<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">yea but isnt mobley a ballhoggeR? i dont think hewoul work into our system seeing as he hates the organization for whats they have done.</div> Why would he hate the organization? Trading him was purely business since both parties needed a change and it obviously worked. In fact, I don't remember where but I heard Mobley expressing that he would like to return if he had the chance.
I'm all for bringing Mobley back. I don't think it's our biggiest need, but having him back would help a lot IMO. I don't think he'd have any problem giving up the ball with a T-Mac on his team. He would improve our rebounding and he can shoot OPEN jumpers really well.
If mobley would be content on being a role player who hits open 3's and jumpers, I actually wouldn't mind bringing him back.......plus he can play defense......but I don't think our MCE is enough to get him signed.
How would we aquire him though, because i dont think he is a free agent. Here is a list of all the free agents. http://realgm.com/src_freeagents/
maybe if we can get mobley, we can use him as a trade option for kidd? which would you rather have in our team? mobley or jkidd?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">mobley or jkidd?</div> Mobley, because his contract is smaller and he's younger than Kidd, who is becoming more and more injury prone and ineffective.
First and foremost, I think if Jason Kidd wants out of NJ and wants in Houston, Carroll and Les need to see what NJ wants, and if it is reasonable... HOWEVER, I like our backcourt how it is...I like James, Sura and Barry...I think our offseason priorities should be a scoring swingman, in the 6'6" mold, preferably a slasher who can also defend...we also need a solid, rebounding force at the 4, such as a PJ Brown or Tyson Chandler...I think our keepers are Yao, TMac, Sura, Barry, james, Deke and I would also like to see Howard return, preferably as a backup...But I love this team, and I think they have an identity and style that fans have embraced...the core needs to stay and others such as Wesley, Weatherspoon, Norris, baker and maybe Bowen are expendable...
I don't know if he is available but what would you guys think of Kenny Thomas. He is small but very athletic and can hit the wide open jumpers that he will definately get in this offense. If you noticed in the Mavericks series they would cheat off of Bowen and Deny Yao the ball because they knew bowen could not hit the open J. 12.4 ppg 7.3 rpg 2.1 apg
Guys can we stop the ridiculous talks about bringing J.Kidd in Houston.... I've said it before in another thread.. JKidd will NOT be as effective of a player in Houston as he is in NJ. Our playing style is too different. We play strictly half court games while Jason is at his best on breakaways, feeding high fliers (which Houston doesn't have.. except Tmac..). Kidd is also getting older, more expensive, and is a crappy shooter. He will be like a better Bobby Sura but 10x more expensive... Now that Jason's out of the picture, let's consider the 2 glaring holes in our team: We need a 3rd Scoring option & Tough, defensive, rebounding PF. Tyson has been mentioned many times and guys, let's be real now, he ain't goin nowhere. He's a major component of the baby bulls and there's like 1% chance of him coming to Houston.. Stromile Swift, although has 0 bball IQ and 0 jumpshot like someone mentioned, will bring athelticism, rebounding, and shot blocking into our team. He would be a perfect compliment to Yao. He lives on put back dunks and is a pretty good shot blocker, however, I think we still need another PF to back him up... Someone cheap, reliable, hustler.. someone like Eduardo Najera? Now I know u guys probably think I'm nuts for even throwing his name in but I really really like him. The guy hustles like crazy, fundamentally sound, tough, plays decent defense, what's not to like in him? He might not be able to score at all, but that's not what we're looking for in him anyways. We can probably look into Jerome James (who's gonna be an unrestricted FA), Darvin Ham and Michael Ruffin as well. Udonis Haslem would be ideal but I'm sure he'll get picked up because he's gonna be restricted. Anyways, these are tough rebounders that we badly need. Now for another scoring option... Let's look at some realistic, cheap scorers available this summer... JMac's gonna be unrestricted... Bobby Simmons (My fav Yes I'm a biased Clipper fan..), Dan Dickau, Eddie House.. anyone else?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">Guys can we stop the ridiculous talks about bringing J.Kidd in Houston.... I've said it before in another thread.. JKidd will NOT be as effective of a player in Houston as he is in NJ. Our playing style is too different. We play strictly half court games while Jason is at his best on breakaways, feeding high fliers (which Houston doesn't have.. except Tmac..). Kidd is also getting older, more expensive, and is a crappy shooter. He will be like a better Bobby Sura but 10x more expensive...