Draft Interest

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  1. jbbNJNetz

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    I have been looking at the alot of the mock draft sites and they show alot of the picks as an i really don't watch or keep track of college in awhile can any body that has watched or seen these player elablorate on what the see in them and which you think are a better fit and could be an impact player:

    Sean May (majority of the websites are going with him)
    Channing Frye (majority of the websites are going with him)
    Danny Granger
    Joey Graham
     
  2. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    More and More as the draft approaches, I am starting to feel like Nextlevelgame, we might be better off trading the pick for a veteran big, the only guy I was overly excited about having the chance to pick up was Chris Taft. But as more reprts about his lack of a work ethic comes to lite, Iam not even for sure that his raw ablities are worth such a risk, same thing with the kid from Uconn, Charlie V.
     
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    Hakim Warrick.
     
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    Frye would fit in the best with his athletism along with Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson.
     
  5. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MaxBallin:</div><div class="quote_post">Hakim Warrick.</div>

    Pass...he is a nice athlete no doubt. But I dont think he will be an effective player in the half-court. He doesnt have the strenght to be an effective 4 down low. And doesnt have that verstilty to be able to talk his game out to the perimeter mid-range area or be able to put the ball on the floor and create his own opportunites, Iam not for sure how good Warrick's going to be on this level when he cant get by on his raw athletism.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Pass...he is a nice athlete no doubt. But I dont think he will be an effective player in the half-court. He doesnt have the strenght to be an effective 4 down low. And doesnt have that verstilty to be able to talk his game out to the perimeter mid-range area or be able to put the ball on the floor and create his own opportunites, Iam not for sure how good Warrick's going to be on this level when he cant get by on his raw athletism.</div>
    Warrick's size scares me. I think he will be a bust in the NBA because of his tweenerness. As for Channing Frye, I think he will be a good player in the NBA and I would love to see the Nets grab him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">More and More as the draft approaches, I am starting to feel like Nextlevelgame, we might be better off trading the pick for a veteran big, the only guy I was overly excited about having the chance to pick up was Chris Taft. But as more reprts about his lack of a work ethic comes to lite, Iam not even for sure that his raw ablities are worth such a risk, same thing with the kid from Uconn, Charlie V.</div>


    On the forum on nj.com, a user named ataxo had predicted a trade for the Nets. He has a very good track record of leaking trades in the past. He said the Nets were to trade the LAC's pic with Zoran for a mid lottery to perhaps get Felton, then us the 15th to get a big man. This would be interesting, but also a risk. I think the Clippers will be playoff-bound next year or damn close. Felton would be a good PG to mentor when Kidd goes into his latter years (though I would prefer Deron Williams, who'd probably go higher in the draft).

    With the 15th pick, I say the Nets should just draft Sean May. He's the safe choice. He'll definitely be a good rebounder and will score. Defensively he will not help, but we'll have Jason Collins off the bench if we need help. Unfortunately, our fastbreak won't be helped by a slow May.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">On the forum on nj.com, a user named ataxo had predicted a trade for the Nets. He has a very good track record of leaking trades in the past. He said the Nets were to trade the LAC's pic with Zoran for a mid lottery to perhaps get Felton, then us the 15th to get a big man. This would be interesting, but also a risk. I think the Clippers will be playoff-bound next year or damn close. Felton would be a good PG to mentor when Kidd goes into his latter years (though I would prefer Deron Williams, who'd probably go higher in the draft).

    With the 15th pick, I say the Nets should just draft Sean May. He's the safe choice. He'll definitely be a good rebounder and will score. Defensively he will not help, but we'll have Jason Collins off the bench if we need help. Unfortunately, our fastbreak won't be helped by a slow May.</div>
    I think that if the Nets can land Raymond Felton, that would be a very nice pick. Jason Kidd can teach him and Felton wouldn't have to make an immediate impact for the Nets. At #15 I think the Nets should go with Hakim Warrick. That would give them Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, Hakim and Krstic. With that roster and with Felton coming off the bench I think the Nets would be able to make a run in the Eastern Conference.
     
