How 'bout dem Wizards?

Wiz Kidz 4-2 . Hands down. Period.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AntyMcJameJame:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey ObieCent you, Andres Nocioni, and the Baby Bulls are a piece o' crap</div>
Congratulations on that quality, well thought out, informative, descriptive, explanatory, superb, wonderful, first-class, first-rate post. You really know how to argue!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting justbball:</div><div class="quote_post">
"da Wiz Kidz" will go down in 5
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The series is already over... (unless you mean the Heat series)

 

ANtyMcJameJame dont be so happy....watch dem wiz kidz get sweeped off the court

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AntyMcJameJame:</div><div class="quote_post">Wiz Kidz 4-2 . Hands down. Period.</div>

Why don't you repeat yourself a few more times. And like Obie said, great quality. Never seen any better in my life . Please, if you're going to make a prediction, at least state why. It sure would be nice if you ask me.

Personally, I see the Wizards out in 5. Right now, they're playing terrible (shooting 19%), and are losing despite the fact that Shaq has 2 fouls. They haven't been able to finish and aren't stopping Miami, as Miami has been getting whatever they want. If they even want to take this one to 6, they may want to learn some "D", finish a shot, and make a shot while they're at it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Right, right, assuming he plays and Curry and Deng don't. That's fair </div>
I was being sarcastic if you didn't catch that one


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He improved his defense before his heart problem. Also, we were getting burned inside because none of our bigs have any mobility, and the ones that do don't have the height to guard Thomas and Haywood.</div>
Chandler seems to have both height and mobility, so I'm not too sure about that one, and Thomas? I can understand Haywood, but Thomas is not anything special himself, he's not the most mobile person out there.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Eddy may not be the best defender, but it seems he gets no credit whatsoever. He has done more defensively in the low post than Othella and AD all year long, and yet, because he doesn't put up consistent blocking numbers, he's all of a sudden not a good defender. </div>
Who said anything about blocks, he's also a weak rebounder, and everytime I've watched him he hasn't given me anything to praise him about with his man to man defense.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nocioni was feeling it that game. Maybe he wouldn't have put up the same numbers as his minutes would have gone down, but he would still have the same impact in the time given to him. And who knows, Deng could have had a big night as well.</div>
I'm saying their's no certainty, you can't say he'd have played the same in lesser minutes because he might not have had the same confidence, the same rythm, and Deng could've played a lot of minutes not allowing Nocioni to play too much at the Forward positions.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Was it the 7 point win, early in the season before we got our groove. We weren't in any rhythm until about 20 games into the season. I like how you hide those facts.</div>
It was actually right about when the Bulls started winning games, Gordon was settled at his role off the bench, Chandler and Nocioni were producing off the bench, and the starting lineup was made up of the guys that were winning the games this year for the Bulls.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's plain and simple. You guys had too many weapons. But we would be able to counter those with Curry and Deng. Deng is one of our better defenders, while Curry is not as bad as a post defender as everyone says. Deng could be thrown at Hughes to slow him down. We wouldnt have had to give Pike as much time as he played. Kirk wouldn't be tired on offense from guarding Hughes. Ben wouldn't have to be guarding Hughes. Deng and Curry would have provided a total 28 points and 10 rebounds a game. Deng is the better offensive player than Nocioni. Curry is the better offensive player than Harrington. Curry is a better post defender than Harrington.</div>
Pike was only playing 13.2 MPG, up what, 1 minute from his season average? I don't think Skiles would've put Deng on Hughes, that would still have one of the small guards on Jared Jefferies, which is also a reason why the Bulls struggled because he was always on the offensive glass whenever those small backcourt lineups came in. Deng is good and long, but he's not quick enough to check Hughes, and I just don't see it as being a good move at all. I'm not saying the Bulls had no chance of winning, I'm saying their was 0 certainty that the Bulls would win, just because they had Deng and Curry back. The Wizards with their fully healthy lineup were just as good a team, maybe better, and the Wizards have had a lot of key injuries all year, more so than the Bulls. Hughes [21], Jamison [14], Haywood [14], Kwame [40], Dixon [19], Thomas [35], and Hayes [24] all missed a fair amount of games for the Wizards.

The Bulls had Curry [19], Deng [21], Othella [12], and AD [10], I don't know if Piatkowski was injured or just getting DNP-CD's, but I'd guess the latter, and he's not really a key player.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Does everything make sense now?</div>