</div> The thing that Jkidd can bring to us is to lift up some of the burden from t-mac. As you can see our setplays most of the time, if not always, goes through t-mac. It can really tires him. Jkidd can set a play, he can makes his team better. Just look at VC, i doubt that Jkidd doesnt have a significant contribution to his in-form performance. Even VC himself admit that. So i expect the same thing can happen to t-mac if jkidd is here. Moreover, he can bring variety to our offense, he runs fastbreak really well while the rockets really suck on fastbreak. he brings more speed to our backcourt. Furthermore, he is one of the best in the league in finding open teammates, it suits us really well because we have many spot-up shooters (barry, wesley, james, padgett) And jkidd is NOT an crappy shooter. He did shot poorly in NJ-miami series but i have an nba.tv so i occasionally watch nets game and trust me he shoots better than any of our backcourt. he can be our 3rd scoring option <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">Tyson has been mentioned many times and guys, let's be real now, he ain't goin nowhere. He's a major component of the baby bulls and there's like 1% chance of him coming to Houston..</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">Now for another scoring option... Let's look at some realistic, cheap scorers available this summer... JMac's gonna be unrestricted... Bobby Simmons (My fav Yes I'm a biased Clipper fan..), Dan Dickau, Eddie House.. anyone else?</div> I would really love to have chandler and dickau in our team. If we can get Dickau then the 3rd scoring option problem and the speedier backcourt problem is solved. And about chandler.. bulls frontcourt is packed with so many good players (curry, antonio davis, harrington, nocioni, luol deng) so maybe he is not satisfied with his role as a bench player? I certainly hope so..
whatever, Kidd has a 40% career FG%... That's why I think he's a crappy shooter.. I just think that we can find a better spot up shooting PG for cheaper than Jason cause he's also a big star, which means he'll be expensive. I do agree though that he'll run our sets better and take some pressure off, but we can do that with any decent guards like Dickau or something. Chandler I think is a starter in Chicago, I don't think they're developing him as a bench player. Harrington and Davis are getting old. I think for their starting front court they're thinking of having Tyson, Curry and Deng/Nocioni. Maybe we can grab Nocioni then? He has impressed me this year...
andres nocioni...pretty decent white boy....good shooting touch....goes aggressively after the ball in the Argentinian style of play...I would say he has enough upside that the bulls would want to keep him
We should try to go for spreewell as a good scorer and defender. If not him, mobley would also be perfect and could end up cheap with all the other 3s out this year. The only way i think we can get someone real good is by trading. Teams will take scrubs like weatherspoon, ward, norris, and baker because it frees up cap space for next season. when you look at it, i doubt chandler will settle for the MLE when chicago is probably giving out more. Why not get someone like wayne simien from the draft and put him in our rotation. Stromile Swift is perfect too.
My ideal lineup goes to SG: Jason Kidd PG: Jon Barry ( Cuttino Mobley if possible) SF: Tracy McGrady PF: Kelvin Cato C: Yao Ming 6er: Mike James If I were CD, I'd get those ppl at every cost.
Suprajames, i think its harder to get noc rather than chandler.. but yeah like you said, if we're real, its hard to get both of them. Jkidd indeed is expensive and we dont have anything to give to NJ, i was hoping a similar trade like the carter trade one, but i guess NJ's GM is not as stupid as toronto's. So if we're real, we should pursue swift and get a decent PF from draft.. Swift, Howard and whoever from the draft combine with bowen and padgett (if both of them stay with us next season) already creates a deep bench and rotation in our 4. And somebody was talking about Cato, how are we going to get him? because he's not on the list of FA. I dont think we have anything to offer to orlando in exchange for Cato. For our playmaker, dickau and jaric is the best option for now, or probably bobby jackson (But i dont really know how old he is). Mobley can be the perfect fit for our SG but isn't he also quite expensive? We can probably get a decent SG from the draft again, something like tony allen type. So our potential lineup is : PG : Dickau SG : Wesley again.. hiks SF : Tmac PF : Swift C : Yao Bench : Sura, Howard, James, Barry, Mutombo, Bowen, Padgett, the draft guy, the draft guy again.
I was thinkin about Bobby Jackson the other day, but he might be a little too expensive, plus he's been havin problems with injuries these last 2 seasons.....I was listenin to Jim Rome a while ago and he said that Kwame Brown wants to return to the wizards.
