<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's springtime in Toronto. The sun is shining, birds are singing, leaves are emerging on the trees. And Jamaal Magloire is at home, literally and figuratively. Toronto pulses through Magloire's veins. Every fall when it comes time to rejoin the New Orleans Hornets, it pains the Toronto native. "Well, I'm excited to be home," Magloire said yesterday before taking a shift behind the counter at a McDonald's restaurant at Finch and McCowan as part of McHappy Day, which raises funds for charities. "I never want to leave. You guys have known from Day 1, I love Toronto. It's hard for me to go back to New Orleans in October. Hopefully one day I'll be here and be able to do this each and every month." </div> Source
Only if Babcock could pull off a trade with NO that'll bring JM to his hometown.. He'll be a solid addition to the frontcourt of the Raps,, and could be a mentor to Sow and Araujo.
Hopefully the Hornets like Hoffa and expiring contracts (Murray). Then maybe their GM might be able to give us Magloire for them. ...Even if the NO GM offered Babcock that deal, he'll probably turn it down.
I think a deal can be worked out, but the Raptors might have to give up their first round pick. Would you, as Raptor fans deal your 1st round pick + fillers to get Magloire?
If it was our 16th pick then YES I would do it in a heartbeat. But we can still get some very talented players with our first 1st round pick. I saw we hold onto that pick for dear life!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think a deal can be worked out, but the Raptors might have to give up their first round pick. Would you, as Raptor fans deal your 1st round pick + fillers to get Magloire?</div> No, especially not the lottery pick. I wouldn't give the 16th pick because this draft is fairly deep, and is very valuable towards the future. Unless Babs makes another mistake, then I would rather keep the 16th and pick with it. With both of these picks, we will have a core set for the future with Bosh, (The Lottery Pick), (16th Pick), and maybe Hoffa if he improves. Plus, one of our 2nd rounders can easily be a steal. I know it's hard to get a center like Magloire through trades or draft, but I wanna see how Pape does playing everyday against the bigs, and honestly, I would rather have a young core.
I dont think that babcock would do such a trade. first of all, magloire isnt exactly always healthy. secondly, if he decides to trade for magloire then it would mean that he admitted he made a mistake. And thirdly, if we trade hoffa in the deal, would the NO gm ACTUALLY do the trade after the season hoffa had?? if i was the NO gm i would think about this offer very clearly...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dabigboshdog:</div><div class="quote_post">And thirdly, if we trade hoffa in the deal, would the NO gm ACTUALLY do the trade after the season hoffa had?? </div> NO is rebuilding anyway, it'll benefit them to have younger guys with much lower salaries. (Magloire's $5 mil. vs. Hoffa's $1 mil.) Or we can trade Lamond Murray's expiring contract for Magloire's. If they want a first round pick, I say we give up the 2006 first round pick from Denver (VC trade). Think about it,, we're talking about a team that gave up Baron Davis for practically nothing (Dale Davis & Speedy Claxton), and a team that also gave up Jim Jackson for Casey Jacobsen after he refused to report. If I'm the Hornets' GM, I'd seriously consider building the team around JR Smith and the lottery pick they'll have come June 28th, and ship out PJ Brown and Jamaal Magloire.
^^ tru say...but the thing is hoffa has the potential and most players do. however, potential is something that goes to waste easily. i'm not sure if someone would take THIS bag of a gamble over a sure thing in magloire
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dabigboshdog:</div><div class="quote_post">^^ tru say...but the thing is hoffa has the potential and most players do. however, potential is something that goes to waste easily. i'm not sure if someone would take THIS bag of a gamble over a sure thing in magloire</div> Hoffa does have some potential, and like you said it might go to waste or it might turn out good. But I don't see how it would be a gamble since Hoffa is under contract for only 2 more years plus a team option for one more year at around $1 million per year. Jamaal Magloire has 2 years remaining at $5 mil per year. So,, $2 mil / 2 years vs. $10 mil / 2 years. Which one would you take if you were rebuilding?
