Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 . Donovan McNabb2. T.O.3. Ray Lewis4. Eli Manning5. Marty Schottenheimer6. Jake Plummer7. Mike Martz8. David Carr9. Charles Woodson10. Whoever kicks field goals for New EnglandInteresting that McNabb would be on the top of the list!http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9550200
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 Why not? He has to do it. He has no offense with him, and yes we know as Cowboy and Redskin fans that Eagle fans will flame me.For others up there, Ray Lewis won't get it done and neither will T.O. Hell I don't think anyone up there will get it done except maybe McNabb.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jul 13 2006, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why not? He has to do it. He has no offense with him, and yes we know as Cowboy and Redskin fans that Eagle fans will flame me.For others up there, Ray Lewis won't get it done and neither will T.O. Hell I don't think anyone up there will get it done except maybe McNabb.</div>I really am having a hardtime understanding why people keep saying T.O. is going to be a bust.We are talking about one of the best WRs to have played the GAME.Yes it's the Cowboys witha shaky offensive line.Statistically, Beldsoe was staying on his feet and was making Terry Glenn look like an allstar.Bledsoes numbers week 1-6 with Flozell in the line-up:277 yards per game passing1.83 TDs per game.6 INT per game2.16 sacks per gameAfter week 6 with Flozell out of the lineup:198 yards per game passing1.2 TDs per game1.3 INTs per game3.6 sacks per gameLook at the fluctuation! He loses nearly 80 yards per game passing and .6 of a TD per game while throwing consistently more interceptions and being put on the dirt a full sack more per game.Now tell me F. Adams appearance isn't that effective.Ask Terry Glenn:His numbers up to week 6:29 Receptions 582 yards and 3 TDs while AVERAGING 97 yards per game and .5 TD per gameAFTER Flozells injury:33 receptions 548 yards and 4 TD while averaging only 54.8 yards per game and .4 TD.In the 10 games after the injury TG couldn't even match his yardage mark and barely made it past his receptions and TD mark for 6 GAMES.Terry's career stats??523 receptions 7776 yards and 38 TDTerrell Owens career stats??716 Receptions 10535 yards and 101 TDsIf you're telling me that a man who's putting up those stats is not going to be more successful than Terry Glenn did while having a healthy Flozell Adams AND an improved offensive line with Rivera in the system for a year as well as Rob Petiti having a years experience and playing well enough to be in the starting lineup for the whole season.------Now, we have more weapons. We've brought in a BLOCKING Tight End and drafted another solid TE to work in with a two TE set. Therefore that gives them the option to either BLOCK or go out for a pass. With these pass catchers and TG and T.O. on the outside catching passes and with two RBs in the backfield who have great potential I don't see teams being able to blitz us that much. T.O. will not be a bust. Our offensive line is HEALTHY and IMPROVED.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 Great post and im sure that getting back Adams will help, but all they have accomplished this offseason was moving where the revolving door was to wherever Kyle Kosier or Jason Fabini is playing. Fabini is the man solely responsible for getting Pennington and Fiedler injured with his missed assignments and Kyle Kosier was basically ran out of San Francisco and then Detroit. He isnt very good.....trust me, you guys will be missing Larry Allen alot.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 13 2006, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great post and im sure that getting back Adams will help, but all they have accomplished this offseason was moving where the revolving door was to wherever Kyle Kosier or Jason Fabini is playing. Fabini is the man solely responsible for getting Pennington and Fiedler injured with his missed assignments and Kyle Kosier was basically ran out of San Francisco and then Detroit. He isnt very good.....trust me, you guys will be missing Larry Allen alot.</div>Larry Allen is still one of the best Guards in the league. I think everyone here will agree with me when I say that the Tackle position is much more important than the Guard position. There are tackles getting paid money more than some of the best skill position players in the league are making.I sincerely regret seeing Larry Allen go, he was a staple of that offensive line. Obviously, it is in the Staffs opinion that he is more of a liability rather than an asset to the line with his fat paycheck and lackluster fitness training, he was always out of breath. It really seemed like he was a big body to get around. Only time will tell how Fabini and Kosier pan out. Kosier is liked because of how versatile he is, he can play the whole offensive line if need be. That helps because we have a tendency to get injured . Fabini will be competing for a starting role behind rookie Rob Petiti.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 Why won't T.O. be a bust? Oh I know why, because your a Cowboy fan
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Jul 13 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why won't T.O. be a bust? Oh I know why, because your a Cowboy fan </div>Good rebuttal.I provide you with facts and information rather than being a homer like some of these other chumps and you can't even come up with a rebuttal.Want to know why T.O. will be a bust? Because you're a 'skins fan and Cowboys suck right?
