8Chuck, personally I think it is cool that you are doing this experiment. I am definitely fine with you using the information. If you are who you say you are. Post a link to the article when its done. I hope to see at least one person's quote from here.(It would prove it) I'd like to see what the results are in the article.
I am going to say the most hated not by me but by the world are: PG- Allen Iverson SG- Kobe Bryant SF- Ron Artest PF- Chris Webber C- Brad Miller
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phantom Balla:</div><div class="quote_post">Why Brad Miller?</div> yea lol, that is the first time that he was listed. Yao, has been commonly on a lot of lists. Shaq sometimes, b/c the Laker fans dislike his jokes, which are childish. So far I have never heard Brad Miller though.
haha that article's awesome Thanks for sticking my quote in there. It means a lot more especially since its about vince
Hate is such a strong word but I would have to say I really Dislike.. Allen Iverson! I give him credit he is an amazing offensive player, but boy what a ball hog?? and Come and AI your suppose to be helping your team not racking up 60 points per game!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CeltixQueen:</div><div class="quote_post">and Come and AI your suppose to be helping your team not racking up 60 points per game!</div> If he scores 60 points and helps his team win, it doesn't really matter. It is also very impressive to score 60 points and usually when Iverson scores that much he isn't taking bad shots.
Hi again, folks. I tried posting a link to the article, but your moderators saw it fit to remove it, despite that it advertised nothing. If you'd like to see the resulting article, you can find it on the front page of HoopsVibe.com. Many of you who have commented in this thread will find that you've been quoted in the piece. Thanks again for all your help. - C.Y.
Kobe is the most hated man in the NBA at the moment and he has been for the past year. Vince is also hated aswell. If it was up to me, this would be my most hated team: PG- Dwayne Wade SG- Allen Iverson SF- None PF- Karl Malone before he retired C- Shaquille O'Neal(I don't really hate him but he's my most hated C)
I'd like to thank you all for your help. I can't tell you my name or the address of the article produced as a result of your assistance, but I'm sure I can thank you without the intervention of your excitable moderators. I have sent a private message to SkiptoMyLue11 with a link to the piece, so if you would like to read it, please ask him to be directed to it. I apologise for not being able to show you the product of your efforts, but each time I attempt to do so, my message is deleted. For the record, I used quotes from the following members of this forum: bronbron23 SkipToMyLue11 spawn elijahser raptors4life So, to those particular users, and to all of you who voted, many thanks. Again, I apologise for not being able to direct you to the article.
PG-Baron Davis SG-Jamal Crawford SF- Paul Pierce PF- Tim Duncan C- Marcus Camby Hated Hall of Fame: Karl Malone
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">If he scores 60 points and helps his team win, it doesn't really matter. It is also very impressive to score 60 points and usually when Iverson scores that much he isn't taking bad shots.</div> True, when you have a guy that scores 60 points in a game its not very often that you loose.. But it seems as if it is more important to Allen Iverson's to score 60 points than to get his team mates invloved.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting onechina:</div><div class="quote_post">PG-Baron Davis SG-Jamal Crawford SF- Paul Pierce PF- Tim Duncan C- Marcus Camby Hated Hall of Fame: Karl Malone</div> Out of curiosity, why Paul Pierce?
Re: Paul Pierce I needed a SF, he's a prima donna, I don't like his body language, he thinks his team can only win if they do things his way and he's considered to be a frachise player but he's a poor leader. Actually though, I don't hate him. So let me retract my vote in favor of Keith Van Horn who I truly and completely loath (he slipped my mind when I posted before).
