<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Trade rumors begin One purported deal floating around Thursday has the Wolves dealing point guard Sam Cassell to Memphis for guard Jason Williams. Cassell, 35, averaged 13.5 points in an injury-riddled season and can be a free agent after next season. Williams, 29, is a career 39 percent shooter who averaged 10.1 points and 5.6 assists this season but had friction with the Grizzlies coaching staff. He is due to earn $7.5 million next season, with another $17.2 million due through 2007-08. </div> Link This would be a terrible move for the Grizzlies, in my opinion. Getting Cassell would be good for a team looking to improve in the short term. However, the most I can see the Grizzlies doing next year is reaching the second round. They won't have championship aspirations for a while. This is a problem because Cassell's contract comes off the books next year, and it will only give the Grizzlies about six million dollars in cap space. If I were the Grizzlies, I'd be shooting for a younger player with a longer contract than Cassell's.
From a Minnesota fan's viewpoint, I'm not sure if I would go for it either because I actually want to hang on to Cassell. Though, Cassell is getting older, when he actually is healthy he can be a definite difference maker in the game. I would like to keep him, get rid of Hudson, hang on to AC and draft a young pointguard in the draft. That's just my thinking. Your correct, in the short term, it may look good, but Cassell is aging and there will be some long term issues coming with him.
Horrible Move for Grizzlies if this happens. Sam, an old guy for J-Dub, who 1) is better than sam... 2) is alot younger 3) dont get Injurys
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NBAFan4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">Horrible Move for Grizzlies if this happens. Sam, an old guy for J-Dub, who 1) is better than sam... 2) is alot younger 3) dont get Injurys</div> Better than Sam hmmm....I know Sammy had his injuries last season but if you are comparing a healthy Sam Cassell to a healthy Jason Williams in no aspect is Williams better. I give that Williams looks to distribute the basketball a bit more. But Cassell still makes way more plays then him. Cassell can win you basketball games, when healthy. Jason Williams cant, he is a decent pg dont get me wrong. But nothing that can get a team pass the 1st round. And that is why the Griz would make such a move, they would be looking for someone who can lead them just a little bit further in the playoffs. By no means Iam I saying that the acquisition of Sammy will put the Grizz into Western Conference finals. But having his playoff expereince, his ablity to make big plays in the biggest of situations gives them a better chance of getting out the first round for the first time ever. And sorry but Jason Williams just doesnt provide that, he has been horrible in the playoffs in a Kings uniform and pretty much in a Grizzlies uniform as well. So exactly what level of play has Jason Williams been better then Sam?
I think that Williams is better at this point in time. If you take this years results as a comparison, then Cassel is not better. Not to mention Cassell does have injury problems and Williams will be in the league for a while.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that Williams is better at this point in time. If you take this years results as a comparison, then Cassel is not better. Not to mention Cassell does have injury problems and Williams will be in the league for a while.</div> Ahh..Cassell wasnt hjealthy at all, so its obvious Williams had a better year, but that by no means says he is the better player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Better than Sam hmmm....I know Sammy had his injuries last season but if you are comparing a healthy Sam Cassell to a healthy Jason Williams in no aspect is Williams better. I give that Williams looks to distribute the basketball a bit more. But Cassell still makes way more plays then him. Cassell can win you basketball games, when healthy. Jason Williams cant, he is a decent pg dont get me wrong. But nothing that can get a team pass the 1st round. And that is why the Griz would make such a move, they would be looking for someone who can lead them just a little bit further in the playoffs. By no means Iam I saying that the acquisition of Sammy will put the Grizz into Western Conference finals. But having his playoff expereince, his ablity to make big plays in the biggest of situations gives them a better chance of getting out the first round for the first time ever. And sorry but Jason Williams just doesnt provide that, he has been horrible in the playoffs in a Kings uniform and pretty much in a Grizzlies uniform as well. So exactly what level of play has Jason Williams been better then Sam?</div> Cassell is definitely on another level than Williams, but I still don't think his value should be that high for any team that's not looking to add the finishing touches on a championship contender. The second round would be nice, but it's not something I'd strive for. I'd rather keep a younger player (Williams) with a longer contract.
well Cassell is old, no one wants an old rusty guy who complains about contracts! J will is a good player and is young. Young players like him shouldn't be traded for a crappy old guy. When I hear any trade rumours about the best pointguard in the league I always wouldn't want them to trade him. B/c he is so young it would be dumb to get rid of him for anyone. Keep J. Will, he is your future.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Cassell is definitely on another level than Williams, but I still don't think his value should be that high for any team that's not looking to add the finishing touches on a championship contender. The second round would be nice, but it's not something I'd strive for. I'd rather keep a younger player (Williams) with a longer contract.</div> You are right, I think that the Grizzlies are still loooking for ways to achieve long term success, so keeping Williams is better for that goal. I simply was addressing the comment that he made about Williams being better. And I said that if Memphis did make that move it would be simply to get someone who has experience of helping to lead a team past the 1st round.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Better than Sam hmmm....I know Sammy had his injuries last season but if you are comparing a healthy Sam Cassell to a healthy Jason Williams in no aspect is Williams better. I give that Williams looks to distribute the basketball a bit more. But Cassell still makes way more plays then him. Cassell can win you basketball games, when healthy. Jason Williams cant, he is a decent pg dont get me wrong. But nothing that can get a team pass the 1st round. And that is why the Griz would make such a move, they would be looking for someone who can lead them just a little bit further in the playoffs. By no means Iam I saying that the acquisition of Sammy will put the Grizz into Western Conference finals. But having his playoff expereince, his ablity to make big plays in the biggest of situations gives them a better chance of getting out the first round for the first time ever. And sorry but Jason Williams just doesnt provide that, he has been horrible in the playoffs in a Kings uniform and pretty much in a Grizzlies uniform as well. So exactly what level of play has Jason Williams been better then Sam?</div> Jason Williams may not be as good overall (Sam's ability to take a game over with his jumper has to be the only reason for that) but to say in no aspect is he better is wrong. Williams is a better ballhandler, passer and penetrator than Cassell. Neither plays any defense so that's a wash.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Birdman33:</div><div class="quote_post">Jason Williams may not be as good overall (Sam's ability to take a game over with his jumper has to be the only reason for that) but to say in no aspect is he better is wrong. Williams is a better ballhandler, passer and penetrator than Cassell. Neither plays any defense so that's a wash.</div> I do believe I said that Williams is the more willing passer, so obviously I was giving him credit for that. Over a course of 48 minutes Cassell probably has his hands on the ball way more then Williams, yet their is less than a one turnover difference between the two, so to say Williams is the better ball handler in my opinion is subjective. Williams in my opinion makes alot of mistakes while handling the rock, look no further then almost every single year in the playoffs. Better penetrator of couse, Sammy stop going to the hole around 99'. But overall I will take my comment back about him not being better then Sammy in any aspects, I meant as far as bringing expereince and success to a team. Coach Karl this year even tho he and Sam never seen I to eye, said that Sammy was one of the leagues best winners at the pg spot. A couple of years ago Don Nelson said he would rather have Sammy over any other pg in this league when it came to a big game. And that is still when he had Nash and big game Nick the quick was there then as well. Those are the aspects that Iam saying Jason Williams just doesnt bring to a team. That aspect of a bit of respected fear from his peers.
cassell for J. Williams? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"The Grizzlies are trying to trade Jason Williams to the Timberwolves for Sam Cassell, or anywhere, for that matter, for anyone." New York Post</div> source