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 13 2006, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great post and im sure that getting back Adams will help, but all they have accomplished this offseason was moving where the revolving door was to wherever Kyle Kosier or Jason Fabini is playing. Fabini is the man solely responsible for getting Pennington and Fiedler injured with his missed assignments and Kyle Kosier was basically ran out of San Francisco and then Detroit. He isnt very good.....trust me, you guys will be missing Larry Allen alot.</div>Would we all agree that Parcell's is a Hall of Fame coach? And I'm sure that everyone who know's football would say yes. Just a reminder, he took 3 different teams to the playoffs. He took a Patroit team that was only in the NFL by name alone...there wasn't much of a team. As with the Jets at that time.So it's very hard for me to believe that he doesn't not know what he's doing with our offensive line. Come on now? Last year was nothing more that a building season. Every coach's goal is to get to the playoffs. But in the case of Parcell's who brought in the 3-4 defense, which is very difficult to learn, and starting or played 5 - 6 rookies (and he did mention at the beginning of last year that he was committed to developing young talent, which he did) he knew that making the playoffs was pushing it. As a matter of fact, he was on Sirius radio and he mention exactly what I'm saying now. So Parcell's knows what he's doing. If he can go 9-6 (and could have made the playoffs if Adams hadn't went down) in a year where he brought in a new defense and playing all of those rookies, imagine what the plan is for this year. Think about it. A new defense? A rookie on the offensive line? A rookie OLB? Two rookie DE? Did you actually think that Parcell's what thinking playoffs? Of course he wanted to get here, all coaches want that but come on. That's why I NEVER thought for one minute he would retire. After one year of putting in a 3-4 defense? No way!But now this year it's a different story...Our line is better than it was last year before Adams went down. We have depth. And if you think for one minute that teams are going to blitz us, than bring it on. And that's exactly what Washington did to us without Flozell. Which was smart on their part because they don't have great pressure from their DE's. Now if that was to happen, TO will eat them up! So with bring the blitz simply means either someone will be open (because it's impossible to cover TO, Glenn, Witten, and whoever coming out of the backfield and not to mention Fascano or Crayton) or in single coverage. And if you remember, when the Eagles played Denver. The Bronco's blitz and McNabb hit TO on a 4 yard pass and he went all the way, something like 92 yards...on Champ Bailey. That's one of the things that TO brings to the table. He's simply a threat that can't be ignored. He'll demand double and sometimes triple coverage. Glenn will get double because he was doubled all last year and still managed to get 1100+ yards.So this year it will be pick your poison. There will not be nearly as many blitz packages coming at Dallas. So Parcell's know exactly what he's doing. So there's no need for all the talk about the O-Line.Now the concern if anything will be at Safety but I do think that a 6'5", 200lbs guy who runs a 4.5 will fit pretty good in Parcell's system. Unlike last year when we had 2 strong safetys trying to play FS (unless of course, you have someone like Darren Woodson or someone like that who's been around and knows the position). It just doesn't work at all. And last year was proof of that. So actually I'm feeling pretty good about our offense against any defense in the NFC East. Especially Washington's, who's doing exactly what Dallas tried to do with playing 2 SS instead of a true FS. And before you Washington fans comment just look at the stats and game film. Taylor was getting burnt just like Williams did. Archuleta had 70 tackles in 14 games (and after 5 years he's only had 2 complete seasons), and Keith Davis had 66 and didn't start all the games. Williams had 81 tackles in 16 games versus Taylor's 70 in 15 games. So the play of safety last year was pretty much the same. And if you click the link at the bottom, it will take you to NFL.com and as you can see Washington and Dallas was almost identical in defense. In the NFC we are ranked behind Washington. Washington allowed 297.9 yds versus Dallas 300.9 yds. The defenses are pretty much the same. The difference now is that our rookies are no longer rookies, except Carpenter. And we are much younger than Washington. Maybe in the division. And I probably can make a case that each position on defense Dallas is better. Not all but the majority!Offensively, again click on the second link at the bottom. The only thing that separated Washington from Dallas was a lousy 5 yards per game. And that's with that busted up O-line that everyone keeps reminding us Cowboy fans about. So do the math, Washington didn't do much better than Dallas beside that one fluke game in DC. And yes, I did say fluke because if I mention how the Giants beat the brakes off of Washington 36-0, every fan of Washington would say it was a fluke. But to show that I'm a good sport, Washington beat the snotty out of us.So if you look at the off-season, who did better? And I'll argue to death that Washington did not have the better offseason. At best 3rd in the division.So enough with Dallas not winning the division, getting in the playoffs or finishing last in the division. According to what I see, if Washington can will the division so can Dallas and for that matter the Giants and Eagles as well. Now it's a matter of waiting until the games begin to see...because there's nothing that could convince the avid football fan (or in my case a coach) who know's football that Washington is better than Dallas or New York. Especially after looking at last years numbers and the offseason.Oh and AdropOFvenom I know you're not a Redskins fan so don't take it that I was coming down on your or anything...http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFC/DEF-...ar?sort_col_1=4http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFC/OFF-...ar?sort_col_1=4