  9. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">On the forum on nj.com, a user named ataxo had predicted a trade for the Nets. He has a very good track record of leaking trades in the past. He said the Nets were to trade the LAC's pic with Zoran for a mid lottery to perhaps get Felton, then us the 15th to get a big man. This would be interesting, but also a risk. I think the Clippers will be playoff-bound next year or damn close. Felton would be a good PG to mentor when Kidd goes into his latter years (though I would prefer Deron Williams, who'd probably go higher in the draft).

    With the 15th pick, I say the Nets should just draft Sean May. He's the safe choice. He'll definitely be a good rebounder and will score. Defensively he will not help, but we'll have Jason Collins off the bench if we need help. Unfortunately, our fastbreak won't be helped by a slow May.</div>

    Me personally if we where to make a move like that to move into a lottery situation, I would still like to draft a big giving us two 1st round big bodies, which increases our chances that one will be an immediate impact type of guy. If we where able to move into a lottery situation then we could probably take a risk on a raw player like Chris Taft, who has alot of upside. But many feel that work ethic is his setback. And then with out regular pick we draft a more safe big.

    I think that overall Williams will be the better playmaker at pg, but I think that Felton will be the one to adapt to the speed factor, which is key espeially key at the pg spot in the NBA alot quicker and smoother.
     
  10. kdub

    kdub Cal's best coming to the Swamp!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On the forum on nj.com, a user named ataxo had predicted a trade for the Nets. He has a very good track record of leaking trades in the past. He said the Nets were to trade the LAC's pic with Zoran for a mid lottery to perhaps get Felton, then us the 15th to get a big man. This would be interesting, but also a risk. I think the Clippers will be playoff-bound next year or damn close. Felton would be a good PG to mentor when Kidd goes into his latter years (though I would prefer Deron Williams, who'd probably go higher in the draft).

    With the 15th pick, I say the Nets should just draft Sean May. He's the safe choice. He'll definitely be a good rebounder and will score. Defensively he will not help, but we'll have Jason Collins off the bench if we need help. Unfortunately, our fastbreak won't be helped by a slow May.</div>

    I've also seen this mentioned before on another forum and it is very interesting. Although I still believe Zoran can become a good 2/3 backup with his ability to shoot and get into the lane, I wouldn't mind giving him up for the opportunity to draft someone like Felton, Williams, Jack, or Splitter (I'm still worried about Taft's ethic).

    I've also heard that the Nets (15) would do this with the Warriors (9) and not the Clippers (12). The Warriors have a higher pick, and may be more willing to do so because they seem interested in Granger, who can be picked with a lower pick.

    If this goes down, there are two possiblities: 1) Rod and Ed draft two big bodies (akin to Henacy's plan), or 2) they draft a PF and PG to fill two spots on their lineup cheaply. The SG/SF aren't quite as bright in the draft, and I believe those can be filled with FA's easily.

    1) I would like to see the drafting of Tiago Splitter and Ike Diogu. Splitter is constatly moving up in the charts and he seems like the perfect PF (for any team, actually) in terms of defense, size, skill, smarts. Check out this article Link

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Splitter only played 22 minutes, but continued his impressive form in the playoffs with 11 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks in that time. The first three quarters were not the best performance ever for this athletic Brazilian big man, with only 3 points and 2 rebounds through the first half, but his play in the all important fourth quarter left a lasting impression of what this young 7 footer is begining to develop into and what he might end up becoming as he continues to mature.

    First and foremost should be mentioned his outstanding defense throughout the game. Splitter did a good job in the paint, but it was on rotations forced off pick and roll situations where he really showed his talent. Tiago has the rare ability for a 7 footer to match guards step for step from the perimeter down to the basket with his excellent lateral movement, but still always staying close to his man with his hands in the air and not leaving him any options to get his shot off or find the open man. He forced a number of bad shots and turnovers strictly by playing strong and fundamentally sound defense. Gran Canaria's big men tried to back him down in the post and get towards the basket, but Splitter was having none of it and used his lower body and wingspan almost every time to frustrate and force his man into looking for another option.

