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KingSpeed

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14 of them against sub 500 teams
13 at home

The table is set and it's winning time. How many do you have us winning and will it be enough?

I'm gonna hope for 13-9. I think that's realistic. At 38-44, is that enough to earn a date with the crumbling Warriors?
 
Whatever the number is that puts us at .5 games back or more of 8th is the number i want.
 
It seem much more possible now that the Blazer win enough to make the Playoffs....and thereby remain in basketball purgatory. Even if the Blazers somehow managed to upset the Warriors, it would due to injury, not due to being the better team. Getting to the 2nd round last year did nothing for the team this year.
 
KingSpeed said:
14 of them against sub 500 teams
13 at home

The table is set and it's winning time. How many do you have us winning and will it be enough?

I'm gonna hope for 13-9. I think that's realistic. At 38-44, is that enough to earn a date with the crumbling Warriors?
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No team with a losing record should be allowed in the playoffs.
 
TBpup said:
It seem much more possible now that the Blazer win enough to make the Playoffs....and thereby remain in basketball purgatory. Even if the Blazers somehow managed to upset the Warriors, it would due to injury, not due to being the better team. Getting to the 2nd round last year did nothing for the team this year.
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I disagree that the Blazers will be in basketball purgatory... they have the pieces to build a great team... Nurkic and Harkless are young studs, and three 1st rd picks. As soon as Neil realizes that Dame and CJ don't work together, we will get a nice player to go with Dame, Harkless, and Nurkic and be a legit contender.

Also, Id argue that increasing current rosters players value by making playoffs helps more in future trades than moving up a few spots in the draft.... unless you win lottery and get number 1 pick, getting pick 5 or 6 will not return a star in trade.
 
BBert said:
No team with a losing record should be allowed in the playoffs.
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Tell that to the Eastern Conference. Just two years ago, they had two teams with losing records make the playoffs, for the second time in 8 years. That capped a decade long stretch where the Eastern Conference had at least one playoff team with a losing record 8 times in 10 years.

So, what's the solution? Give the top seed a by? Do away with conferences and just take the 16 best teams?

I'd start by making it harder to form super teams with your super friends. The Heatles and Whorriors have destroyed parity in the league. When the top teams are winning a record number of games, it means fewer wins for everyone else.

If the playoffs were held today, the 8th seeds in both conferences would have losing records. Would the (currently 29-32) Pistons have any chance at all of upsetting the Cavs? Would the (currently 28-33) Nuggets stand a chance against the Warriors?

I'd also like to see the cutoff for playoff rosters be the same as the trade deadline. I think it's bullshit that the defending champs get to add ring chasing vets lake Deron Williams and Andrew Bogut to an already stacked roster. Those teams already have an unfair advantage in attracting free agents at below market rates during the off season. Plus, they also get to add more cheap ring chasers nearly 60 games into the regular season. That's bullshit.

BNM
 
BBert said:
No team with a losing record should be allowed in the playoffs.
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I kind of love this idea. Just give the top seed a bye in the first round if the eight seed is a loser.
 
ebott said:
I kind of love this idea. Just give the top seed a bye in the first round if the eight seed is a loser.
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The NBA would never go for that. Too much money at stake.

In the past, just doing away with the conferences and taking the top 16 teams would have solved the problem, but this year, it looks like there will only be a total of 14 teams with winning records. With CHI and IND both sitting at 31-30, that number could drop to as few as 12 teams with winning records. The NBA has become a league of the rich getting richer at the expense of the middle class.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Tell that to the Eastern Conference. Just two years ago, they had two teams with losing records make the playoffs, for the second time in 8 years. That capped a decade long stretch where the Eastern Conference had at least one playoff team with a losing record 8 times in 10 years.

So, what's the solution? Give the top seed a by? Do away with conferences and just take the 16 best teams?

I'd start by making it harder to form super teams with your super friends. The Heatles and Whorriors have destroyed parity in the league. When the top teams are winning a record number of games, it means fewer wins for everyone else.

If the playoffs were held today, the 8th seeds in both conferences would have losing records. Would the (currently 29-32) Pistons have any chance at all of upsetting the Cavs? Would the (currently 28-33) Nuggets stand a chance against the Warriors?

I'd also like to see the cutoff for playoff rosters be the same as the trade deadline. I think it's bullshit that the defending champs get to add ring chasing vets lake Deron Williams and Andrew Bogut to an already stacked roster. Those teams already have an unfair advantage in attracting free agents at below market rates during the off season. Plus, they also get to add more cheap ring chasers nearly 60 games into the regular season. That's bullshit.

BNM
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I think if your over the LT you shouldn't be able sign other players. Especially players that going make you even stronger.
 
TBpup said:
It seem much more possible now that the Blazer win enough to make the Playoffs....and thereby remain in basketball purgatory. Even if the Blazers somehow managed to upset the Warriors, it would due to injury, not due to being the better team. Getting to the 2nd round last year did nothing for the team this year.
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What is purgatory? Rockets were 8 seed last year, added a couple shooters, and are now what, 43-19? 8 seed doesn't mean 8 seed next year.
 
ebott said:
I kind of love this idea. Just give the top seed a bye in the first round if the eight seed is a loser.
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Conferences are not equal in strength enough to do this....the Blazers would have a much better record in the eastern conference every year...competition in the west is just brutal
 
Boob-No-More said:
Tell that to the Eastern Conference. Just two years ago, they had two teams with losing records make the playoffs, for the second time in 8 years. That capped a decade long stretch where the Eastern Conference had at least one playoff team with a losing record 8 times in 10 years.

