2005 Record Predictions

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  1. JustBry07

    JustBry07 The Underdog

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    I find it funny that one years stats make Carr the better QB in your mind. Tell me you are just saying these things and don't actually believe them, because to me that is just ridiculous.
     
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    I find it funny that he says Vick gets sacked more than Carr but Carr got sacked more last year.?????? Remember Carr threw over 100 more pass attempts than Vick and only threw 2 more TD's. Again only time will tell who the better QB will be.
     
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    Dont have to wait time, Carr is clearly better.
     
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    Even though Carr's career rating is 72.3 and he has thrown 34 TD's and 42 INT's. Where as Vick has a 36 TD's and 26 INT's with a 76.9 rating. Vick has also only been a full time starter for 2 seasons. Carr 3. So no David Carr is not the CLEAR CUT BETTER QB.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Even though Carr's career rating is 72.3 and he has thrown 34 TD's and 42 INT's. Where as Vick has a 36 TD's and 26 INT's with a 76.9 rating. Vick has also only been a full time starter for 2 seasons. Carr 3. So no David Carr is not the CLEAR CUT BETTER QB.</div>

    BF1 is just trying to get under your skin now. You're right and he knows it because he is CLEARLY wrong.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Even though Carr's career rating is 72.3 and he has thrown 34 TD's and 42 INT's. Where as Vick has a 36 TD's and 26 INT's with a 76.9 rating. Vick has also only been a full time starter for 2 seasons. Carr 3. So no David Carr is not the CLEAR CUT BETTER QB.</div>

    BF1 is just trying to get under your skin now. You're right and he knows it because he is CLEARLY wrong.</div>

    Got those falcons-colored glasses on eh? You buy them same place eagles fans buy theirs?

    Career rating is not fair comparison. Carr is clearly getting better throwing, thus the increase in YPA and QB rating each full season, including 14 point jump last year.

    Vick hasnt shown improvement, as demonstrated in decrease in QB rating from first full season to second.

    The difference? Carr is learning how to read Defense and make right throw, Vick isnt and continues to have to run to suceed.
     
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    Vick was learning an entire new offense last year. Carr's rating may have increased but do you think Vick's is not going to. Is he just going to amount to a nobody. Carr finally had a decent season and still only threw 2 more TD's than Vick. Not to mention over a 100 more pass attempts. Again only time is gonna tell on how Mike Vick and David Carr turns out.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick was learning an entire new offense last year. Carr's rating may have increased but do you think Vick's is not going to. Is he just going to amount to a nobody. Carr finally had a decent season and still only threw 2 more TD's than Vick. Not to mention over a 100 more pass attempts. Again only time is gonna tell on how Mike Vick and David Carr turns out.</div>

    No, Carr will be better, the writing is on the wall(and stat book, and field) He is the better passer. He is more accurate, better arm, and way smarter.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Got those falcons-colored glasses on eh? You buy them same place eagles fans buy theirs?</div>

    Yes, I got them at the exact same place the Eagles fans bought theirs. You know what though all I'm doing is believing in the QB of my team, his potential and ability to improve his game. I know that it is hard for a Bears fan to grasp the concept of believing in your QB, afterall the Bears have so many and none of them are good.

    Thank you Porky, you made the point I was going to make.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Got those falcons-colored glasses on eh? You buy them same place eagles fans buy theirs?</div>

    Yes, I got them at the exact same place the Eagles fans bought theirs. You know what though all I'm doing is believing in the QB of my team, his potential and ability to improve his game. I know that it is hard for a Bears fan to grasp the concept of believing in your QB, afterall the Bears have so many and none of them are good.

    Thank you Porky, you made the point I was going to make.</div>

    There is believing, and there is decieving yourself into seeing what isnt there.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Got those falcons-colored glasses on eh? You buy them same place eagles fans buy theirs?</div>

    Yes, I got them at the exact same place the Eagles fans bought theirs. You know what though all I'm doing is believing in the QB of my team, his potential and ability to improve his game. I know that it is hard for a Bears fan to grasp the concept of believing in your QB, afterall the Bears have so many and none of them are good.