    Offensively, Splitter was always the first man down the floor running with his guards in transition, showing off his quickness but rarely being rewarded with his efforts by receiving the ball. He had one gorgeous move from about 12 feet out where he showed off his terrific footwork and improving ball-handling skills to get his man off balance and then elegently lay the ball in the basket once he got by him. In the 4th quarter he scored a number of huge baskets either off huge offensive rebounds or simply by putting himself in the right place at the right time to catch the ball and finish with an athletic move when his team's offense broke down.</div>

    A 7 foot PF who defends, runs the floor, has a growing number of post skills, and is still only 20 years old?

    And I think everyone here has heard me glow about Diogu who is as skilled as they get in terms of big men. The only possible knocks on him are his size, but I dont see it as a problem at all. He's not the next Kenyon, but he's also more skilled, and inherently a better and smarter rebounder.

    The only problem I see with this is that both may (likely) become starter material. Where do you find the minutes for both to work effectively?

    2)
    If the Nets draft a PG and a PF, then it would need to be a PG with the higher pick and a PF with the lower pick (15) because you can't wait until the 15th pick for a PG... there will be none left.

    I believe either Raymond Felton, Deron Williams, or Jarrett Jack will be available by the 9th GSW pick, if the Nets happen to grab it. Either one will at least make great backup PG's to Kidd. I know many haven't talked about Jack, but he's a great defender, a smart (but not quite flashy) passer, and a overall good PG with good work ethic to have on your bench. He'll probably be the one that is available as he isn't looked as highly as the other two, and I'm fine with that if the Nets can get him.

    Then of course, you have to draft a PF. The Nets would have Johan Petro, Taft, Diogu, Hakim Warrick, Charlie Villanueva, and Sean May on the table to pick from. Petro is a project, Taft and Charlie have head issues, and why draft May, when you can draft Diogu who is leaner, stronger, and more skilled?

    So with this plan the Nets would get Jarrett Jack and Ike Diogu, two good picks and pieces that could fit very well into the Nets immediate and future plans. The only problem I see with this, is that you're giving up drafting a sexier prospect in Splitter who looks to have one of the best futures and upsides of the draft's bigmen.
     
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    Check out this story on Taft w/ quotes from NBA execs:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Chris Taft has been holding numerous private workouts over the past week in a gym in New York City, taking advantage of the fact that many of the NBA decision makers were in town for the draft lottery. DraftCity has spoken to a couple of people who watched him in those workouts, and the feedback has been almost unanimous: he?s incredibly overrated.

    A few select comments:

    ?I can?t believe how lazy he looked out there. Does he not get it??

    ?We were all thinking that he?d just magically put behind the extremely poor season he had at Pitt once workouts started, and that he'd show some enthusiasm for about a month or so?but nope!?

    ?Whoever is doing PR for Chris Taft deserves a Nobel Prize. We?re talking about a 6-10 monster who pulled down double digit rebounds 5 times in 30 games here?somehow everyone seems to think that his stock can?t drop. Well they are wrong. I?m not sure if he deserves to even get drafted in the 1st.?

    ?Taft has some of the worst body language I have ever seen from a player his age.?

    ?Teams are calling up his coach at Pitt, Jamie Dixon, and they are not really liking what they?re hearing about his work ethic and basketball IQ.?

    Teams generally do not like to share information with top prospects with each other, but in this case when they are all watching the disaster unfold in front of their eyes, it?s hard not to. Isiah Thomas was reportedly one of the spectators and all he could do was ?shake his head in disgust.?</div>

    I mean these teams could be doing what Rod had done in the past, and be trying to fake their displeasure so other teams will pass by him, but so many teams doing this isn't likely.
     
  12. Henacy

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    Jason Maxell in the 2nd round?

    I think that with the 43 pick a guy like Jason Maxell would be a solid choice instead of drafting a pg. He is a safe choice but yet still a bit of a gamble. His lack of hieght makes you a little scared of how he will do as a 4 in this league. But the fact that he has 4 years of college experince makes him bit of a safe choice as well. I dont think he will ever be a star by any means, but he is a nice wide body to fill in a big man spot as a solid contributor off the bench.
     

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