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  1. porky88

    porky88 King of Kings

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    I wouldn't call him the best at what he does. He is one of the BEST. No doubt about that though.
     
  2. Eagles4Life

    Eagles4Life He Hate Me

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    As long as Joe Banner has been here, Eagle have never cut a player due to salary cap troubles. In fact, the only reason why their cap number is so high every year, is that they almost never have any dead money on their cap, cause they almost never cut players before their contract are up, unless the player is underperforming by alot (Nate Wayne is the only one I can think of). Not bad for a team that's been to 4 straight NFC championship games.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>As long as Joe Banner has been here, Eagle have never cut a player due to salary cap troubles. In fact, the only reason why their cap number is so high every year, is that they almost never have any dead money on their cap, cause they almost never cut players before their contract are up, unless the player is underperforming by alot (Nate Wayne is the only one I can think of). Not bad for a team that's been to 4 straight NFC championship games.</div>

    Has his system produced, say a champion? Then probably not best.
     
  4. porky88

    porky88 King of Kings

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    Thats why the Patroits have the BEST front office in the league.
     
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    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>FYI...Eagles only owe TO about 2.5 mil in signing bonuses, the rest is a roster bonus he recieves if he makes the team this year.</div>

    Ive searched all over the net and every story I have found indicated that the Eagles paid out just over $10 mil in signing bonus to TO last year....if thats true, then they would take a massive hit if they part ways with him....it has nothing to do with what they still owe him or what payments are scheduled as future roster bonuses....basically, take whatever he got as signing bonus last year and divide by 5(the max number of years the hit can be spread over according to the CBA), subtract that number from the total he got and thats the ammount they would have accelerate onto thier cap immediately upon his departure....they would have the option to apply half the charge to next years cap, but at soem point, it will be dead money....its unavoidable....
     
  6. Eagles4Life

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    Eagles did not spread that money over 5 years, all of the bonus for him came out of last years cap. I believe when they started the last year they had close to 25 - 30 mil under the cap, TO's Bonus came all out of that, I believe Kearse's contract was spread out (16+ mil signing bonus) and cutting him would be a cap suicide. Also, his signing bonus was in such a way that to get the rest of it he has to make the team next season. And even better, Eagles can take away the 2.5 mil of his signing bonus for missing mandatory practice (which he has already). They made his contract full proof, so that if he does this shit they would not be handicapped for a long time.

    Being the best front office is not all about Championships. Was the front office of the Pats resposible for the "tuck" fumble call. Sometimes being a champion is getting the right brakes. Eagles are better with the cap then the Pats, they also have more "superstars" under contract as can be seen by the number of Pro-Bowl players every year. But the Pats win, so what can I say. If the Pats front office thought Tom Brady was this good, they would not have waited till the 6th round to draft him [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles did not spread that money over 5 years, all of the bonus for him came out of last years cap. I believe when they started the last year they had close to 25 - 30 mil under the cap, TO's Bonus came all out of that, I believe Kearse's contract was spread out (16+ mil signing bonus) and cutting him would be a cap suicide. Also, his signing bonus was in such a way that to get the rest of it he has to make the team next season. And even better, Eagles can take away the 2.5 mil of his signing bonus for missing mandatory practice (which he has already). They made his contract full proof, so that if he does this shit they would not be handicapped for a long time.

    Being the best front office is not all about Championships. Was the front office of the Pats resposible for the "tuck" fumble call. Sometimes being a champion is getting the right brakes. Eagles are better with the cap then the Pats, they also have more "superstars" under contract as can be seen by the number of Pro-Bowl players every year. But the Pats win, so what can I say. If the Pats front office thought Tom Brady was this good, they would not have waited till the 6th round to draft him [​IMG] [​IMG]</div>

    What the eagles front office responsable for putting together the last 4 teams that have won 0 championships(tied with 30 other NFL front offices)? Yes. Do they have more pro bowlers? Yes. Does the best players always get to go to pro bowl? No. If the patriots front office thought brady was that good but knew no one was going to draft him so they could get him in 6th round would they have waited? YES. Try some good arguments to prove your front office is better. P.S. Tuck rule won a divisional playoff game, they still won every other playoff game and the super bowl without a tuck rule call. and then 2 other super bowls without tuck rule call, including one vs a team the eagles front office put together.
     
  8. DP

    DP He shoots, he scores!

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    great facts
     
  9. porky88

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    waiting tell the 6th rnd to draft Tom Brady. So do you believe your Eagles front office is better than the Patriots. The Pats have the best front office in football. They fill holes through the draft. They trade for great players. Oh yeah They win SUPER BOWLS. Something the Eagles just can't quite get a hold of. The Patroits are Champions. The Eagles are Choke artist.
     
  10. Eagles4Life

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    That is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. The Front Office is not responsible for winning, the coaching staff and players are. Lets see, the Patriots won the first Super Bowl and didnt even make the playoffs the following year. Eagles offensive MVP (McNabb) went down in 2002 and they still got to the NFC Championship. Just look at the Eagles, they have one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are consistently have the most cap room in the NFL. Sure they have not won, and thats tough. But every year of the last 5 they have been there, and were only few plays away. Patriots are a great team, u saying that they waiting till the 6th round to draft Tom Brady cause they knew noone was going to take him is play moronic. If they really knew Tom Brady would be that good, they would have taken him early. Sometimes teams get lucky in the draft, and there is nothing wrong with that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>That is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. The Front Office is not responsible for winning, the coaching staff and players are. Lets see, the Patriots won the first Super Bowl and didnt even make the playoffs the following year. Eagles offensive MVP (McNabb) went down in 2002 and they still got to the NFC Championship. Just look at the Eagles, they have one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are consistently have the most cap room in the NFL. Sure they have not won, and thats tough. But every year of the last 5 they have been there, and were only few plays away. Patriots are a great team, u saying that they waiting till the 6th round to draft Tom Brady cause they knew noone was going to take him is play moronic. If they really knew Tom Brady would be that good, they would have taken him early. Sometimes teams get lucky in the draft, and there is nothing wrong with that.</div>

    Ok, so the players and coaches are responsible for championships, who is responsible for hiring right coaches, and getting them right personel? Oh yeah, front office. Sorry eagles do not have best front office, though they have distinguished themselves to be slightly better than 29 other teams front offices. Ultimately, 0 championships over last 5 years tied with 29 other teams for last place
     
  12. porky88

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    Brady was a lucky pick no doubt about it. I am sure if the Pats new the future they would of taken him a little earlier but you can't call the Eagles front office the BEST. You can make an argument for the Pats with the SB's. The Packers the winnest team in the last 10 years. NE front office put together a great coaching staff and organization. Philly has a dam good one as well. When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter about who has the better Front office or owner. It comes down to the W and right now the Pats have the biggest W you can get in the game. A SB.
     
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    Over last 10 years, you have to say packers have better front office than eagles, they produced champion. Just like bucs and denver, and rams, all better front offices over last 10 years
     
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    Hard to say. I would say GB and Denver for sure because they have continued to be winning teams. The Rams have fell of a little bit as teh Bucs but you could easily make that argument.
     
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    panthersare#1 The GM

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    The broncos have always stayed as playoff caliber team just like GB, the broncos did it because they can throw pretty much any back and the back get 1200 yards
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Front Office is not responsible for winning, the coaching staff and players are.</div>

    I think we have reached a new high in lows. The Front office is responsible for setting up everything up so a team can be successful.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'> The Front Office is not responsible for winning, the coaching staff and players are.</div>

    I think we have reached a new high in lows. The Front office is responsible for setting up everything up so a team can be successful.</div>

    nicely put.
     

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