one more turnover in that two minutes is understandable. Bosh was already a good player since he was a rookie and the reason why some of his stats have been improving is because the Raptors basically threw away Carter's scoring. Mourning wanted out and left, and Williams scores 4.5ppg leaving about 11.5ppg to be scored by someone else. Bosh was one of those players who got that opportunity now that Carter was gone. He has improved but I don't think it has been more than Nazr, Simmons, Wade, or James.
lets take a look lets break down chris bosh's increase as opposed to LBJ. LBJ improved 5.4 ppg as opposed to 4.8 ppg improvement. In rebounding LBJ improved 1.5 rpg as opposed to bosh's 1.2 rpg improvement. In assist LBJ improved 1.6 apg as opposed to bosh's .9 to a still poor 1.9 apg. In steal lbj improved .6 a game as apposed to bosh's .2 per game improvement. We cant compare 3 point% because bosh doesnt shoot 3s but LBJ improved .07 from.290 to .360. In blocks bosh went down .07 and james went down .1. In TOs James has .3 less a game while bosh has .15 more. Where did Bosh improve more than James?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">lets break down chris bosh's increase as opposed to LBJ. LBJ improved 5.4 ppg as opposed to 4.8 ppg improvement. In rebounding LBJ improved 1.5 rpg as opposed to bosh's 1.2 rpg improvement. In assist LBJ improved 1.6 apg as opposed to bosh's .9 to a still poor 1.9 apg. In steal lbj improved .6 a game as apposed to bosh's .2 per game improvement. We cant compare 3 point% because bosh doesnt shoot 3s but LBJ improved .07 from.290 to .360. In blocks bosh went down .07 and james went down .1. In TOs James has .3 less a game while bosh has .15 more. Where did Bosh improve more than James?</div> I agree he has improved MUCH more than Bosh. With all that hype of him wining ROY, plus the continuous hype from everyone else about the next Jordan or even Magic I feel is WAY bigger than Bosh getting more touches because of a whiny Carter who was bound to leave Toronto finally left. He increased much more in just about every statistical value. I didn't even know it was so much. I think I might have changed my answer from Nazr to James!
Most Valuable Player - Steve Nash. Shaq is creeping up. Most Improved Player - LeBron James Rookie of the Year - Emeka Okafor...Unless Gordon can up that PPG to 16 or something and help the Bulls to the 4th seed, I wouldn't give it to him over a double double man like Okafor. Defensive Player of the Year - Shawn Marion 6th Man - Ben Gordon Biggest Team Dissapointment - Timberwolves and Jazz Biggest Team Surprise - Seattle Supersonics Coach of the Year - Nate McMillan or Skiles Biggest Rookie Surprise - Matt Bonner Biggest Rookie Dissapointment - Hoffa, Luke Jackson ALL NBA 1st Team: G- Steve Nash G- Allen Iverson F- LeBron James F- Kevin Garnett C- Shaquille O'Neal ALL NBA 2nd Team: G- Dwyane Wade G- Kobe Bryant/Tracy McGrady...Decision will be easier by seasons end F- Dirk Nowitzki F- Tim Duncan C- Amare Stoudemire ALL NBA First Defensive Team: G- Larry Hughes G- Bruce Bowen F- Shawn Marion F- Tim Duncan C- Ben Wallace
