I just hope For Dwyane Wade's Sake

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  1. mike18946

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    That he doesn't get haters down the line like we have seen with Kobe. Playing with Shaq and having a chance to win the championship will give reasons to hate the guy. I have noticed alot of fans lately riding Wade very hard when It comes to the top players in the league and comparing him to MJ e.t.c. Which can get others to hate the guy purely for that reason. Of course thats not the only reason why people have hated Kobe but It is a big reason.

    I doubt Wade will get the hate Kobe gets because he is not arrogant and he is a very humble kid. The more success he has though with Shaq the more some fans may have reasons to put him down in some way.

    He is actually a much better fit for Shaq and that is why the Heat have a better chance to win It all than last years Lakers team. The chemistry between Shaq and Wade seems far greater and the Heat role players are tougher to contend than L.A's.

    Should be interesting how It all pans out.
     
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    You said it yourself, he is humble. A friend of mine works for the Heat, and she gets to mingle with the players, and she loves how nice Wade is and how he treats everyone around him. He is a superstar in this league but he is still down to earth and that is what seperates him from most of the other top players in this league.
     
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    I hope not to, especially if the media starts trying to shove him down people's throat's, though with Lebron that shouldn't happen. Even if he gets haters though, it won't be even close to the amount Kobe has.
     
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    You said it best you?re self, Wade is humble. This is primarily the reason why he won't get bashed well just maybe not as hard as Kobe Bryant that is. The reason why there are so many Kobe haters is because Kobe was at time a cocky and arrogant player but the "hateism" is not entirely his fault, it's the fans fault. I blame them for majority of the reason why people dislike Kobe. Some fans often and till this day refer to him as if he's Michael Jordan or thee greatest player that ever played. Hearing things like that just gets? me so, I don't know, but that is the main reason why I once was a Kobe hater. But back to Wade?

    Wade is something else. Again, he is a very humble guy and all he does is play basketball. He doesn't have much to say and he rather his performance on the court do the talking which is the best trait about him. And I have to admit, I have made the jump on the Wade bandwagon. Even though I always liked Wade since he came in, I have to say Wade has made the jump to the #2 spot on my fav. player list. Guess who?s #1? [​IMG]

    1. Popeye Jones
    2. Dwayne Wade
    3. Kevin Garnett/Tracy McGrady
    4. LeBron James
    5. Kobe Bryant/Shaquille O'Neal
     
  5. Umer remU

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    i think not only is wade gonna be liked by fans more than kobe, put the players in the league r gonna like wade more, wade just seems like a nice guy, kobe doesnt
     
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    That is one of the reasons why i love this guy. He doesn't mind taking a backseat to shaquille unlike Kobe, whom i used to hate. I remember seeing him down by New York last year and he was so nice to me, actually talked for like 5-10 minutes. Even though i used to hate Kobe, i've actually started watching Laker games when they were struggling, you could even say i'm becoming a fan.(i like underdogs, but does this make me a bandwagon fan?)
     
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    Every time a player gets publicity and reaches superstar levels he will get hate. It will not be avoidable. Every aspect of the players life will be looked at with an intense microscope that anything he does remotely wrong will be frowned upon.

    With that being said I think DWade is one of the more down to earth players in the league along with Chris Bosh. Of course I don't know the dude personally but I really think that he has come into the league with a good head on his shoulders and I hope the hype doesn't get to him to a point where he starts talking about himself in the 3rd person.
     
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    True
    There's always gonna be haters if you get famous. All I can hope is that he doesn't get carried away with his fame and take stupid actions against those anti-wade people. Not paying attention as if those people don't exist would be the best option.
     
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    The media loves to build up heros just to tear them down. The haters will eventually show up, I'm sure there will be a lot of "Who's better Wade or LeBron?" similar to the Kobe v. T-Mac rivalry. Wade has a completely different demeanor than Kobe and he doesn't have the off the court drama Kobe got himself into. Hopefully he never does because Wade is an amazing player, and is deserving to be the face of the NBA in a few years.
     
