They got outgunned badly. Houston just had a bad day. But it was the worst time to do it. Im looking forward to seeing the Dallas vs. Suns matchup. Both rely on shooting. SHOULD BE A SHOOTOUT ALL SERIES LONG!
A lot of things happened to Houston. Their role players, as phunky420 said, didn't do anything. Everybody was off. T-Mac was inneficient with his scoring. The Rockets showed no life. They didn't contest jumpshots. They didn't even attempt to dictate the tempo of the game, and I think The Maverick roleplayers outplayed the Rocket roleplayers, and Yao and McGrady were not enough to stop the home team. I expected Dallas would explode in the series eventually. Too bad it had to be Game 7.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting justbball:</div><div class="quote_post">they didn't use mutombe enough</div> They could, long as they'd want to lose by a even larger margin.
DALLAS PHOENIX 7 GAMES!!!! its gota go all da way! phoniex will take it! Houston need a big game from Yao, and ESPECIALLY Mcgrady but didnt get them. They need to work hugely on defence!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">Tmac and Yao combined for 60 points out of their team's total 76.... You figure out what's wrong.</div> so true. i mean DAYUM 16 points from the REST OF THE TEAM! Not the bench.. the rest of the team. T-Mac & Yao were double teamed too... the only way they were going to win was for the bench to step up... but they seemed to go on vacation.
Nlothing happened. The Rockets took the series to 7-games. There is no reason to hang their heads. They played without their starting power forward and still took it to 7-games. They played without a true point guard, and they still took it to 7-games. The future is bright for the Rockets and I expect them to be one of the top-four in the Western Conference next year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kingrex:</div><div class="quote_post">Nlothing happened. The Rockets took the series to 7-games. There is no reason to hang their heads. They played without their starting power forward and still took it to 7-games. They played without a true point guard, and they still took it to 7-games. The future is bright for the Rockets and I expect them to be one of the top-four in the Western Conference next year.</div> The thing is that they lost by 40 points in the last game. That's not good. The Rockets are deep at the point guard position. Whether you think they have a "true point guard" or not, I find an excuse. David Wesley = capable Jon Barry = capable Mike James = capable Bob Sura = capable Moochie Norris = capable That right there shows almost half of their active roster is capable of running the point. Last time I checked, Jason Terry wasn't a true point guard either. They took it to 7 games, the Mavericks just were too much for them. Maybe next year they'll do better.
- Bobby Sura was completely ineffective in the last few games of the series, particularly game 7 due to health issues. - David Wesley didn't have a particularly good shooting game - The Rockets essentially played 2 against 5 on offense to start both halfs, since Sura, Wesley, and Padgett weren't doing anything. This hurt us at the start of each half, arguably the most important points of an NBA game - Once the Rockets were down, they tried to shoot themselves back into the game with some tough perimeter shots (particularly McGrady). Those shots were falling in previous games didn't go down in game 7. Nerves and lack of composure were probably a factor.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">The thing is that they lost by 40 points in the last game. That's not good. The Rockets are deep at the point guard position. Whether you think they have a "true point guard" or not, I find an excuse. David Wesley = capable Jon Barry = capable Mike James = capable Bob Sura = capable Moochie Norris = capable That right there shows almost half of their active roster is capable of running the point. Last time I checked, Jason Terry wasn't a true point guard either. They took it to 7 games, the Mavericks just were too much for them. Maybe next year they'll do better.</div> None of those guys are "pure" point guards. Wesley, Sura and Barry won't play the point full time with any team. Wesley and Barry never did play point guard anyways during the series. Moochie Norris is a shmuck, it's laughable how you think he's capable. He didn't even log one minute in the series in my memory, and has been sparingly, if ever, used this season. Mike James is Steve Francis lite. He won't distribute the ball nearly enough, but he's good for points if his shot is on. Francis is more than a spot up shooter, like James is sometimes, though. So how is that the Rockets fault that they lost? When you have those guys who are all above the age of 29, try to guard guys like Jason Terry, Marquis Daniels, Devin Harris, and Daniel Armstrong, all lightning quick guards, would you still think that the Rockets' "depth" should have given them the advantage?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kingrex:</div><div class="quote_post">Nlothing happened. The Rockets took the series to 7-games. There is no reason to hang their heads. They played without their starting power forward and still took it to 7-games. They played without a true point guard, and they still took it to 7-games. The future is bright for the Rockets and I expect them to be one of the top-four in the Western Conference next year.</div> I agree with you 100% Kingrex...I think they did the very best and all they could with what they had; however, the Mavs just had more...The Mavs had better depth and playoff experience as a team, and I think thats what eventually won over in the end...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">None of those guys are "pure" point guards. Wesley, Sura and Barry won't play the point full time with any team. Wesley and Barry never did play point guard anyways during the series. Moochie Norris is a shmuck, it's laughable how you think he's capable. He didn't even log one minute in the series in my memory, and has been sparingly, if ever, used this season. Mike James is Steve Francis lite. He won't distribute the ball nearly enough, but he's good for points if his shot is on. Francis is more than a spot up shooter, like James is sometimes, though.