Obviously ide take Magloire. hes an all star who can average 20 and 10 in the east, which hes proven. imagine bosh n magloire starting together, wede be a really good team. i think that going into 2005 our lineup could be: pg raymond felton (7th pick) sg mo peterson sf jalen rose pf chris bosh n c jammal magloire, 6th man chris taft (16th pick) we could win the atlantic with that lineup. Torontos on its way back up
Felton with the 7th wouldn't be a complete waste but it also wouldn't be the best pick. And with 16th pick,, Chris Taft? Are you kidding? I think you got it flipped.. Taft is closer to being picked anywhere from the 6th to 11th and Felton would be closer to be picked in the range of 10th to 15th. If I was Babcock,, I wouldn't gamble in getting a big in this draft.. Just get two guards/forwards in the first round and maybe pick a PG and a project big man in the second round.
Rumor (I got this from a friend who works for a paper, but it has no real credibility, it's solely a rumor) Raptors get: C Jamal Magloire, G Speedy Claxton Hornets get: Raptors 2005 1st round pick (lottery), C Rafael Araujo, F Pape Sow What do the Raptor fans think about this deal?
Hell no, Magloire and Claxton for the lottery pick, Hoffa AND Sow? We want Magloire but we don't want him THAT bad. Especially if it involves the 05 lottery pick then it's a 100% no.
whoa...that would be a bad trade. we lose a lottery pick an old lottery pick and a pf that has a TON of potential and is actually using it...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">Hoffa does have some potential, and like you said it might go to waste or it might turn out good. But I don't see how it would be a gamble since Hoffa is under contract for only 2 more years plus a team option for one more year at around $1 million per year. Jamaal Magloire has 2 years remaining at $5 mil per year. So,, $2 mil / 2 years vs. $10 mil / 2 years. Which one would you take if you were rebuilding?</div> Jamaal Magloire. It's not likely that Hoffa will become the All-Star caliber player Magloire was at the age of 26 and at right now. Magloire is straight up a better overall player and has all the tools to stay better and fundamentals than offer. He's only 2 years older than Hoffa with 4 years more experience. Plus, 5 Million per year for a All-Star center is a steal and bargain to say the least.
5 mil is almost as same as Alston. Think about that... Alston isnt even close to becoming an all-star anytime soon. Magloire is such a better fit for the Hornets and if you want to rebuild then Magloire would be a good player to build him on...
Although after consideration, I don'tliekt aht deal one bit, I would actually consider it if I were rob Babkcck - or atleast make a counter offer. I would do anything to give him a pick(or two) that aren't form the lottery. I would ahte to give up Sow after all the Raptors have done to actually keep him, but this fix is actually a good one in the short run. Not to mention, I would love to see Magloire in Toronto. He was injured hits year, but I think he can actually kick it up soon to better than he was two seasons ago. It would put some more fans in the seasts and rejuvenate him. Speedy cclaxton would also give our back court some more stability. But as for Sow, he is raw, but from what I saw late in the season he actually looks good. As for Hoffa, I plain never liekd him, but I know he is talented and thats semi-good trade bait.
I could see something coming out of this. NO's GM says he won't trade him, but they are thin at the point so depending on where they fall in the lottery (ie: no chance to draft C.Paul) They might entertain offers for a PG. Then there would be the chance to trade maybe next years 1st rounder from Denver and Alston for Magloire. Would Babcock move this years #16? Dunno but with the amount of decent points in the draft we could expect to get one to replace Alston, Felton, Jack, and maybe pick up a Brevin Knight or Jay Williams in free agency. There could be more spare parts that would have to be tossed in on both sides, maybe a big for NO (Sow or Hoffa...depending on who Babcock likes more) and maybe a draft pick or Speedy from NO. They have Dickau but he is a free agent and has the possibility that this year was just a flash in the pan. I would think that they would want some insurance. Claxton was supposed to be but he is hurt a lot so that could be questionable. Whaddya think?
oh ya forgot...by doing something like this it would free up N.O. to draft Marvin Williams or Bogut as they would then have their point guard situation solidified.
