Does anyone here miss Speedy Claxton?

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  1. openglfx

    openglfx JBB JustBBall Member

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    I sure do, I wish the guy was more durable. He sure works hard, and doesn't cause any trouble or chemistry problems with the team at all. A true baller. I mean man, he can sure bust up any defense. Sure he was undersized but, he played good defense, had quick hands, could distribute the ball as well as anyone else. His midrange jumpshot has improved vastly. Only problem I saw was when larger people posted him up. Other than that, man was he a baller. Too bad he wouldn't come off the bench, or else it'd be nice to see him backup B Diddy for the W's.
     
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    I don't miss him much. I agree that he was a baller. He wasn't that great a pg, he doesn't find people like Davis.

    Personally I'd rather have Fisher when he is under control than Speedy. Fisher can hit the three, which Speedy can't do. Fisher can play the 2 guard better, cause he is bigger than speedy.

    I really hopes he finds another team to play on where he gets a chance. He gets shafted on every team he goes to. But he always proves he can play.

    In philly he had to compete with Iverson. They couldn't have two short guards in the back court. So naturally he gets traded.

    In SanAntonio he has to compete with Parker, who he out played in the Finals.

    In GS, he had to compete with Van Excel, and then Fisher. He beat both of them.

    In New Orleans he has to comepte with Dickau.
     
  3. geezy

    geezy JBB JustBBall Member

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    Speedy was my favorite Warrior. I'm a big fan of his. I love his game, his work ethic, his hustle, his demeanor and character. I felt bad that they traded him for Baron. I wanted Baron to come to the Warriors and was very happy to hear of his arrival. But, very disappointed that Speedy was a casualty as result of it. I wished they would have gotten rid of Fisher or Dunleavy instead. One's a no game having, money motivated, lucky shooting, flopper and the other is nothing but a glorified coach's son who's for some uknown reason to me some type of marketing darling, perhaps the "great white hope" syndrome. I think the W's would have been deadly with a Davis, Speedy, JRich, Murph, and Pietrus frontcourt. Speedy was able to get in the lane at will and was invaluable in breaking down defenses many a night. Yes, he was lacking in the 3pt range and his shot wasn't so reliable. But, it was evident that when he was given minutes he was able to produce significantly. So, he might have not had the long range, but he most definitely had the more highly efficient short range in contributing points. And don't sleep on his D either. Remember how he tortured GP and caused him to lose his head? Classic, though I got much respect for GP. So to answer the question...I miss Speedy most definitely.
     
  4. Warriorfansnc93

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    Speedy is a good individual player but you now have to see that there are only a few PGs who make their team mates better. Davis has to be ranked up there with Kidd and Nash right about now.
     
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    I love Speedy, but with Davis, I can't say I miss him much, since Davis is just better at almost all aspect of the game. And, I just don't think both Davis and Speedy can coexist. Really, Davis showed me an example why you need a PG, who can distributing the ball to players. But, I really hope for him the best, and it seems like he will start over Dickau, if today's starting means anything...
     
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    I feel bad for speedy. He's stuck in New Orleans but Baron Davis is legit! I do still miss Arenas though. Davis is a better point guard and a leader but I felt a bit of attachment to Gilbert. He came from nowhere, had great pride, went to the basket at will and seemed like a great kid. Watching him and Richardson was really great.
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I don't feel too bad for Speedy because he's got a championship ring and there was nothing against him as he wasn't a franchise player or the leader that Baron Davis is. Speedy knows it, but he's a professional much like Cliff Robinson that's he's always going to give it his total effort and show a good, positive attitude. He helped the Warriors in so many different ways defensively and breaking down defenses that New Orleans wanted him if they were going to get something for Baron Davis and rebuild their shattered organization. We needed a franchise player in order to move forward and that usually involves a player such as a passing/scoring/defensive all around big man or a point guard (the position that requires you to be all around). You can't keep defenses honest and help to spread that floor if defenders don't want to come out to you because they know you can't shoot that well from 20 feet out.

    He is a great backup point guard and was an above average starter when healthy, but Baron Davis is just pure dominance even at 70%. He's one of the best finishers and playmakers in the league that gives you a variety of options to score including the three ball and posting up fadeaway jumper against smaller guards like Arenas used to do. Plus, he's got a better crossover and doesn't get muscled off the ball. In fact he muscles other guards while moving with the ball and they just bounce off him.
     
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    Speedy could outquick most matchups,and as others note he had a plus attitude,but N.O. also saw him as a beter aquisition than Fish who,from their angle,was older with a fat contract.
     
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    yeah i miss him, I wish he was our backup pg instead of Fish.
     
  10. .cabangbang

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jzblaze:</div><div class="quote_post">yeah i miss him, I wish he was our backup pg instead of Fish.</div>

    If that were to have happened, Bostjan Nachbar or Chris Andersen would be Warriors. Which would mean Biedrins would be seeing lots less time. However, I would rather have Speedy than Fisher any day of the week
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">If that were to have happened, Bostjan Nachbar or Chris Andersen would be Warriors. Which would mean Biedrins would be seeing lots less time. However, I would rather have Speedy than Fisher any day of the week</div>

    How would Bostjan Nachbar or Chris Anderson be on the Warriors if that happend. I don't understand.


    EDIT never mind I am stupid. Becuase they would need to make the salary cap work, right?

    Anyways the trade would never happen if we didnt trade speedy.

    I wouldnt want to give up Pietrus or a draft pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">How would Bostjan Nachbar or Chris Anderson be on the Warriors if that happend. I don't understand.


    EDIT never mind I am stupid. Becuase they would need to make the salary cap work, right?

    Anyways the trade would never happen if we didnt trade speedy.

    I wouldnt want to give up Pietrus or a draft pick.</div>

    Giving up Pietrus would be horrible. If we traded Dunleavy, Fisher, Foyle for Davis + Andersen, I'd be happy when this happened with a buyout to DD
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">If that were to have happened, Bostjan Nachbar or Chris Andersen would be Warriors. Which would mean Biedrins would be seeing lots less time. However, I would rather have Speedy than Fisher any day of the week</div>

    Oh yeah Im just sayin that without taking into account the contracts. Just got back from the game and Fish just hoists up too many jumpers for my liking.
     
  14. .cabangbang

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jzblaze:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh yeah Im just sayin that without taking into account the contracts. Just got back from the game and Fish just hoists up too many jumpers for my liking.</div>

    Yes of course. Fisher does it to me every night
     
  15. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    The key to Fisher's succcess as a Warrior depends on how many of us fans call him out for shooting too many ill advised jumpers on a game to game basis. Then he starts getting assists, making the extra pass and actually making those ill advised 3's. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">The key to Fisher's succcess as a Warrior depends on how many of us fans call him out for shooting too many ill advised jumpers on a game to game basis. Then he starts getting assists, making the extra pass and actually making those ill advised 3's. [​IMG]</div>
    Yes. I still find it hard to believe he got 10 assists in a game though. But hey I'm not complaining
     
  17. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Well I wish we had Luke Ridnour off the bench, but Fisher's got guts which is good sometimes for when you need a scoring point guard who is money off the set shot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I wish we had Luke Ridnour off the bench, but Fisher's got guts which is good sometimes for when you need a scoring point guard who is money off the set shot.</div>
    That would be awesome. Then when we play small we rule!!
     

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