4 players who shouldn't be back

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    That was kind of my point......so why dump them?
     
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    Yeah you don’t get rid of Sharpe yet. Let’s see what next year brings.
     
  3. julius

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    And furthermore, unless done sarcastically, to compare him to Banton is silly. You don't justify trading someone with the potential that Shaedon has, with someone who is 3.5 years older and in his 3rd year on his 3rd team finally has decent stats.

    Banton has the potential to be a backup 6th/7th man. Shaedon has the potential to be an all star.
     
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    Be easier to say the 4 players who SHOULD be back. Not sure we could get to 4, though.
     
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    Thybulle, Brogdon, and Grant should not be on the roster. They don't have good contracts and they aren't good enough to make a difference any time soon on the Blazers (in terms of contending). It depends on what we can get for them... I'd take second rounders and cap relief/to get out from under their deals) for Thybulle and Grant, and ideally we'd get a bit more for Brogdon but who knows?

    Simons slots in just fine with Scoot and Sharpe at the guard positions in my opinion. None of the three of them can stay healthy, so there should be plenty of minutes, and even if they ARE healthy, getting 32 minutes each (with Simons splitting time between the two guard spots) seems like a plan to me. Of course, if we could get the equivalent of Simons as a larger player, then I'd be willing to listen, or if we could get a couple firsts for him, then I'd do that, too... I just don't know that we can get that kind of value for him.
     
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    Isn't Shaedon LITERALLY the only player we have who has genuine star potential? Of course, he does seem to be injured A LOT, and his shooting sure deserted him in SL.
     
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    Here's a question: imagine you're picking players from our roster in order of "I want to keep them". What is that order? I'm trying to think who I'd pick first. It might be Jabari, although he was kind of a letdown this season. Sure can rebound like a motherfucker, though.
     
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    @SlyPokerDog--when are we getting that dislike button?
     
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    It's really difficult to know how Grant could have fit in. We just don't know. I think it would have been better if Billups had tried to slowly build a team offense instead of trying to win games with Grant iso play.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Agreed with most of what you said, tho Im fine if they keep Matisse (also fine if they trade him). I'm the same with with Anfernee (round peg, square hole sorta thing).

    But I don't know if I'd say that Shaedon can't stay healthy. He played 80 games last year, and part of me wonders if the surgery he had was like the MF of the modern era.

    And I think a lot of Simons injuries were tank related, in that if the team wasn't either A: sucking ass and tanking and B: actually competing for something, he'd play.
     
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    I think Grant was acquired to play along with Dame in Joes attempt to build around O.
     
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    Scoot. Sharpe.
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Walker
    Rupert

    And that's about it, unless we extend young to ~24 or 25, in which case Camara, Simons and Ayton are all on my "I'd like to keep" list (although the latter two obviously are being paid a lot and don't seem to be producing more than their contract value).

    We have very limited young talent on this team, which is why I think we need to go into an actual tank/rebuild situation rather than half-assing it and still having a terrible team.
     
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    So you're saying you'd cut Rupert first? Did you look at our COMPLETE roster?
     
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    Seems pretty clear he'd cut everyone except Scoot, Sharpe and Walker before he'd cut Rupert.
     
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    Yeah, I meant that Scoot and Sharpe are CLEARLY priority keepers for me, then there's a gap, then it's Walker and then Rupert and... that's it.
     
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    No posting until after the Ayuhuasca trip please.
     
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    He didn't play a single game for Kentucky the year before we drafted him, so that's two out of the last three years essentially lost.

    I hope to goodness that he's just hit a couple of bumps in the road and that he can stay healthy and wants to play basketball, but he has a red flag there (to me) in a way lots of young guys don't.
     
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    We have 14 players signed for next year. I would be leaning towards using both our first round picks because drafting is always a crap shoot, especially this year, and taking a chance on one really breaking out is the way to go, unless there is clearly a guy. So it seems that we have to trade one player at least or a two for one.
     
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    Injury is not the reason he didn't play for Kentucky.
     
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