<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">SWEET RIDE The NCAA prohibits colleges athletes from using their status to gain 'extra benefits' -- such as the use of a car or jobs for family members -- but it's not always easy to determine what the rules allow Thursday April 03, 2003 By Josh Peter Staff writer When he's driving the black 2000 Nissan Altima across campus, Duke point guard Chris Duhon is easy to spot. A dead giveaway is the personalized license plate: C DOO 21. Duhon wears jersey No. 21, and he directs Duke's offense with the same steadiness he showed at Salmen High School in Slidell, but the car might surprise the people from his hometown. After all, in high school Duhon didn't have a car, and had to hitch rides with friends or borrow his mother's 1972 Volkswagen Beetle, a former Salmen teammate said. -- Duhon's mother, Vivian Harper, landed a job working for a Duke booster; co-workers say the job opening was never posted and that Harper was overpaid and lacked qualifications. When a manager at the company asked why Harper was moving from Louisiana, supervisors informed him that her son, one of the nation's top recruits, had signed to play at Duke. </div> Link New cars? New job? I smell a rat. Here's something else I stumbled upon - <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PERCEPTION: Duke's basketball players, in contrast to many major college athletes, are squeaky clean. REALITY: Those who have had brushes with the law the past two years include J.J. Redick (marijuana), Casey Sanders (assault), Reggie Love (DUI) and Chris Duhon (underage drinking).</div> Link
Considering the major press that Duke gets with their basketball program, you can pretty much guarentee that Coach K and the rest of his program are very careful about the NCAA regulations. Everyone would love to see Duke go down, so you know they keep an extra eye on them. Those aligations are just rumors, and I can guarentee you that the NCAA looked into that rumor(above) in 2003 and found it to be bogus/not violate NCAA regulations.
I have to agree with Hunter there - Duke is one of the major programs and obviously has its detractors. College sports entertain the most intense rivalries - it's not surprising that they spread lies about each other. I sincerely doubt that Duke or any other major program so blatantly violates the NCAA rules, unless there is an intricate conspiracy involved.
Rumors or not, this stuff goes on all the time. As long as the parties involved cover all of their tracks, then there's nothing that the NCAA can do about it. I have a friend that was promised (and recieved) a 2003 Toyota Camry for agreeing to play for a certain school. He was given $2000 up front for a down payment, and then put on the payroll of a company owned by an alumnist (getting paid the exact amount required for his car payment). The funny thing is: this is a DII school! Imagine what goes on at bigger schools.
J.J Reddick used drugs? In my mind, he probably could still be using drugs. Maybe he will so we can finally give Salim Stoudamire the credit he deserves for being the best shooter. I still believe basketball players need to be drug tested, not just baseball.
Im so sure! <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">REALITY: Those who have had brushes with the law the past two years include J.J. Redick (marijuana), Casey Sanders (assault), Reggie Love (DUI) and Chris Duhon (underage drinking).</div> <font size="2"><font face="Tahoma">Don't believe everything you read buddy, people are just trying to pull down Duke because not many people can seem to do it on the court.</font></font> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">J.J Reddick used drugs? In my mind, he probably could still be using drugs. Maybe he will so we can finally give Salim Stoudamire the credit he deserves for being the best shooter.</div> <font size="2"><font face="Tahoma">This is a basketball TEAM, it shouldnt matter who the best shooter is as long as someone scores...I dont know how anyone can say J.J.Reddick uses Marijauna anyway considering how consistant his shooting is.....sorry but people who use drugs have to fold or collapse at some point and he seems to still be going strong.</font></font>
What are you guys talking about? 1) Marijuana can't be compared to steroids as it is not performance enhancing. Maybe it enhances JJ's poetry, but his game is another matter. 2) People who use drugs have to fold or collapse at some point? We're talking about marijuana here. JJ can smoke a bowl here and there and as long as it's not near game or practice time it shouldn't have any impact.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Rumors or not, this stuff goes on all the time. As long as the parties involved cover all of their tracks, then there's nothing that the NCAA can do about it. I have a friend that was promised (and recieved) a 2003 Toyota Camry for agreeing to play for a certain school. He was given $2000 up front for a down payment, and then put on the payroll of a company owned by an alumnist (getting paid the exact amount required for his car payment). The funny thing is: this is a DII school! Imagine what goes on at bigger schools.</div> I dont think there is anything you can do about Booster programs, cause if you busted every school, there wouldnt be a school that wasn't caught. As for Steroids and Marijauna I think you read me wrong....I see what you are saying with Marijauna--"People who use drugs have to fold or collapse at some point? We're talking about marijuana here."--But as for other drugs ppl have been looking @Duke to make a little mistake at anytime.
