<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"Among the players who have intrigued the Nets are 6-foot-11 Channing Frye of Arizona; 6-11 Brazilian Tiago Splitter, who played in Spain; 6-8 Sean May of North Carolina; 6-8 Hakim Warrick of Syracuse; 6-7 Ike Diogu of Arizona State; 6-10 Fran Vasquez of Spain; 6-8 Wayne Simien of Kansas, and 6-10 Chris Taft of Pitt." New York Post</div> source
Chris Taft would probably be my favorite out of this years crop of bigs. But he will be gone more than likely by the chance will get to pick. Anyway, Iam not that high on Hakim Warrick for us...he is a nice player but he cant play the 4 spot in the nba in my opinion. And he doesnt have the perimeter or ball handling skills to be a three, so the potiential for him to be a bust on this level is there. Also I not for sure if Sean May is for us either, his laterial quickness was never really tested in college. And he has that lazy look to his game, that just seems like he doesnt always give 100%, he could be another let down on this level if you ask me.
I've seen Tiago Splitter play a lot this season, he seems like a great fit for the Nets. He's a big man who can play good defense and score in the paint extremely well. Though he didn't do so well in the Final Four in the Euroleague, I feel that he could really help us. The only problem is that I don't think he'll be around by our pick, but he MIGHT just slip down... Judging by who would be around, I would probably go with Channing Frye.
Ike Diogu, Ike Diogu, Ike Diogu. He plays in the Pac-10 where I live/watch. He was Pac-10 Player of the year, basically averaged 20/10 through college and can he shoot the college 3, where he averages about 39%. His best work is in the paint though, and he's skilled, smart, and powerful down there. Although he can make easy meat out of basically all the big men in his conference (as in his competition isn't quite the best) he always gets tripled and double teamed, and has no problem dealing with it. He won't be catching the same sky high alley oops that Carter and RJ will, but why does he need to? He's at his best eating up the paint and snatching rebounds, blocking shots and that's what the Nets need. I can see him becoming the next Rasheed Wallace, but with less athleticism and better post moves.
May got a lot better when UNC's season furthered. I like his skill, but his size won't be as a factor in the league as it was in college. He doesn't really have a face up game and his post moves might not translate well..He's big so out muscling his defender is easy, but not in this league. I wouldn't say he's a bad pick up though, he's a tremendous rebounder and should have no problem in coming in and getting 8-10 rebounds on average a night. I don't know about CHanning Frye. He seemed to pick up a lot of fans after torching Illinois in the elite 8, but I'm not sold on him. Illinois' frontcourt was underrated, but Frye should've always played that hard. He seems inconsitent in effort and I question how good of a rebounder he can be. He has a nice jumper and athleticism to him, but I say pass. I like Ike Diogu, he blew up big. His post moves are excellent as well as his rebounding. He has the intangibles to win and I'd like to see him on the Nets. I don't know about the European or Brazilian guys. However, Brazil has put some good players in the league. Nene, Anderson Varejo, and Barbosa off the top of my head. They seem to be athletic and tenacious. I'm not going to generalize them, but if Splitter came into the league with those two characteristics, I wouldn't mind him at all. However, I think the Nets are building to contend next year. Probably ideally it is best to package the pick and get an established post player.. I don't know who though, but it might happen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Projected first-round draft picks will be visiting next month ? but the Nets, next week, will begin working out potential second-rounders. On Tuesday, the Nets are scheduled to work four players ranging from a former SEC Player of the Year to a local point-guard hopeful. A week from tomorrow, the Nets will look at Georgia Tech's 7-1 center Luke Schenscher. "Especially on the second round ? and usually on the first ? our policy has been to take the best player available," said GM Ed Stefanski, whose contract the Nets are trying to extend for an additional three to four years beyond next season, the last on his current deal. The first-round pick, at No. 15, likely will be used to find size. Several mock drafts have the Nets honing in on Arizona's 6-11 Channing Frye or North Carolina's 6-8 Sean May. In the past, the Nets have drafted players they did not have in for workouts, such as Jason Collins, Nenad Krstic and Tamar Slay. The first group the Nets will work out includes 6-9 forward Lawrence Roberts of Mississippi State, 6-9 forward David Lee of Florida, 6-1 point guard Travis Diener of Marquette and 6-0 point guard Jerry Johnson of Rider. In the second round, the Nets have the 43rd overall pick. </div> Those are the players the Nets are working out in the next couple of days. They will have plenty of options to fill their PF need, in the draft or via free agency. Source
Is Schenscher the oldest player in the draft? I'd take a look at him definitely. He's not the most skilled person but he reminds me of Jeff Foster, which isn't a bad thing. I don't think you can take him with ur 45th pick because there's better talent there, however, if you can get him with a lower pick that you trade for, or get him undrafted, then that would be great. You probably don't even have to draft him, but who knows, maybe someteam will take him in the 2nd round before the Nets. Channing Frye is the guy I want the Nets to draft. He can do a lot of things in the post. Him and Krstic should form a very productive front court, and if he needs a couple of years, then you can always sign a FA (not for 6 years). It would also be nice to see Petro in a Nets uni. He'll bring a defensive presence and hopefully he'll develop some nice post moves since he has 3 players that will attrack double teams. But he could become the DeSagana Diop (not a good thing).
I watched Sean May and Frye some games. A couple of games I watched he had over about 30 points. I follow Illinois so I watched May and Frye during the tournament and both had great games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NBAFan4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">shawn may would be perfect in NJ.</div> Iam not for sure about that, just to follow up on what NLG said May was really an effective factor at UNC because he was such a big wide body. But on the NBA level his size wont be that big of a factor, so you have to look at what else would make him a major factor on this level. Is he vesatile with the inside/out game? not really...is he super athletic? nope...there is much in his game besides his size that would make you belive him can be a legit player in this league. And for that I believe he has the potential to be one of this years disappointments, may even turn into a guy that we look at as a serious draft day bust in the future.