    Thank you Porky, you made the point I was going to make.</div>

    There is believing, and there is decieving yourself into seeing what isnt there.</div>

    Do you seriously believe that Vick doesn't have the potential to become a more solid QB in the NFL?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Yes, I got them at the exact same place the Eagles fans bought theirs. You know what though all I'm doing is believing in the QB of my team, his potential and ability to improve his game. I know that it is hard for a Bears fan to grasp the concept of believing in your QB, afterall the Bears have so many and none of them are good.

    Thank you Porky, you made the point I was going to make.</div>

    There is believing, and there is decieving yourself into seeing what isnt there.</div>

    Do you seriously believe that Vick doesn't have the potential to become a more solid QB in the NFL?</div>

    He could be an average qb like between 15th best to 20th best. I dont seem him being top flight.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    There is believing, and there is decieving yourself into seeing what isnt there.</div>

    Do you seriously believe that Vick doesn't have the potential to become a more solid QB in the NFL?</div>

    He could be an average qb like between 15th best to 20th best. I dont seem him being top flight.</div>

    Well, I'll take what I can get at this point because I don't think I will get much more than that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick was learning an entire new offense last year. Carr's rating may have increased but do you think Vick's is not going to. Is he just going to amount to a nobody. Carr finally had a decent season and still only threw 2 more TD's than Vick. Not to mention over a 100 more pass attempts. Again only time is gonna tell on how Mike Vick and David Carr turns out.</div>

    No, Carr will be better, the writing is on the wall(and stat book, and field) He is the better passer. He is more accurate, better arm, and way smarter.</div>

    Stat book and field. Well stats show Mike Vick has had a better career thus far. Better QB rating. Better TD to INT ratio, and a better record. Plus he has only been a starter for 2 seasons. I'll give you accuracy but better arm no. If he is so much more smarter is numbers would be a lot better than Vicks. Not similar.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick was learning an entire new offense last year. Carr's rating may have increased but do you think Vick's is not going to. Is he just going to amount to a nobody. Carr finally had a decent season and still only threw 2 more TD's than Vick. Not to mention over a 100 more pass attempts. Again only time is gonna tell on how Mike Vick and David Carr turns out.</div>

    No, Carr will be better, the writing is on the wall(and stat book, and field) He is the better passer. He is more accurate, better arm, and way smarter.</div>

    Stat book and field. Well stats show Mike Vick has had a better career thus far. Better QB rating. Better TD to INT ratio, and a better record. Plus he has only been a starter for 2 seasons. I'll give you accuracy but better arm no. If he is so much more smarter is numbers would be a lot better than Vicks. Not similar.</div>

    Kinda of silly to compare who has had better carreer, when they neither has started 48 games. Carr reached the point last year where he proved he has ability to be elite QB.Vick hasnt. That is the bottom line
     
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    A rating of just 83 isn't an elite QB. Neither is 16 TD's and 14 INT's. Like I said we will no soon enough especially if Roddy White emerges.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>A rating of just 83 isn't an elite QB. Neither is 16 TD's and 14 INT's. Like I said we will no soon enough especially if Roddy White emerges.</div>

    How many 1st rd pick recievers does he need to suceed?
     
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    Well Andre Johnson has emerged for Carr and look what he did. Maybe in a year or 2 White can emerge for Vick.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well Andre Johnson has emerged for Carr and look what he did. Maybe in a year or 2 White can emerge for Vick.</div>

    You could flip that around, johnson emerged becuase of carr.
     
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    No not at all. Carr couldn't make Jabar Gaffney a 2nd rnd pick and he couldn't make Corey Bradford who is a decent #3 any better. Why would he make Andre Johnson. Plus Carr's numbers aren't that good. 16 TD's and 14 INT's isn't that good of a year.
     

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