I read an article about JJ Redick and the reported Drug use. It said in the article that in 2003 he was in a room where drugs had been used. He was caught for using them.
Well J.J. is a (lame) poet so it didn't surprise me when I found out that he did marijuana, which was a while ago. I knew about Duhon's mom getting a job. Carlos Boozer's father also got a job from some company run by a former Duke student as well. www.truthaboutduke.com http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/7217936
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fast Luck:</div><div class="quote_post"> JJ can smoke a bowl here and there and as long as it's not near game or practice time it shouldn't have any impact.</div>Sure, JJ can because he's a star basketball player. Any normal student would probably get tossed for that, which is weird because normal students actually pay to go there. If I'm the AD at a school like Duke, I'm going to make sure that my biggest investments aren't doing anything that could effect their play in a negative way.
what <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotPT:</div><div class="quote_post">J.J Reddick used drugs? In my mind, he probably could still be using drugs. Maybe he will so we can finally give Salim Stoudamire the credit he deserves for being the best shooter. I still believe basketball players need to be drug tested, not just baseball.</div> what does his alleged drug use have to do with his shooting ability? 98% of college students have tried marijuana at some point or another. So you guys are nailing him for not being in the 2%? cmon And about the boosters all the major schools have them and it goes on everywhere Duke is just being critisized becuase they are good and so many people hate them
First of all, why is Duke all of a sudden the golden standard for college basketball that everyone wants to aspire to be like? If I'm not mistaken, UCLA, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC, Connecticut, Michigan State, and Syracuse have just as good of a history as Duke does. This is a team that was barely a #1 seed. If they hadn't won the ACC tournament, they would have been a #2 seed. Of course, only being a #4-10 ranked team is nothing to be ashamed of, but howcome you never hear anyone from Illinois or Washington say "Everyone aspires to be like us"? Second of all, that statistic of 98% percent of college students trying marijuana is completely bogus. Hell, the whole campus at BYU is dry, as well as many schools around there. Besides, if that were a true fact, you'd expect the athletes of those schools to be the 2% who did not smoke marijuana. Third of all, I don't understand why people doubt that J.J. Redick smoked (or still does smoke) marijuana. The man recites poetry for God's sake. Everyone is just in denial and wants to believe that Duke is a perfect and infallible program that excells in academics, athletics, and ethics, so they live in denial and don't believe any of this bad publicity against Duke. When any of this stuff comes out, their first excuse is "I don't believe it. People are just jealous." Then when more evidence piles up, their excuse is, "It happens everywhere. Duke is not doing anything that doesn't go on everywhere else." I'm just sick of it. A handmade bong was found with Redick's stuff and a powerful smell of marijuana was coming out of the room. I don't care if he actually got arrested for smoking the weed. You'd have to be an idiot to not think that he did it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, why is Duke all of a sudden the golden standard for college basketball that everyone wants to aspire to be like? If I'm not mistaken, UCLA, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC, Connecticut, Michigan State, and Syracuse have just as good of a history as Duke does. This is a team that was barely a #1 seed. If they hadn't won the ACC tournament, they would have been a #2 seed. Of course, only being a #4-10 ranked team is nothing to be ashamed of, but howcome you never hear anyone from Illinois or Washington say "Everyone aspires to be like us"?</div> The reason why Duke gets more attention than everyone else is because all of their success is coming as recently as the late 80s to the present time. That is when the media coverage of NCAA ball really started to pick up and explode so Duke (as well as UNC) as received most of the good praises because their success is most recently in the memory of the average college bball fan. Also I would seriously contemplate putting Illinois with the class of UConn, Mich. St., Kentucky, etc. Their history isn't too shabby, either.
glencoe <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Second of all, that statistic of 98% percent of college students trying marijuana is completely bogus. Hell, the whole campus at BYU is dry, as well as many schools around there. Besides, if that were a true fact, you'd expect the athletes of those schools to be the 2% who did not smoke marijuana.</div> According to my health textbook (glencoe) by the time they finish college 98% of students have at some point tried marijuana. Why should the athletes be held to some unreasonable standard to have never even tried marijuana when 98% of the college students have. Personally I never have but to expect the hold team to be in that 2% is ridicolous.
I don't know about JJ,I knew an athlete who smoked some weed,also won an Olympic Gold,had a world record. I assume he didn't puff all day long. 98% is off,but 88% is probably close. A lot of people,being moderate,smoke it and do just fine. It wasn't long ago that crack was being used a lot by athletes-that is vastly more of a concern. Duke ,being an annual power with a star coach does not need to risk scandals,they get a few hs All Americas each year anyhow. Duke,however,is seperate from their alumni. A university ought to attempt to prevent alumni from bending rules,but how can they tell? Sometimes there are obvious clues,sometimes not.