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">True, when you have a guy that scores 60 points in a game its not very often that you loose.. But it seems as if it is more important to Allen Iverson's to score 60 points than to get his team mates invloved.</div> From what I remember when Iverson scored those 60 points against the Orlando Magic on February 12th, the 76ers did win the game. And things are not like how it used to be when Iverson got a thrill out of scoring 40+ points and still losing. Iverson has scored over the 40 point plateau nine times this season, and when he has the 76ers have an 8-1 record. Which is pretty darn good if you ask me. The old A.I would probably post a 5-3 record within a span of games that he scored 40+ points, but the Iverson that vowed to be leader in the offseason is posting a pretty good ratio whenever he has a 40+ point night. And not to mention, that one loss comes off that Utah Jazz game, in which he got fouled in the last second and Sixers lost by just three points. Granted that he was in the game, he would have probably forced it to overtime, and probably have won the game in there. And as footnote, during those times he has gone over 40+ points, he also averaging 7.6 assists which is basically at his season average which shows that he getting them involved equally as much as if he was scoring just 25-30 point night. And as far Iverson wanting to score more rather than get his teammates involved is exactly the reason why, now days he shy away when he's approaching a 50+ point game because of the criticism that he would receive, similar to what you're doing. He made a comment sometime ago during a post game interview, saying something to the likes of NOT wanting to score so much points because he will receive the same criticism he got earlier in his career, and while Iverson has made it clear that he don't care what the media says about him that stuff get into his teammates head and they may look at him differently. Thus that is why he often tries to avoid scoring such huge numbers. And what you said is a perfect example, about him scoring 60 points losing. Let me tell you the thing with Iverson... If someone scores 60 point and lose, you would think ?Wow, he scored 60 points and still lost? Wow he must either be ball hog or his team just really sucks.? But in this case this is Allen Iverson, a player who has a ball hog history, thus that is why people look at him as a ball hog, rather than looking at his supporting cast. If you surrounded Iverson with the Pistons roster and he was scoring 60 points and losing, than even I would say ?yes? as in he is a ball hog because 60 points wouldn?t be necessary with those payers surrounding him. But take a look at the past and present supporting cast and ask yourself wouldn?t it be necessary if you HAD to score 40+ points? Just look at the players that?s been around him the past years, from the NBA Finals team which has a BUNCH of defensive players and not one real legitimate second scoring option, Iverson must have scored all those points, because if he didn?t who would? And when you look at this year team which is filled with young players such as Korver, Dalembert and so in which can?t even create they?re own shot unless if AI sets them up, Iverson has to score 30+ points a game in order for them to win. But back to what I was saying, and I?ll be a little more concise this time. If he scores 60 point and lose if make it seems as if he is only looking out for himself. BUT if he were to score 25 point and lose, people would just look at him and say that his team is bad. So you get what I?m saying? Just because he makes himself looks good with his individual stats and the team end up losing he will be looked upon as a ball hog, but if he as mediocre game and lose, he?s not a ball hog? Oh and as far as him shying away from 50 points game and such. Well a perfect example of him shying away from a big number game was in the game against the Milwaukee Bucks. With your typical Iverson, having 45 point at the end of third quarter would probably mean a 55 point game at the end of regulation, but that?s where you?re wrong. Now wouldn?t you think someone with a hot hand that?s has 45 points in the end of the third quarter wouldn?t score at least 50 by the end of the game? Well Iverson played the whole 12 minutes in the 4th quarter and how many shots did he take? Just one, in which was a three pointer that he MUST have take because he was o so open. I was surprised that he didn?t score 50, even the commentators were. And if you would just watch that game, you would have seen how bad the 76ers offense was looking without him scoring. They were so sluggish and the Bucks actually made a mini run, before he knocked down that three that said ?You?re getting a little to close for comfort?. Now it doesn?t sound much like Iverson to in a way ?change? his game because of the criticism but unfortunately that?s what he seems to be doing. But in a whole he has clearly expressed the fact that he?s not into getting big numbers any longer. Like he said before he would rather score twenty than thirty and win a game opposed to scoring thirty and losing. Oh and the thing that confuses me most about the whole issue of Iverson scoring big numbers, is that he gets so much ?hate? for his low FG% but yet when scores over 40+ points he often shoots over 50% and people criticize him because he has so much points. People need to realize that when he scores within the 25-30 point range, his FG% isn?t so high, but when he is having a good night and scores over 35+ points or such he is shooting the ball over 50% eight times out of ten. So when you look at the big picture and his APG season average and the fact that he the more double doubles this season (Points/Assists) than he had in his past five seasons combined, you would realize that he has made the adjustment to make his teammates better and get them more involved.