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CipherCowboy @ Jul 13 2006, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But now this year it's a different story...Our line is better than it was last year before Adams went down. We have depth. And if you think for one minute that teams are going to blitz us, than bring it on. And that's exactly what Washington did to us without Flozell. Which was smart on their part because they don't have great pressure from their DE's. Now if that was to happen, TO will eat them up! So with bring the blitz simply means either someone will be open (because it's impossible to cover TO, Glenn, Witten, and whoever coming out of the backfield and not to mention Fascano or Crayton) or in single coverage. And if you remember, when the Eagles played Denver. The Bronco's blitz and McNabb hit TO on a 4 yard pass and he went all the way, something like 92 yards...on Champ Bailey. That's one of the things that TO brings to the table. He's simply a threat that can't be ignored. He'll demand double and sometimes triple coverage. Glenn will get double because he was doubled all last year and still managed to get 1100+ yards.So this year it will be pick your poison. There will not be nearly as many blitz packages coming at Dallas. So Parcell's know exactly what he's doing. So there's no need for all the talk about the O-Line.Now the concern if anything will be at Safety but I do think that a 6'5", 200lbs guy who runs a 4.5 will fit pretty good in Parcell's system. Unlike last year when we had 2 strong safetys trying to play FS (unless of course, you have someone like Darren Woodson or someone like that who's been around and knows the position). It just doesn't work at all. And last year was proof of that.</div>I have a question for you....how do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New England Patriots stopped the Indianapolis Colts high-powered offense, who have as impressive a Wide Reciever trio as anybody.... The truth is, they blitzed the Quarterback early and often. If the Quarterback cant throw the ball accurately and on time, the amount of targets you have at Wide Reciever is meaningless. The idea that T.O. is going to prevent teams from blitzing Dallas is flat out wrong, if anything its going to encourage blitzing because teams know they wont be able to stop T.O. so they will focus on stopping Bledsoe instead. Which in turn makes it imperative that your offensive line can keep Drew Bledsoe standing up right all-season long. And when were talking you guys losing argueably the best Guard of the past decade in Larry Allen and about Kyle Kosier, Jason Fabini and Rob Petitti who have to be the ones to solidify your offensive line, the odds arent in your favor. PS: Just because someone is a Hall-of-Fame head coach doesnt mean that he bats 100% in decision making. Even Joe Gibbs screwed up last season by starting Patrick Ramsey Week 1. Bill Belicheck didnt make the smartest decision when he let Ty Law go last offseason, ect.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jul 14 2006, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CipherCowboy @ Jul 13 2006, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But now this year it's a different story...Our line is better than it was last year before Adams went down. We have depth. And if you think for one minute that teams are going to blitz us, than bring it on. And that's exactly what Washington did to us without Flozell. Which was smart on their part because they don't have great pressure from their DE's. Now if that was to happen, TO will eat them up! So with bring the blitz simply means either someone will be open (because it's impossible to cover TO, Glenn, Witten, and whoever coming out of the backfield and not to mention Fascano or Crayton) or in single coverage. And if you remember, when the Eagles played Denver. The Bronco's blitz and McNabb hit TO on a 4 yard pass and he went all the way, something like 92 yards...on Champ Bailey. That's one of the things that TO brings to the table. He's simply a threat that can't be ignored. He'll demand double and sometimes triple coverage. Glenn will get double because he was doubled all last year and still managed to get 1100+ yards.So this year it will be pick your poison. There will not be nearly as many blitz packages coming at Dallas. So Parcell's know exactly what he's doing. So there's no need for all the talk about the O-Line.Now the concern if anything will be at Safety but I do think that a 6'5", 200lbs guy who runs a 4.5 will fit pretty good in Parcell's system. Unlike last year when we had 2 strong safetys trying to play FS (unless of course, you have someone like Darren Woodson or someone like that who's been around and knows the position). It just doesn't work at all. And last year was proof of that.</div>I have a question for you....how do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New England Patriots stopped the Indianapolis Colts high-powered offense, who have as impressive a Wide Reciever trio as anybody.... The truth is, they blitzed the Quarterback early and often. If the Quarterback cant throw the ball accurately and on time, the amount of targets you have at Wide Reciever is meaningless. The idea that T.O. is going to prevent teams from blitzing Dallas is flat out wrong, if anything its going to encourage blitzing because teams know they wont be able to stop T.O. so they will focus on stopping Bledsoe instead. Which in turn makes it imperative that your offensive line can keep Drew Bledsoe standing up right all-season long. And when were talking you guys losing argueably the best Guard of the past decade in Larry Allen and about Kyle Kosier, Jason Fabini and Rob Petitti who have to be the ones to solidify your offensive line, the odds arent in your favor. PS: Just because someone is a Hall-of-Fame head coach doesnt mean that he bats 100% in decision making. Even Joe Gibbs screwed up last season by starting Patrick Ramsey Week 1. Bill Belicheck didnt make the smartest decision when he let Ty Law go last offseason, ect.