  10. Karma

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    wade just seems like a nice guy, kobe doesnt
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    That's the portyal Kobe has recieved through negative media coverage. Do you not remember the pre-scandal years when Kobe was a role model and one of the most clean cut guys in the league? Needless to say, its pretty sad how quickly people just hated him due to the rape charges. It was like "oh my god, the perfect guy made a (very big) mistake!"
    I think most of the hate he has recived from NON-basketball fans is unjust. I know plenty of people in m yschool and around me that when the word Kobe comes into play, first thing they say is "that rapist". And it just irks me to see this. He is a professional basketball player, first and foremost and when people just label him "a rapist" over something that is done and over with it makes me see the ignorance that exists among us. How long are people willing to hold on to that one mistake?

    For the record, I have heard from many people (some on this site) that Kobe is a very nice guy to fans and all and he is humble to be around. Just because he aims to be the best basketball player, he is not a good person?
    If he's cocky, whats Shaq? Jordan wasn't cocky? The way people think baffles me.

    If people's critisicm on him are from a basketball standpoint, I completely agree with most of the critiscm, as long as it is just but to bash him because the media's portryal of him (Next Jordan) or because of what another player said is just stupid. Sadly, many people have resorted to that.
     
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    Kobe was the NBA's posterchild and everyone loved him until the rape incident. 90% of NBA fans didn't just all of a sudden begin hating him a little over a year ago for no reason at all.
     
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    If Wade doesn't screw up off court, I really don't think he will have to face the wolves like Kobe does.

    But (there is always one of these), if the Heat do win championships with Shaq/Wade like Kobe/Shaq did, then Wade will have to live up to the expectations of leading the Heat back when Shaq is done, which I think he will be able to because Wade is just an amazing, versatile player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">If Wade doesn't screw up off court, I really don't think he will have to face the wolves like Kobe does.

    But (there is always one of these), if the Heat do win championships with Shaq/Wade like Kobe/Shaq did, then Wade will have to live up to the expectations of leading the Heat back when Shaq is done, which I think he will be able to because Wade is just an amazing, versatile player.</div>

    Wade led the Heat to the 4th seed and eastern conference semi-finals in his rookie season, and he is easily twice the player this season that he was as a rookie, so the Heat will certainly be a perrenial playoff team for as long as Wade is around. But once Shaq is gone in 2 years or so, a lot of rebuilding will have to be done because we'll have no use for the core group of guys we have now without Shaq in the middle.
     
  14. Mr. J

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    I like Wade and I think he is the best sophomore (yes better than James!!!), it just hurts me when people start overrating him. I mean he did some great things and then the next Michael Jordan. [​IMG]

    Wade never had that trash talking mentality and is really humble on the court unlike someone like Kobe who is really active in that department. Kobe is known for being somewhat selfish and arrogant, while Wade seems like a nice guy and shares the superstardom with Shaq and sees him as an elder.

    James I would have definitely liked more if people weren't on his meat rack all the time. Even if people started overrating Wade, he can't control that so I don't know if I wouldn't like him as much. Still his humbleness and the fact he never did anything like curse his coach out or get accused of rape.

    While I don't like the Wade groupies and silly comments about him, to me he is still the best sophomore right now and he is cool about it and does what he has to do. If he continues this, I'll still like him. If he doesn't I don't know. Flash is overrated by some which is a big factor in people not liking him as much, but despite this his humbleness is what might make people reconsider.
     
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    Nobody is saying Wade is going to become the next MJ, but a lot of ways MJ progressed in his career, Wade is taking a similar approach. Thats why I see MJ in his game, and thats why I compare the two. Do I see him wining the title 6 times, MVP multiple times, scoring champ multiple times, one of the greatest players in history, I hope so, but Im not saying that.