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Chandler seems to have both height and mobility, so I'm not too sure about that one, and Thomas? I can understand Haywood, but Thomas is not anything special himself, he's not the most mobile person out there. </div>
He has height and mobility, but he's so weak in the post. He attempts to box people out, but due to his lack of strength, he can't stop bigger players from getting the offensive board. I remember Game 3 namely, Etan Thomas had 5 offensive rebounds. He scored 20 points. I don't remember the exact stat, but i'm guessing 7-10 of those points came from offensive rebounds. Curry, who may be a weak rebounder, him and his size alone would probably help us control the paint on defense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Who said anything about blocks, he's also a weak rebounder, and everytime I've watched him he hasn't given me anything to praise him about with his man to man defense. </div>
You don't need to praise him. He doesn't deserve praise for what he does, because he could do much better. What I'm saying is that he gets no respect whatsoever. Everyone bashes his defense while it is not as good as it should be, it's better than what most say.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm saying their's no certainty, you can't say he'd have played the same in lesser minutes because he might not have had the same confidence, the same rythm, and Deng could've played a lot of minutes not allowing Nocioni to play too much at the Forward positions. </div>
I see what you're getting at. But that game I have reason to believe that he would play well. Noc is an emotional player and the crowd was really into that game. He plays intense basketball every minute he's in there, and he's been in big pressure situations. Yeah, there is no certainty, but more than likely he would have played well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It was actually right about when the Bulls started winning games, Gordon was settled at his role off the bench, Chandler and Nocioni were producing off the bench, and the starting lineup was made up of the guys that were winning the games this year for the Bulls. </div>
The last 4 games before that we went 2-2. That's better than what we were doing the first 9 games, but we still didn't have much chemistry. We really started winning games starting the 20th game of the season. Since then, we went 43-20. Maybe those guys started getting a hang of contributing, but we still couldn't finish games off until a while later.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Pike was only playing 13.2 MPG, up what, 1 minute from his season average? I don't think Skiles would've put Deng on Hughes, that would still have one of the small guards on Jared Jefferies, which is also a reason why the Bulls struggled because he was always on the offensive glass whenever those small backcourt lineups came in. Deng is good and long, but he's not quick enough to check Hughes, and I just don't see it as being a good move at all. I'm not saying the Bulls had no chance of winning, I'm saying their was 0 certainty that the Bulls would win, just because they had Deng and Curry back. The Wizards with their fully healthy lineup were just as good a team, maybe better, and the Wizards have had a lot of key injuries all year, more so than the Bulls. Hughes [21], Jamison [14], Haywood [14], Kwame [40], Dixon [19], Thomas [35], and Hayes [24] all missed a fair amount of games for the Wizards. </div>
I prefer it when Pike only plays the last 2 minutes in a blowout. He really does nothing for the team except hit a 3 ever few games. That's great and all if you arent a designated three point shooter.

On the Deng guarding Hughes - He probably wouldnt start off by doing it. But at points when he'd be on the floor with Griffin, Pike( ), or Nocioni, he'd probably guard Hughes. He would do a much better job than Kirk, I can tell you that much. And it isn't Kirks fault, he doesnt have the body to be able to guard Hughes.

The fact of the matter is, going into the playoffs, we were hurt more than you, and still made it a long series. You guys won. We lost. Nothing I say will revive the series. But my point is that if we had Curry and Deng, the series would more than likely go back and forth in a 7 game series, at the very least.

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I'm seeing a lot of eyes rolling

 

Hey i'm sorry Obie Cent about my comment

Secondly, the Bulls have won six NBA titles in the 90s. And the Wizards (or Bullets) have the second worst # of years in title deficits. So please we D.C. Fans deserved it. So please let me bask in my glory


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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">He has height and mobility, but he's so weak in the post. He attempts to box people out, but due to his lack of strength, he can't stop bigger players from getting the offensive board. I remember Game 3 namely, Etan Thomas had 5 offensive rebounds. He scored 20 points. I don't remember the exact stat, but i'm guessing 7-10 of those points came from offensive rebounds. Curry, who may be a weak rebounder, him and his size alone would probably help us control the paint on defense.

You don't need to praise him. He doesn't deserve praise for what he does, because he could do much better. What I'm saying is that he gets no respect whatsoever. Everyone bashes his defense while it is not as good as it should be, it's better than what most say.

I see what you're getting at. But that game I have reason to believe that he would play well. Noc is an emotional player and the crowd was really into that game. He plays intense basketball every minute he's in there, and he's been in big pressure situations. Yeah, there is no certainty, but more than likely he would have played well.

The last 4 games before that we went 2-2. That's better than what we were doing the first 9 games, but we still didn't have much chemistry. We really started winning games starting the 20th game of the season. Since then, we went 43-20. Maybe those guys started getting a hang of contributing, but we still couldn't finish games off until a while later.



I prefer it when Pike only plays the last 2 minutes in a blowout. He really does nothing for the team except hit a 3 ever few games. That's great and all if you arent a designated three point shooter.

On the Deng guarding Hughes - He probably wouldnt start off by doing it. But at points when he'd be on the floor with Griffin, Pike( ), or Nocioni, he'd probably guard Hughes. He would do a much better job than Kirk, I can tell you that much. And it isn't Kirks fault, he doesnt have the body to be able to guard Hughes.

The fact of the matter is, going into the playoffs, we were hurt more than you, and still made it a long series. You guys won. We lost. Nothing I say will revive the series. But my point is that if we had Curry and Deng, the series would more than likely go back and forth in a 7 game series, at the very least.


I'm seeing a lot of eyes rolling </div>
Okay, at least we're on the same page, I just don't like how some people say oh, if the Bulls had Deng and Curry, they would've won. Their is no certainty in that, the Wizards are not some pushover team, so that just annoys me.