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  1. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Okafor is playing tonight and already has 25 minutes, with the fourth qtr about to start.
    Noel has 12 minutes
    Embid, DNPCD

    Wizzards up by 18 with 9+ minutes left in the game.
     
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    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    So, what's the truth, old chum?
     
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    We are getting Embiid!?!?!? YES!
     
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  5. H.C.

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    (only responding because again, a poster on s2 puts words in my mouth. Who knew that would happen.)

    First off... I said average defender, and average shooter. You can't possibly be saying Harkless is an above average shooter can you? While I don't think so, I could see Harkless as an above average defender... But not shooter, Career 31% shooter from three is not average in the NBA. Harkless isn't even shooting a career high from three this year.... And he's still just league average.... If you say, "oh well philly is paying for potential because Harkless is young".. Well there are plenty of young players they could get with that pick... Could they not? I mean it's a "deep draft"............................

    But to humor you... players who are better/equal to harkless that haven't/have entered their prime.
    Carrol, Barnes, Gallo, Wiggins, Crowder, Batum, Hayward, Harris, Shumpert, Parker, Ross, Turner.
    I'm sure if I wasn't thinking of names off the top of my head I could come up with more average defenders/shooters who play SF that haven't/have entered their prime. I wonder if any of the players I named foul as much as Harkless has this year? Maybe I'll look it up later...
    Harkless is an average small forward in the NBA... there are plenty in the league... If there wasn't then Harkless would have actually got an offer in RFA from a team not named the Portland TrailBlazers. Instead he received no other offer.


    I actually understood it perfectly. What you didn't understand/read is that if the draft is so "deep" then Philly could find a average small forward on a rookie contract. Which, and I'm sorry I don't understand business... Or so I've been told on these boards. A rookie contract is less $$$ than an average of 10.5 million a year correct. With just as many years as Harkless is under due to TO.
    Maybe not the top pick? But def anywhere that Protected Laker pick could land....
    But hey... Philly could also get a chance at that top 7 pick or did you say 6? I'd say keeping that pick has far more value than letting it go for an average NBA SF when there are plenty of them around... Business + a chance Philly lands in the range "before the big drop off".
    (BTW, the "no drop off between 8-20" is really a poor opinion, so far from the draft... To name a few things that can improve draft stock... Combine & workouts. So I just don't believe that.. Rivers is a prime example as to why I don't believe it.. Yes I could name others... Theres at least one on the Blazers)

    I find it funny that you're using one of the worst organizations in the NBA as an example... When is the last time(outside of DMC) that Sac drafted a good NBA player? Oh I know, the guy every other organization passed on at least once as well... Yet couldn't play for them... But is now on the Celtics tearing it up.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Kings_draft_history

    TL;DR
    More value for Philly in keeping the pick and having a chance to land before the "big drop off".
    More value for Philly in keeping the pick and landing outside the "big drop off", yet still in the lotto.
    Harkless is an average defender & shooter, names listed above.
    Harkless + pick won't net a defensive stud like Noel + a pick that has a chance to get in before expects say there is a "big drop off".
    If WoJ somehow announces in a couple hours on twitter that Portland has acquired Noel+Lakers protected pick for Harkless+pick I'll happily eat crow.
    But it aint happening.
     
  6. KeepOnRollin

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    Okafor put up 26 pts and 9 rbs tonight in 35 mins (and probably mixed in with some bad defense on his behalf). Showcase?
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm the only one being accused of nose picking in this thread.
     
  8. BonesJones

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    "There are many young players his size in the league, who are average shooters(for a season), who rarely can get their own shot, who are average defenders, and who foul a lot."

    Shumpert? Not young, 4 inches shorter
    Gallo? Not going, bad defender
    Barnes? $22M a year
    Wiggins, Hayward? Not attainable
    Carroll? Not young, mor expensive
    Batum? $25M a year, not young
    Harris? 5 inches shorter
    Parker? Not attainable
    Ross? Below average defender, shorter, probably not attainable
    Turner? Not young, $16M a year not adverb an average shooter

    So how is there so many better options for Philadelphia for their SF of the future?
     
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    Please show me where I said it would. I simply brought up an idea that I think is possible.
     
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    There also almost no chance it's top 7. Lakers have played an extremely hard schedule. Harkless is above average defender, moves great without the ball (something Simmons + Embiid would love, is a good rebounder, and developing into an above average shooter. He has no weaknesses, and is only 23.
     
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    And I think they'd rather have Harkless+Lydon+Hart over Noel+Markkanen. There's a few guys lower than 7th that will be better than Harkless, we just don't know who. Put one specific player (Anunoby, Markkanen, Bridges, etc.) against Harkless, and I like Harkless odds to be a better player. You don't?
     
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    Trade coming at 9:01pm?
     
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    Either there show casing Okafor that had 35 minutes and Noel only 13 minutes Okafor put some really good stats Noel limit time was very impress with 12 boards no blocks.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I JUST SAW NERLENS NOEL IN OUR HOTEL LOBBY.....THAT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING RIGHT!!!!!
     
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    Not really maybe Philly sharing same hotel.
     
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    When did you get traded to the sixers?
     
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    It means The HCP is trying to pull the newbs legs again.


    FAMS!
     
  18. Driew

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    I know you're joking but I think the 76ers played in DC tonight haha
     
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    Yeah I knew they were in DC tonight playing. Like @Trackjack Mentioned I'm sure they are in the same hotel.
     
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    I think we may be making too much of Harkless being held out; it appears he really did have an injury.

    here is what Harkless said: "It’s been bugging me for the past few games. I’ve been played through it, but it’s starting to get worse."
    I think if he was being traded that he would be too annoyed to make any comment.
     
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