    When it comes to Kobe, not only has the negative media hurt him, but also his relationship with his current and past teammates and coaches. I liked Kobe before everything happened, but Im not impressed with him at all anymore. Sure the guy can put up 50 any given night, but he is going to realize that he is going to need help if he ever wants to wear a ring again, and as much as you wanting to be the man, you dont let someone like Shaq leave. Scottie and Mike werent the best of friends, but they knew they needed each other to win those titles. Kobe will not win another ring unless he decides to trust his teammates and make it a point that he needs to help his team overall.
     
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    Shaq left because he wanted a max extension and the Lakers did not think he was worth the price. Where the Lakers went wrong was what they got in return for Shaq. They got completely ripped on the deal.

    As for Shaq and Kobe it came down to the Lakers deciding to build around the younger superstar instead of caving into Shaq's salary demands.

    If the tables were turned for the Heat and they had to decide between keeping Shaq or Wade, who do you think they would rather build around?
     
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    Dwyane Wade is the man. Everyone knows it and everyone says it, except him. He is so down to earth and such a student of the game that he will never think he is bigger than the game itself, which is where Kobe went wrong. Kobe started it when he was drafted and would not play for anyone but LA. Selfish and arrogant. Dwyane Wade appreciates the time he has, the skills he has and the people around him that worked so hard to get him to where he is. How can you hate on that?
     
  18. Umer remU

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">That's the portyal Kobe has recieved through negative media coverage. Do you not remember the pre-scandal years when Kobe was a role model and one of the most clean cut guys in the league? Needless to say, its pretty sad how quickly people just hated him due to the rape charges. It was like "oh my god, the perfect guy made a (very big) mistake!"
    I think most of the hate he has recived from NON-basketball fans is unjust. I know plenty of people in m yschool and around me that when the word Kobe comes into play, first thing they say is "that rapist". And it just irks me to see this. He is a professional basketball player, first and foremost and when people just label him "a rapist" over something that is done and over with it makes me see the ignorance that exists among us. How long are people willing to hold on to that one mistake?

    For the record, I have heard from many people (some on this site) that Kobe is a very nice guy to fans and all and he is humble to be around. Just because he aims to be the best basketball player, he is not a good person?
    If he's cocky, whats Shaq? Jordan wasn't cocky? The way people think baffles me.

    If people's critisicm on him are from a basketball standpoint, I completely agree with most of the critiscm, as long as it is just but to bash him because the media's portryal of him (Next Jordan) or because of what another player said is just stupid. Sadly, many people have resorted to that.</div>


    Actually people hating him started way before the rape incedent ever happened. People do not hate him just cuz he want to be the next jordan, just look at lebron, he doenst have half the haters that kobe does
     
  19. Got DWade?

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    wtf is with the rape trial (I also doubt that there ever was a rape, just some greedy lady looking for money), I don't like kobe cos he's alot like melo, a jerk. Just the way he treats his teammates, he's way to cocky, he think's he's better than everyone and gets rid of both Phil and Shaq. The little chump think he's smarter, and better than both Phil and shaq. IMO he's just an arrogant ass.

    BTW everyone in this leauge everyone is cocky, but not everyone wants to undermine a whole coaching staff (which works, obviously, 3 rings in 5 years, there would have and should have been more if kobe and shaq could play together). And despite what kobe thinks, Shaq IS the first offensive weapon. Of course with shaq comes more contract problems for the lakers so they decided to take kobe, but while he was there Kobe should have made the best out of it. Who knows.

    Anyway this is a thread for Wade isn't it?

    I don't think he'll get nearly as much hate as kobe, of course he always will, but just because of his personality currently I doubt it.
     
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    Wade is gonna get his haters, I just get the feeling. When he hit the shot to beat the knicks, you know his actions could be misconstrewed as smug and cocky, when he's just being himself.

    People will begin to hate when a player accepts greatness. I know plenty of people that hate Reggie Miller because of his "I know I can attitude" Wade has that attitude already.

    And like it's been stated, Kobe was seen as an angel for a long time, but subtle actions ticked off fans, and got them from thinking "this kid is confident" to "this kid is cocky"
     

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