Could Kobe and Iverson make a Great DUO?

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  1. ChicagoSportsFan

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    I was just replying to a post on Iversons career being a bust when the idea of Kobe and iverson playing together came to mind. Kobe is in a situatoin that iverson has been in for most of his career. Now iverson has two years left on his contract so there would have to be a trade to make this happen.


    My question is do you think Kobe and Iverson could make a great duo? And if so how coulds you possibly construct a deal where they would play along side one another?

    Personally I think they would make a good 1-2 punch. Maybe you could give philly butler, odem, divac, and some draft pics to get ivo in the off season/next season. I dont know guys Id apreciate your opinons.
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    AI again told the press that he's not leaving Philly
    If someone gets traded to play on the same team, Kobe has to get traded but i don't see that happening even in the next life.
    But if they did play together, that team's gonna have #1 and #2 top scorers in the league while others only average like 5 points
     
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    Two words: Hell No

    They both like to control the ball (Iverson more-so). Both take a good amount of shots, there isn't enough ball for the two of them IMO.
     
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    both of them in the same back court would never work, they both play with the ball in their hands neither play off the ball, too many "bitch fits" with kobe, kobe would never want to play with someone that handles the ball as much as ai, thats why lakers never had a true point guard for all these years(gary payton doesnt count cause he never got to run a freestyle offense he only played in the triangle at la)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umer remU:</div><div class="quote_post">both of them in the same back court would never work, they both play with the ball in their hands neither play off the ball, too many "bitch fits" with kobe, kobe would never want to play with someone that handles the ball as much as ai, thats why lakers never had a true point guard for all these years(gary payton doesnt count cause he never got to run a freestyle offense he only played in the triangle at la)</div>

    That wasnt because of Kobe. It was because we didnt have a good PG.
    And anyway Derek Fisher was plenty enough.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">That wasnt because of Kobe. It was because we didnt have a good PG.
    And anyway Derek Fisher was plenty enough.</div>


    even if ya did have a good pg, kobe wouldnt let him controle the ball while kobe's on the court
     
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    I dont know guys. I think they are both at a point in their careers where they could learn to play together. They have both learned valuable lessons in their careers about teamwork and if they did play together and coexist that would be awsome. If if jerry west and oscar robinson could do it, there is a great possibility that they could also. Jery West and Oscar were the two most prolifice guards of their time and they coexisted. If they could work together they would be unguardable on fast breaks. they would shut teams down defensively ( with Kobes one on one d and Ivos ability to steal passes ) they would make a formidable tandum. add a decent bigman in the mix and that team would be TUFF!
     
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    Give them a ball each and 4 guys each who are willing to pass the ball each and every possession to them and they should be ayt
     
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    Um no.

    Both are ballhogs and both don't make others better.

    Odds are those two will hate each other too.
     
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    emm possibilities is there..but each player wants to be the team's star.. and kobe have a 7 years contract whereas AI is not leaving philly so the chances of being teammates is relatively low.... but yet. there is no team work in the team anymore which i believe strongly in team work for sports like basketball.... A good basketball game involve team works which i dun think will happend if kobe and AI co-exist. maybe the rest of the team will only have the chance to look and no contribution.
     
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    :| no, iverson is even more of a ball hog then kobe.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Got DWade?:</div><div class="quote_post">:| no, iverson is even more of a ball hog then kobe.</div>
    naw, ai is a ball hog but kobe is bigger ball hog, its not even close
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umer remU:</div><div class="quote_post">naw, ai is a ball hog but kobe is bigger ball hog, its not even close</div>

    I can't see how anyone can be a bigger ball hog then AI, even kobe. Duely noted that AI is a point now, and does amazing things with the ball (30 ppg, 7apg)
     
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    AI is a ballhog, so is Kobe. It just seems that the difference is that AI tries to get his teammates involved when he gets double teamed. Kobe tends to take the shot while double teamed a bit more.

    I don't know if its b/c Kobe doesn't trust his teammates, b/c AI hits open looks for Korver, Iggy and Dalembert.
     
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    AI gets teammates involved more than Kobe? Wow, hell has officially frozen over.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Two words: Hell No

    They both like to control the ball (Iverson more-so). Both take a good amount of shots, there isn't enough ball for the two of them IMO.</div>

    thats exactly wat i would say
     
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    No, No, No, No! This would be a big mistake cuz these are 2 players who are great with the ball and they both cant have the ball at the same time so this wouldnt even be close to workin out.
     
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    It would never work, both need the ball to be effective and with both of these guys on one team they could never work on sharing the ball between ech other. You never know though, whenever Allen plays with stars he becomes a lot more accustomed to passing the ball more then shooting. Plus as he gets older his mentality may change on the game, and cause him to pass a lot more.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">AI gets teammates involved more than Kobe? Wow, hell has officially frozen over.</div>

    Yes, Iverson does indeed gets his teammates involved more than Kobe. And if you think otherwise you haven't been watching any basketball as of late.

    Just one game after Luke Walton didn't deliver in the closing moments of the Knicks game, Kobe is taking ridiculous shots while being double teamed the following night. That just goes to show you how much confidence he has in his teammates and the willingness he has to get them involved no matter what happens.

    Allen Iverson on the other hand hasn't done nothing but make his teammates better. From ex-teammate Kenny Thomas to Samuel Dalembert , Andre Iguodala and Kyle Korver, Iverson has been remarkable. Just ask me why, he is among MVP candidates while his team is just flirting at .500 not over .500? He must be doing something right beyond just individual play to rank himself in the Top 5 among MVP candidates according to many analysts and fans for that matter.

    But nevertheless, what Iverson is doing with his teammates is completely different from what Kobe is doing in tinsel town. The 76ers have posted a 8-3 record when in games is decided by 2 points or less and out of those 8 wins Iverson was only involved in half of those wins. So that makes you wonder who else came up big for the 76ers in those other 4 wins? How about Kyle Korver, Marc Jackson and others? Despite Iverson ability to hit big shots after big shot he has grown to have confidence and trust in his teammates and he lets them take the big shots unlike some people. As of right now, Kobe doesn?t have near the confidence and willingness to get his teammates involved as much as Iverson. Maybe in a couple years or so Kobe will realize how to get things done the right way. I?m not going to knock Kobe all that much because this is his first year since the post-Shaq era and it?s going to take some time for him to adjust, but I?m just sick of people still claiming how Iverson is ball hog and doesn?t make the people around him better.

    The reason why Iverson appears to be a ?ball hog? is because his is playing two positions. It?s just that simple and people don?t understand that not only his accountable for carrying the scoring load is he also accountable for running the offense as well. So when he is not scoring he is setting guys up, and as you watch the games he has the ball in hand non-stop which makes you come to conclusion that he is a ball hog, but in actuality he is playing two positions at the same time. Iverson has evolved a lot since his killer crossover days, and if some people still can?t realize that they must not have too much knowledge of basketball.
     
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    Kobe would get 40 shots a a game, AI would get 40 a game. Butler would get 2 a game, and I'm assuming Lamar Odom wouldn't get to shoot because he would probably foul out or something.
     

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