</div>You bring up some great points. First, I never said, and if I did than I'll corrected it, that Dallas wasn't going to lose games. I didn't say that they would steam roll anyone. What I said was that I like Dallas's offense against any team in the Division. Now onto the Steelers against the Colts. Which game are we talking about? The first game? Well the Colts offense was great that game. 366 yards (239 yards passing and 127 yards rushing) I would say that was pretty good. The second game, which the Colts lose and that was the meaningful game, still averaged over 300 yards. Let's not forget that the Colts have been in the the deep in the playoffs with those weapons a lot. With the Colts it's a matter of getting over the last hump. So to say that the Colts don't have success with it's weapons is crazy. Dallas is trying to get in the playoffs to have a shot at the big game. That's all. The Colts offense is very success and it Dallas could get to that level than I'll take it!And I wasn't saying that Dallas will not see any blitzes coming their way, but they will be better prepared for them. You have to blitz but you will not see it the majority of the games like last year. I would like to say that Dallas was probably blitzed more than any team in the NFC. What Dallas want other teams to see is that they can't blitz all the time but have to be selective when doing so.Correct you are about having to blitz. When you have a guy like TO but I can tell you from experience and by no means am I trying to compare my college coaching to the pro game, once you get burned with the blitz by a guy like TO, you think twice about doing it again. There are countless teams who were burnt by TO simply blitzing. And the Patriots, even though the won the Superbowl, was burnt by TO a few times and they layed off the blitzing. Now once you get burnt by someone like TO, you have to double him so that prevent some team not all but the majority, to not blitz because you have to use that extra guy on TO. I'm not at all saying that TO is going to be the MVP but his presence on the field will help the line.You are right again with Larry Allen being one of the best guards but if you've looked at Dallas's game when running to the outside, where Allen had to pull, we were horrible. Our best runs were up the middle and they were not on Larry's side of the ball. He's a great guard but his time has come and gone. If you're asking him to pass block than ok, he's good but with Parcell's we have to run and having your guards pull to either side. Now people hit on Kosier, and in no way and I comparing him to Allen, but he's a better pulling guard than Allen. Kosier is there because not only does he play guard and tackle but either side of the line. So that helps with depth. Petitti was pretty good last year until Flozell went down. Afterwards, he had problems. So thats where someone like Kosier or Fabini would come in with experience. And I don't think for one minute that Petitti will be on the bench at the start of the season. Again, look at how he played before Adams went down. And if you know football, that could hurt a young guy. And not to mention he's played all 16 games, so he has a little experience under the belt now. Fabini is a back up...not a starter. Again, nothing was wrong with Dallas's line last year until Flozell Adams went down. And Flozell is the key to the line.And P.S.S: You are right about HOF coaches, but correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Gibb's get his team to the playoff's last year? Apparently he knew what he was doing by not keeping Ramsey in the game. And after the change they went on to win that game against a pretty good defense. And again to the playoffs. So that comparsion doesn't hold water. That's what HOF coaches do. They see a problem and they fix it just as Coach Gibbs did. And anyone would be a fool to think that Gibbs wasn't going to get the Redskins back in the playoffs and possibly the Superbowl.Now apples and oranges with your talking about Ty Law. Bill Belichick wanted to keep Law but money was a big issue. It wasn't like he let him go because he didn't see his skills are something. It was money! So Belichick didn't make a mistaken in letting him go. Of course it hurt the team but this is a free agent game now a days.And (and I do mean this is a good way...seriously) AdropOFvenom, I've read a lot of things you post and for the most part you are pretty darn good with at least knowing what you're talking about. Or at least have the thought process of thinking stuff through unlike some people on here, who's way out there.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 11. Chad Pennington - It's a make or break year for Penny. If he's great he's rewarded, if he's not he'll likely end his career as a caddy to a young QB.12. Jamal Lewis - Mike Anderson is nipping at his heels for playing time, he's now 2 years removed from his 2000+ yard season. If he can't get it done for a 3rd year in a row, Anderson will take over and it'll be all over for the former rushing champ.
Re: 10 Who Must Get It Done in '06 Dom Rhodes like the guy above me said. He will get his chances, but if he can't hold on to the ball then he will be a backup for the rest of his career.
