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  1. Warriorfansnc93

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    Convince Chaney not to pick up player option

    Pick up White's team option for $2m. You never know who could get injured and White could provide some cheap scoring punch and trade bait for the deadline

    Drop Skita unless he signs for near what his rookie contract is or let him go back to Europe like we did with Marc Jackson

    Do not re sign Dunleavy to an extension. Let him play out his last year of the contract and discuss next season...

    Do not trade anyone on this team unless we get an offer we can not refuse like the Baron Davis trade

    Draft the best available player where we are at. Do not trade down, do not trade up, just stay put and let the best player fall in our lap. Do not worry if someone is a reach or if they could have been available at #20

    Everyone come in after resting and healing up, work hard on strength and conditioning

    Play as a team and develop better defensive skills

    I know it is uneventful, but that is how I think this offseason is going to play out. I do not believe the article about how Mullin is going to pull off some major off season trade
     
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    Once I did the offseason plan, everyone started to do the same... anywho... this is pretty good.

    I think we should keep Cheaney and Skita instead of Whiite. White is a black hole and never passes. Cheaney is needed for leadershio and mentoring the young guys. Skita never really had much of a chance to find a spot with us. He will during the summer and I've heard he is a great shooter. Even his teammates say it.

    Other than that I like it.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I think this sounds like the course of action to take. The draft seems deeper than what was anticipated (plenty of things to do in terms of trades on Draft day and valuable talent to hold on to). The Warriors team chemistry looked pretty solid going into the offseason and everyone is under contract and enjoys playing together and winning. I hope we just wait on Dun and try to keep all 3 of our FA players next season guessing who will start. If Dun isn't Larry Bird-like by next season, just let him walk or give him to some team in a sign and trade deal for draft picks or a short term veteran. I really don't think he's worth a qualifying offer of 6 year, 42-48 mil a year, but we'll see how he does next season as he will probably be working hard for the money and get a shot at impressing in the playoffs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">Once I did the offseason plan, everyone started to do the same... anywho... this is pretty good.

    I think we should keep Cheaney and Skita instead of Whiite. White is a black hole and never passes. Cheaney is needed for leadershio and mentoring the young guys. Skita never really had much of a chance to find a spot with us. He will during the summer and I've heard he is a great shooter. Even his teammates say it.

    Other than that I like it.</div>

    Yeah, I figured instead of ripping on other people's threads I would just write my own gripes here.

    Cheaney would be ok if he stayed here, but the thing is White is a big strong forward. Cheaney is a 2 guard, we do not need him with Pietrus in the wings. He took enough PT from Pietrus as it was. Skita has already said he wants to go to Europe. I would not mind keeping him at a reasonable price like $2.5m/year but he really needs to do some work and get some confidence.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I think this sounds like the course of action to take. The draft seems deeper than what was anticipated (plenty of things to do in terms of trades on Draft day and valuable talent to hold on to). The Warriors team chemistry looked pretty solid going into the offseason and everyone is under contract and enjoys playing together and winning. I hope we just wait on Dun and try to keep all 3 of our FA players next season guessing who will start. If Dun isn't Larry Bird-like by next season, just let him walk or give him to some team in a sign and trade deal for draft picks or a short term veteran. I really don't think he's worth a qualifying offer of 6 year, 42-48 mil a year, but we'll see how he does next season as he will probably be working hard for the money and get a shot at impressing in the playoffs.</div>

    Yeah, I agree. If Dun can build on his play after the All star break this year, he may be worth keeping around. At the same time, if Pietrus breaks out like he did the last few games also, I say the sign and trade is a great option I never thought about. But lets cross that bridge next off season. This is about this off season. Let him play for the contract and negotiate reasonable terms.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I figured instead of ripping on other people's threads I would just write my own gripes here.

    Cheaney would be ok if he stayed here, but the thing is White is a big strong forward. Cheaney is a 2 guard, we do not need him with Pietrus in the wings. He took enough PT from Pietrus as it was. Skita has already said he wants to go to Europe. I would not mind keeping him at a reasonable price like $2.5m/year but he really needs to do some work and get some confidence.</div>
    Skita is good. White is not. White is a ballhog. He might be worth something, but to me it is a bag of chips. He is athletic and a good baller, but he brings a horrible attitude which is ME ME ME ME ME. Also when we got the win against the Lakers, the whole bench was standing up and White, he is down doing a mopey man impersination
     
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    I say let White walk, try to get Cheany to pick up the option, and try to resign Skita. White is a black hole who wants to go back to Denver, while Skita likes Golden State and can shoot and knows when to pass. If Monty keeps playing Cheany and Fisher before of Pietrus fire his dumb-ass. I like Cheany and Fish but Montgomery has to realize that Pietrus should be our 6th man this year, he deserves it after his play down the stretch and I'm pretty sure the two veterans realize this as well.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that i like the idea of staying almost the same but I think we have a great opportunity this offseason to improve and we should take it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">I say let White walk, try to get Cheany to pick up the option, and try to resign Skita. White is a black hole who wants to go back to Denver, while Skita likes Golden State and can shoot and knows when to pass. If Monty keeps playing Cheany and Fisher before of Pietrus fire his dumb-ass. I like Cheany and Fish but Montgomery has to realize that Pietrus should be our 6th man this year, he deserves it after his play down the stretch and I'm pretty sure the two veterans realize this as well.</div>
    That is what Monty should have done. Instead he didn't play Pietrus as much as he should have. sometimes I feel that if we had started Pietrus over Cheaney when J-Rich was injured, we might have made the playoffs or caught up to lots of the teams
     
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    I just hope we do whatever it takes to keep Pietrus happy and keep his value low so we don't have to match.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I just hope we do whatever it takes to keep Pietrus happy and keep his value low so we don't have to match.</div>
    Amen. I think Pietrus is a future star and at this rate, I believe he has more potential then Dunleavy. Sometimes it looks like he should be ready to start over Dunleavy...
     