I would like Splittler or Frye.. . A tall athletic guy who could rebound and would go well alongside Kristic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Iam not for sure about that, just to follow up on what NLG said May was really an effective factor at UNC because he was such a big wide body. But on the NBA level his size wont be that big of a factor, so you have to look at what else would make him a major factor on this level. Is he vesatile with the inside/out game? not really...is he super athletic? nope...there is much in his game besides his size that would make you belive him can be a legit player in this league. And for that I believe he has the potential to be one of this years disappointments, may even turn into a guy that we look at as a serious draft day bust in the future.</div>I would have to disagree. Sean May has enough body to be able to play inside in the NBA. I hate making comparisons but his body type and the way he plays reminds me a lot of how Zach Randolph and Mike Sweetney play. He plays inside and has a good knack for finishing. A lot of teams passed on Sweetney and Randolph in the draft and I think if you can add a bruiser type player in May, he would make a good compliment to Nenad.
I would like to get Chris Taft or Wayne Simeon. Both of these guys could help our interior game and would make an impact in their rookie years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">I would have to disagree. Sean May has enough body to be able to play inside in the NBA. I hate making comparisons but his body type and the way he plays reminds me a lot of how Zach Randolph and Mike Sweetney play. He plays inside and has a good knack for finishing. A lot of teams passed on Sweetney and Randolph in the draft and I think if you can add a bruiser type player in May, he would make a good compliment to Nenad.</div> But he doesnt have the phsyical edge due to his size that he has right now on the college level, so you have to think what would seperate him to allow him to be effective seriously. Zach Randolph and Mike Sweetney rely on their face up game alot, taking a fare share of elbow jumpers etc. And that then allows their post up game to become more effective. They dont always have to play with their backs to the basket.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">But he doesnt have the phsyical edge due to his size that he has right now on the college level, so you have to think what would seperate him to allow him to be effective seriously. Zach Randolph and Mike Sweetney rely on their face up game alot, taking a fare share of elbow jumpers etc. And that then allows their post up game to become more effective. They dont always have to play with their backs to the basket.</div>Sweetney's elbow jumper is not effective at all yet. Zach Randolph developed that shot as he developed in the league. He didn't have that shot as a rookie. Here is what I have found on their body types: Sean May - 6'8 266 pounds Zach Randolph - 6'9 253 pounds (NBA.com bio) Mike Sweetney - 6'8 270 pounds (NBA.com bio) Those measurements are pretty damn close to each other. May can definitely develope a nice elbow jumper that could quite possibly be better than Randolph's and Sweetney's. The fact is that because Sweetney and Randolph were slept on in the draft, it should serve notice to GM's that May's talent may not be as marginal as they think.
^ you're right Sweetney's mid-range jumper needs consistency. But it is there to the point where he can step out and make when he is being defended by bigger guys, so he doesnt have to play streakily in the post. And Randolph didnt get consistence minutes until he develope that jumper but Portland had Rasheed, so it was no rush. Unfortunately we dont have time to give for guys to add a bunch of things into their games, we need someone who will be as effective as possible, asap.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yesterday, they tried four more second-round prospects: 7-foot-1 Georgia Tech center Luke Schenscher, 6-10 Duke forward Shavlik Randolph, 6-1 point guard Filiberto Rivera of UTEP and 6-1 guard David Logan, the Division II Player of the Year at of the U of Indianapolis. "Logan can score," said GM Ed Stefanski. "Randolph is . . . well-schooled. Rivera is very quick. Schenscher is a legit 7-footer who needs to work on his strength around the basket." </div> Source The Nets continue to workout the big men in the draft. With Shaq standing in the way of any team wanting to come out of the East, it makes sense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"Logan can score," said GM Ed Stefanski. "Randolph is . . . well-schooled. Rivera is very quick. Schenscher is a legit 7-footer who needs to work on his strength around the basket."</div> What does that mean anyway? That he really is 7 feet tall? Big deal, i'm assuming he was trying to think of something nice to say about him (i've seen him play, he's really not that good).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kdub:</div><div class="quote_post">What does that mean anyway? That he really is 7 feet tall? Big deal, i'm assuming he was trying to think of something nice to say about him (i've seen him play, he's really not that good).</div> Nah, they arent trying to say because he is 7 feet that he is a good player. They just point out that he really is a 7 footer because in todays NBA alot of guys coming out claim to be seven feet, especially coming into the draft as a way of increasing their value. As for Luke, I dont think he is a horrible player, I just figured that after the run G-Tech made in the 04' tournament, where Luke played really well, that the 04-05 season was going to be a really strong year for him. But it really wasnt, but he does have good size you cant deny that. I think that if you have someone who can work with him on how to better use that size he can become an effective big in a teams rotation, hell never be anything close to a star type of player tho.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah, they arent trying to say because he is 7 feet that he is a good player. They just point out that he really is a 7 footer because in todays NBA alot of guys coming out claim to be seven feet, especially coming into the draft as a way of increasing their value. As for Luke, I dont think he is a horrible player, I just figured that after the run G-Tech made in the 04' tournament, where Luke played really well, that the 04-05 season was going to be a really strong year for him. But it really wasnt, but he does have good size you cant deny that. I think that if you have someone who can work with him on how to better use that size he can become an effective big in a teams rotation, hell never be anything close to a star type of player tho.</div> Everything you say is true, I just put too much expectations on him after watching his superior frontcourt partner (Chris Bosh) play great and grow in college and in the NBA.
