<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-E-T-S 1083)</div><div class='quotemain'>And truthfully i dont think Falcon fans really care how good or bad Vick is right now. All they know is that they won 11 games last year and almost made it to the Superbowl. So who cares if Vick is a bad qb and doesnt rack up those passing yards, with 11 wins no one looks at the stats but people who are bored and want to critize someone.</div> Amen to that. This needs to be the final statement of the whole argument.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-E-T-S 1083)</div><div class='quotemain'>And truthfully i dont think Falcon fans really care how good or bad Vick is right now. All they know is that they won 11 games last year and almost made it to the Superbowl. So who cares if Vick is a bad qb and doesnt rack up those passing yards, with 11 wins no one looks at the stats but people who are bored and want to critize someone.</div> Amen to that. This needs to be the final statement of the whole argument.</div> I am going to post some more info myself. Although i will understand if you dont want to continue the debate
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-E-T-S 1083)</div><div class='quotemain'>And truthfully i dont think Falcon fans really care how good or bad Vick is right now. All they know is that they won 11 games last year and almost made it to the Superbowl. So who cares if Vick is a bad qb and doesnt rack up those passing yards, with 11 wins no one looks at the stats but people who are bored and want to critize someone.</div> Amen to that. This needs to be the final statement of the whole argument.</div> I am going to post some more info myself. Although i will understand if you dont want to continue the debate</div> Well have fun then. I'm just glad the Falcons are winning, I was getting tired of seeing losing records season after season. As long as Vick and the boys keep up their winning ways, I could really care less. When we start losing and Vick is just doing nothing for the team then I may start to see things in a different light. Until then we will just have to wait and see what goes down and if Vick improves (which he will).
hmmmmmmmmmm some coments that stand out. 1. 4 or 5 people agree that Mike Vick is a good QB with potential. Thats more than 1. 2. How did Vick destroy Price. To much blame there since Vick has played 1 season with Price. 3. BF1 stats mean nothing. It's about winning. So keep posting your info but I am very stubborn and won't give up. 4. I have owned you with stats so far.
Vick isnt a good because of his passing skills, it is his unbelievble running and his passing combined to win football games. Winning games is the only stat that really matters. If you take away his running ablity he hasnt learned to throw the ball effectively. Once he learns how to do that he will be feared like Peyton Manning
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>hmmmmmmmmmm some coments that stand out. 1. 4 or 5 people agree that Mike Vick is a good QB with potential. Thats more than 1. 2. How did Vick destroy Price. To much blame there since Vick has played 1 season with Price. 3. BF1 stats mean nothing. It's about winning. So keep posting your info but I am very stubborn and won't give up. 4. I have owned you with stats so far.</div> LOL, you are almost as arrogant as I am. Too bad you arent right like me
Right. LOL If thats what you need to think to make yourself feel better than think it. I don't care but I am waiting for this info that is going to be so "good" it will change my mind about Vick.
This is why I don't bother. Everyone is too arrogant to change their views on this subject anyway. I'm not complaining though, arrogance is great, but BF1 you my friend need to see that Porky and I are right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Right. LOL If thats what you need to think to make yourself feel better than think it. I don't care but I am waiting for this info that is going to be so "good" it will change my mind about Vick.</div> I am not trying to change your mind
Good just making sure. I still don't see this info but until Vick starts loosing games you got nothing.
Vick is bound to get hurt next year. He got a MRI on something this off season for a hit that he got from a panther, i think it might have been the hit by Fields
I think he will be find. A lot of people considered Maghee "injury proned" but he seemed just find last year. If Vick does get hurt though the Falcons season might and probably will go down the drain.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick is bound to get hurt next year. He got a MRI on something this off season for a hit that he got from a panther, i think it might have been the hit by Fields</div> Yeah, it was an MRI on his shoulder I believe. I pray to God he doesn't get hurt because if he does there goes our season.
It's great to see a Falcon and a Panther fan getting along. LOL Now if only everyone could get a long with theri arch rivals.