</div> I never said that they were pure point guards, I said they are deep at the point guard position. Teams don?t need pure point guards, to win. It?s not a necessity at all. Although they won?t play full time at the point, their depth allows them all to play a little bit of point which all boils down to the whole game. I don?t know how to respond to your assessment of Norris being a ?schmuck?. You do realize the charity work, and various contributions to the community he has made, or the many children he has helped with reading or donations, right? Apparently you don?t so before you accuse someone else of being a ?schmuck? I suggest you know a little bit more about them. Despite Mike James being Steve Francis-like, he is a tempo changer and played very well in his 24 minutes per game. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So how is that the Rockets fault that they lost? When you have those guys who are all above the age of 29, try to guard guys like Jason Terry, Marquis Daniels, Devin Harris, and Daniel Armstrong, all lightning quick guards, would you still think that the Rockets' "depth" should have given them the advantage?</div> So whose fault is it that they lost, the refs? They weren?t good enough, and they got sent home. It?s there fault that they lost and no one else. Or perhaps it?s the Mavericks fault for beating them. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">- Bobby Sura was completely ineffective in the last few games of the series, particularly game 7 due to health issues. - David Wesley didn't have a particularly good shooting game - The Rockets essentially played 2 against 5 on offense to start both halfs, since Sura, Wesley, and Padgett weren't doing anything. This hurt us at the start of each half, arguably the most important points of an NBA game - Once the Rockets were down, they tried to shoot themselves back into the game with some tough perimeter shots (particularly McGrady). Those shots were falling in previous games didn't go down in game 7. Nerves and lack of composure were probably a factor.</div> Obviously the Mavericks did something right for them to struggle this badly.
Sorry about replying to this late, I never remembered to check this thread.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I never said that they were pure point guards, I said they are deep at the point guard position. Teams don?t need pure point guards, to win. It?s not a necessity at all. Although they won?t play full time at the point, their depth allows them all to play a little bit of point which all boils down to the whole game.</div>Okay, so if you have, say, Norris starting at point guard, Omar Cook, Zach Marbury, Rick Brunson, and Jamison Brewer at point guard, would you have a deep PG position? Depth means how many quality players at that position you have, not just numbers. 5 below average point guards are not as good as one Jason Kidd. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I don?t know how to respond to your assessment of Norris being a ?schmuck?. You do realize the charity work, and various contributions to the community he has made, or the many children he has helped with reading or donations, right? Apparently you don?t so before you accuse someone else of being a ?schmuck? I suggest you know a little bit more about them. Despite Mike James being Steve Francis-like, he is a tempo changer and played very well in his 24 minutes per game.</div>What the hell does the term "schmuck" has to do with what Moochie Norris does off the court? Yeah, he's charitable, he's involved in the community, but does that make him any better on the court? I suggest you hit up www.dictionary.com before you misunderstand another word. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So whose fault is it that they lost, the refs? They weren?t good enough, and they got sent home. It?s there fault that they lost and no one else. Or perhaps it?s the Mavericks fault for beating them.</div>Sorry bout that. I didn't mean to say that it wasn't the Rockets' fault for losing. You obviously blamed it on the point guards, and I meant to say that it wasn't the PGs' fault. They did all they could, it's the Rockets as a whole that failed to do as well as they could. Credit also has to be given to the Mavs, but you can't say that the refs had nothing to do with the outcome of at least two games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry about replying to this late, I never remembered to check this thread.</div> No problem. It happens to me too. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay, so if you have, say, Norris starting at point guard, Omar Cook, Zach Marbury, Rick Brunson, and Jamison Brewer at point guard, would you have a deep PG position? Depth means how many quality players at that position you have, not just numbers. 5 below average point guards are not as good as one Jason Kidd. What the hell does the term "schmuck" has to do with what Moochie Norris does off the court? Yeah, he's charitable, he's involved in the community, but does that make him any better on the court? I suggest you hit up www.dictionary.com before you misunderstand another word.</div> Moochie Norris is decent than what many give him credit for. He is a decent backup point guard. He knows how to score, he?s improved his jumper, and is a good leader and knows how to get others involved. Excuse me. Usually when I hear the word schmuck, I don?t hear it in basketball context. I still don?t see how he?s stupid and clumsy though. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry bout that. I didn't mean to say that it wasn't the Rockets' fault for losing. You obviously blamed it on the point guards, and I meant to say that it wasn't the PGs' fault. They did all they could, it's the Rockets as a whole that failed to do as well as they could. Credit also has to be given to the Mavs, but you can't say that the refs had nothing to do with the outcome of at least two games.</div> Perhaps you should read my posts more thoroughly. Where did you get the idea that I was blaming the point guards? I remember supporting their point guards and the depth they have at that position even to the extent where you thought I was overrating Norris. If every game was called right, then wouldn?t that be great? But unfortunately, the NBA doesn?t go like that and blaming the refs is not reasonable. I think Jeff Van Gundy is more responsible for the Rockets losing than the refs.