So, what's the solution? Give the top seed a by? Do away with conferences and just take the 16 best teams?

I'd start by making it harder to form super teams with your super friends. The Heatles and Whorriors have destroyed parity in the league. When the top teams are winning a record number of games, it means fewer wins for everyone else.

If the playoffs were held today, the 8th seeds in both conferences would have losing records. Would the (currently 29-32) Pistons have any chance at all of upsetting the Cavs? Would the (currently 28-33) Nuggets stand a chance against the Warriors?

BNM
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The 2007-08 Hawks were sub. 500 and took the KG/Allen/Pierce to 7 games:

 
TBpup said:
It seem much more possible now that the Blazer win enough to make the Playoffs....and thereby remain in basketball purgatory. Even if the Blazers somehow managed to upset the Warriors, it would due to injury, not due to being the better team.
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Injuries happen every year. Would you not take the Warriors' 2015 championship because some of the Cavs were hurt? And does the 2016 championship not count for Cavs because the Warriors' Bogut got hurt?
 
TBpup said:
It seem much more possible now that the Blazer win enough to make the Playoffs....and thereby remain in basketball purgatory. Even if the Blazers somehow managed to upset the Warriors, it would due to injury, not due to being the better team. Getting to the 2nd round last year did nothing for the team this year.
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I for one was telling a lot my friends please do not make the playoffs last year it was pointless

But I'm glad we did now, so last year can be a case study for future reasons to use as an example when making it to the playoffs is pointless
 
Troy.Ave said:
I for one was telling a lot my friends please do not make the playoffs last year it was pointless

But I'm glad we did now, so last year can be a case study for future reasons to use as an example when making it to the playoffs is pointless
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They play games. The goal is to win. We can't forfeit. Last year was fun for as far as we got. It's entertainment. If I root for them to lose, it makes no difference. If your friends root for them to lose, it makes no difference. They won't suddenly play worse for our benefit.
 
Gronk Brady said:
I disagree that the Blazers will be in basketball purgatory... they have the pieces to build a great team... Nurkic and Harkless are young studs, and three 1st rd picks. As soon as Neil realizes that Dame and CJ don't work together, we will get a nice player to go with Dame, Harkless, and Nurkic and be a legit contender.

Also, Id argue that increasing current rosters players value by making playoffs helps more in future trades than moving up a few spots in the draft.... unless you win lottery and get number 1 pick, getting pick 5 or 6 will not return a star in trade.
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I agree that making the playoff might bolster some players value....as long as they aren't out in 4 or 5 games. As for picking around 5 or 6 and not getting a star, Steph Curry says hello. :welcome:
 
TBpup said:
Getting to the 2nd round last year did nothing for the team this year.
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...but what did/would it do for the fans?! Especially those looking to jump ship and not renew their season tickets for instance :dunno:
 
TBpup said:
I agree that making the playoff might bolster some players value....as long as they aren't out in 4 or 5 games. As for picking around 5 or 6 and not getting a star, Steph Curry says hello. :welcome:
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What I meant was the value of pick 5 or 6 in trade... obviously you can draft a star at any pick with some luck.

BTW, I agree with most of the things you post, and normally I'm all about the draft and getting as high a pick as possible, thus rooting for a tank when a season has gone south...

Unfortunately Lillard is in his prime now and we can't afford to wait on 18-19 year old to develope... and no matter how hard we wish to tank, it's not realistic to finish a bottom 5 team with real chance to move up in lotto considering our talent and remaining schedule...

So I see it as a pick in the 7-10 range with no playoffs and very slim chance to move up to top 3 or make the playoffs and have more confidence going into next year, plus increased player value to trade at the draf time.
 
I'd rather have a top 8 pick this year than 8th seed and out in 4 games.

Having a .500 record or 8th seed does not necessarily mean purgatory. It depends if the team is on its way up, on its way down, or stuck in the middle.

I'm sick of hearing that the only reason the Blazers advanced last season was due to injuries. Injuries happen. Injuries have happened to the Blazers that ruined our playoff chances more times than I'd care to remember. Fuck that noise.
 
Gronk Brady said:
What I meant was the value of pick 5 or 6 in trade... obviously you can draft a star at any pick with some luck.

BTW, I agree with most of the things you post, and normally I'm all about the draft and getting as high a pick as possible, thus rooting for a tank when a season has gone south...

Unfortunately Lillard is in his prime now and we can't afford to wait on 18-19 year old to develope... and no matter how hard we wish to tank, it's not realistic to finish a bottom 5 team with real chance to move up in lotto considering our talent and remaining schedule...

So I see it as a pick in the 7-10 range with no playoffs and very slim chance to move up to top 3 or make the playoffs and have more confidence going into next year, plus increased player value to trade at the draf time.
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Are there any 4 year college guys or others that can make immediate impact in draft? Dame was great in his first game. Embiid was great right away if you ignore his injuries. Blake Griffin was great right away.
 
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