Did you see that play against Carolina when it was like 4th and 15 with the game on the line, and vick ran and leaped. He did like a superman jump from 5 yards. He was like floating above the ground. And got into the endzone. I was like how could someone do that. That is why he is one of the elite QBs. He can win games and that is what matters
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did you see that play against Carolina when it was like 4th and 15 with the game on the line, and vick ran and leaped. He did like a superman jump from 5 yards. He was like floating above the ground. And got into the endzone. I was like how could someone do that. That is why he is one of the elite QBs. He can win games and that is what matters</div> You would rather have a quarterback that RUNS and give up an adequate passing game. Yes, Vick makes exciting runs, but in four years, has only finshed two of them. Why? Because he does exactly what panthersare#1 described above. The TRUTH is that Michael Vick takes foolishly high risks with low returns because even he doesn't believe in his ability to throw the football. The TRUTH is that Michael Vick will probably have problems with injuries because teams will be teeing off on him because he can't hurt them consistantly through the air. The TRUTH is that while Vick may win a bunch of games in a now lackluster NFC, he will watch real QBs win Championships because teams need a more balanced offense to consistantly beat good football teams. THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH is that Michael Vick in NOT an elite QB. You can't be an elite QB with a passer rating of 76.9. That's just plain silly. I would be courious to hear an explaination of how Vick supporters so willingly gives up the forward pass for a few rushing highlights. By the way, I wonder how Falcon superstars like Keith Brooking, Patrick Kearney, Warrick Dunn, T.J. Duckett, Alge Crumpler, DeAngelo Hall and Brady Smith must feel knowing that the only reason they win ballgames is because of Michael Vick.
first of all, i posted this on another topic... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crazybacon)</div><div class='quotemain'>IMO, as a qb, in the classic definition, meaning having to be a field general and a passer, he is definitely not in the top half of the league, probably bottom 10....but as a fan of a team that faces him twice a year, he is probably the most dangerous player in the league...my guess is that coaches just feel that he has too much talent to only get the ball when it is thrown or handed to him and are betting that he can become a competent field general/passer in addition to the qualities he already possesses...in watching him play, i can't remember him beating us as a passer, only with his feet...i have doubts of his ability to be a top level qb, in the classic definition</div> i stand by those statements...vick is a great FOOTBALL PLAYER, but not a great qb, at least not yet as for the play discussed above, that burns me...panthersare#1, i am here to tell you that if we had played him to run, we would most likely have won...he had not beaten us all day with his arm, but with the game on the line, we played the pass....we played to defend his weakness, not his strength...watch the replay...as for the run he made, it was a great one, and one that will always make me sick to watch...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. http://www.philmucci.com/Port%20Images/kordellstewart.jpg</div> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL thats a freaking riot.....too bad Vick can't throw as good as Kordell...hahahahaha
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did you see that play against Carolina when it was like 4th and 15 with the game on the line, and vick ran and leaped. He did like a superman jump from 5 yards. He was like floating above the ground. And got into the endzone. I was like how could someone do that. That is why he is one of the elite QBs. He can win games and that is what matters</div> You would rather have a quarterback that RUNS and give up an adequate passing game. Yes, Vick makes exciting runs, but in four years, has only finshed two of them. Why? Because he does exactly what panthersare#1 described above. The TRUTH is that Michael Vick takes foolishly high risks with low returns because even he doesn't believe in his ability to throw the football. The TRUTH is that Michael Vick will probably have problems with injuries because teams will be teeing off on him because he can't hurt them consistantly through the air. The TRUTH is that while Vick may win a bunch of games in a now lackluster NFC, he will watch real QBs win Championships because teams need a more balanced offense to consistantly beat good football teams. THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH is that Michael Vick in NOT an elite QB. You can't be an elite QB with a passer rating of 76.9. That's just plain silly. I would be courious to hear an explaination of how Vick supporters so willingly gives up the forward pass for a few rushing highlights. By the way, I wonder how Falcon superstars like Keith Brooking, Patrick Kearney, Warrick Dunn, T.J. Duckett, Alge Crumpler, DeAngelo Hall and Brady Smith must feel knowing that the only reason they win ballgames is because of Michael Vick. </div> WOW you continue to preach nonsense. Give it up. THE TRUTH is Mike Vick is a huge reason why they win football games. The TRUTH is he is still young and can get better. The TRUTH is not many teams have won SB's with the dominace of NE. SO what 2 QB's in the last 4 years. The TRUTH is Vick has only been a starter for 2 years. After 2 years of starting his QB rating is no different from a lot of NFL QB's after their first 2 years. As for the Falcons superstars why don't you ask them. Wait I can answer that they will say Mike Vick is a huge part of why we win games. I think it's been said before by teammates. Again dolfan you have failed as a "football guardian"