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    I hope he is happy too. He doesn't seem unhappy but I bet he will want to start in the next few years.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope he is happy too. He doesn't seem unhappy but I bet he will want to start in the next few years.</div>
    I think we should let Dunleavy walk just to keep Pietrus at this point. He is ready to start. He could put up 15 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 spg, 3 apg in my opinion starting if he, B-Diddy, and J-Rich all work together with him
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">Convince Chaney not to pick up player option

    Pick up White's team option for $2m. You never know who could get injured and White could provide some cheap scoring punch and trade bait for the deadline

    Drop Skita unless he signs for near what his rookie contract is or let him go back to Europe like we did with Marc Jackson

    Do not re sign Dunleavy to an extension. Let him play out his last year of the contract and discuss next season...

    Do not trade anyone on this team unless we get an offer we can not refuse like the Baron Davis trade

    Draft the best available player where we are at. Do not trade down, do not trade up, just stay put and let the best player fall in our lap. Do not worry if someone is a reach or if they could have been available at #20

    Everyone come in after resting and healing up, work hard on strength and conditioning

    Play as a team and develop better defensive skills

    I know it is uneventful, but that is how I think this offseason is going to play out. I do not believe the article about how Mullin is going to pull off some major off season trade</div>

    Pretty much agree, except it would take a miracle for Cheaney to not to pick up the option [​IMG]

    Also, I would look to trade Dunleavy for right price, simply because of future salary structure. However, I won't simply dump it for the sake of Pietrus, because next year is very crucial for the club, and we need every help we can get.

    White isn't exactly happy being with us, and I don't mind Warriors not picking his option either. Skita is as good as gone...
     
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    I don't think Pietrus is a full time forward, but it would definitely be fun if he knows when to share the ball and when to shoot or when to drive to create for himself or for others. That is Pietrus's biggest problem. He makes up his mind beforehand, rather than reacting to what the defense is giving him.
     
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    I actually thought I heard barnett say Cheaney was considering retiring but who knows. Rodney White should be let go. No point in keeping a player who doesn't want to be here and isn't on the same page as the rest of the team. Otherwise I agree with everything else. Im still curious to see what we do with the trade exemption, I think some sort of trade will happen this offseason. How much value could we get in return for our #1 pick and the exemption? Would it be enough to get another big like Nene? Or what if we picked up White's option and packaged him in the trade since he wants to be back in Denver anyway.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">Skita is good. White is not. White is a ballhog. He might be worth something, but to me it is a bag of chips. He is athletic and a good baller, but he brings a horrible attitude which is ME ME ME ME ME. Also when we got the win against the Lakers, the whole bench was standing up and White, he is down doing a mopey man impersination</div>

    Skita has not show us anything up to this point but who can blame the guy since he has not got consistent PT. I think he can be good. I agree with you that white is a black hole and would rather play in Denver. I say if he wants to be here, keep him, otherwise let him walk.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">I say let White walk, try to get Cheany to pick up the option, and try to resign Skita. White is a black hole who wants to go back to Denver, while Skita likes Golden State and can shoot and knows when to pass. If Monty keeps playing Cheany and Fisher before of Pietrus fire his dumb-ass. I like Cheany and Fish but Montgomery has to realize that Pietrus should be our 6th man this year, he deserves it after his play down the stretch and I'm pretty sure the two veterans realize this as well.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that i like the idea of staying almost the same but I think we have a great opportunity this offseason to improve and we should take it.</div>

    I could care less about Cheaney, maybe we can keep Skita, let White and Cheaney go so Skita can get more PT...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">Amen. I think Pietrus is a future star and at this rate, I believe he has more potential then Dunleavy. Sometimes it looks like he should be ready to start over Dunleavy...</div>

    If we keep Dunleavy, I almost would be tempted to start Pietrus by the All Star break. I think we need to give Dunleavy a fair shot, but if he does not play well and Pietrus keeps scoring 28pts in 20 mins then maybe he needs to start. Although Pietrus should most definately at least be the 6th man of the year in the league if not starting...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting UltimateWarrior:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually thought I heard barnett say Cheaney was considering retiring but who knows. Rodney White should be let go. No point in keeping a player who doesn't want to be here and isn't on the same page as the rest of the team. Otherwise I agree with everything else. Im still curious to see what we do with the trade exemption, I think some sort of trade will happen this offseason. How much value could we get in return for our #1 pick and the exemption? Would it be enough to get another big like Nene? Or what if we picked up White's option and packaged him in the trade since he wants to be back in Denver anyway.</div>

    We dont want Nene. He is worst than Foyle...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">We dont want Nene. He is worst than Foyle...</div>

    You care to expand on that? I havn't seen him play probally as much as you since you live out there but I heard he's got good potential so Im curious why you say he's so bad.
     

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