Duke's Shavlik Randolph Declares

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Duke's Shavlik Randolph, a three-year letterwinner at the school, declared himself eligible for the 2005 NBA Draft that will be held on June 28 in New York City.

    "I support Shavlik 100 percent," said Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski. </div>

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    this early entry stuff is just getting to be funny.

    randolph's 04-05 stats: 18.9 mpg, 4.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg

    those stats are DOWN from his sophomore year, when he averaged an impressive 5.9 points and 4.5 boards [​IMG]


    I guess this must be an ego-related move, because he won't get off the pine with the frosh bigs they've got coming in...
     
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    I hope Coach K suports him when he comes crawling back to Durahm looking for a towel boy job. Oh, my bad, he's already held that position for the last 3 season!
     
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    Well when Williams and Randolph both came to Duke it was actually Randolph who was suppose to be the better player, but due to injuries he hasn't ever performed up to his potential. I think he is just testing the waters by declaring, look for him to withdraw if he doesn't get a first round committment - which he won't.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hunter:</div><div class="quote_post">Well when Williams and Randolph both came to Duke it was actually Randolph who was suppose to be the better player, but due to injuries he hasn't ever performed up to his potential. I think he is just testing the waters by declaring, look for him to withdraw if he doesn't get a first round committment - which he won't.</div>


    dude, i don't think he's coming back, for the simple fact that the dukies are bringing in so many big time recruits for their frontcourt. he was thinking about declaring last year cuz he felt that he wasn't getting enough playing time. i think that a by product of his status as a top recruit is that it has influenced him and the fact that he hasn't matured like he prolly should've is making him think that he should go. i think it's dumb, but i wouldn't be surprised if this is for real...
     
  6. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Schaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">dude, i don't think he's coming back, for the simple fact that the dukies are bringing in so many big time recruits for their frontcourt. he was thinking about declaring last year cuz he felt that he wasn't getting enough playing time. i think that a by product of his status as a top recruit is that it has influenced him and the fact that he hasn't matured like he prolly should've is making him think that he should go. i think it's dumb, but i wouldn't be surprised if this is for real...</div>

    We don't know his true motives, so it's kind of pointless to debate this, but I agree with Hunter that he is probably just testing the waters. College players are allowed one year to put their name in the NBA draft and withdraw it; after that "test card" is used, the next time they declare it's final (like what will happen to Bass). I think that the reason that so many Juniors are declaring is just because they have that unused "test card" and want to have the advantage of going through the process.

    As for the whole "starting" issue, do you think McRoberts will start? Usually Seniors start out of respect; just look at North Carolina this year. Obviously Marvin Williams was the most talented player on the team (although that's debatable), yet he came off the bench so Seniors like Jackie Manuel could start.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">We don't know his true motives, so it's kind of pointless to debate this, but I agree with Hunter that he is probably just testing the waters. College players are allowed one year to put their name in the NBA draft and withdraw it; after that "test card" is used, the next time they declare it's final (like what will happen to Bass). I think that the reason that so many Juniors are declaring is just because they have that unused "test card" and want to have the advantage of going through the process.

    As for the whole "starting" issue, do you think McRoberts will start? Usually Seniors start out of respect; just look at North Carolina this year. Obviously Marvin Williams was the most talented player on the team (although that's debatable), yet he came off the bench so Seniors like Jackie Manuel could start.</div>

    coach k started brand and magette as frosh [​IMG] i think that if mcroberts and or the british guy prove they can play, they'll play
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Schaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">coach k started brand and magette as frosh [​IMG] i think that if mcroberts and or the british guy prove they can play, they'll play</div>

    If my memory serves me correctly, Corey Maggette did not start but rather benched in favor of junior Chris Carrawell. Elton Brand started, but that was a much different case than the one Duke is facing now. The only other Center on Duke that was worth a damn was Chris Burgess, and he was only a 5 ppg averaging sophomore. Shavlik Randolph, on the other hand, is a senior and still hasn't had a great injury-free year to prove himself.
     
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    randolph???

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    Shavlik Randolph entering the NBA is way worst than Randolph Morris entering. Shavlik simply will never be a NBA player while Morris actually has a chance to be. Shavlik gets in foul trouble early and hasn't played up to his potential. He was a dominant force downlow in HS, but an injury that he suffered has really hurt him a lot. But I think one more year with coach K could help him out a ton.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">
    As for the whole "starting" issue, do you think McRoberts will start? Usually Seniors start out of respect; just look at North Carolina this year. Obviously Marvin Williams was the most talented player on the team (although that's debatable), yet he came off the bench so Seniors like Jackie Manuel could start.</div>

    Well, Coach K has shown no regard for class when throwing out his starting lineups - he will go with the best five for the job. The only two guarenteed starters come this year are Redick and Williams. McRoberts and Randolph will battle for the PF job, which I expect McRoberts to get(he is just more versatile and brings more to the table). The PG one, will be very interesting with Nelson, Dockery and Paulus all going at it. Look for them to compete for the two starting guard spots(Redick gets the third). Another option is Boykin however I don't think he is ready to start for Duke his freshman year(he might even redshirt). Melchionni is another viable option but I expect him to get most of his PT off the bench.

    If I am looking at the Duke starting lineup next year at right now my guess would be:

    Dockery
    Redick
    Paulus
    McRoberts
    Williams
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Coach K has shown no regard for class when throwing out his starting lineups -</div>

    I guess I'm alone in remembering the time the obviously more talented Maggette benched for Chris Carrawell. I see where you are coming from though, because he played Williams, Brand, and Boozer significant minutes as Freshmen. He just hasn't always gone with the more talented player. He should do the right thing in this situation and start Randolph. Starting a player does not necessarily mean giving them the most minutes either. There are many instances throughout the NCAA where players off the bench are the best players on their teams.
     

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