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  1. Philly_Freak93

    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    David boston is a cancer. TO is not. ill explain

    David boston is a young guy with a attitude, record, being watched by the NFL for serious reasons, and could be responsible for taking a SD team that looked allright 2 years ago to a crap team this year. he cause problems with the SD org. was suspended 2 diff. time by his coach, and barely had a good year. 70 catches is ok, not great.

    TO is a wiser and more mature man(bare with me). he has no record, no suspensions(that i know of), and is being watched by the NFL only because he is a threat to celebrate in the endzone. he never had a problem with anyone untill Jerry Rice and steve young left. then he had problems with mooch and garcia. i believe that he was a distraction this year becasue he was frustrated with not getting enough balls and plays called for him and going over the middle, because he realized this was a contract year.

    bottom line, id rather have TO over Boston in the lockerroom, and on the field. i think boston is a better talent because hes built stronger and faster than TO(even tho i think he uses the roids) but isnt consistent. he had 1 good year, 2 ok years and the rest were average. when its all said and done i think david boston will be a waste of talent, hopefully he will straighten things out in miami
     
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    No NFL player is on roids, the NFL testing system is too good for that to slip by...
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    Is it me or if TO was in miami and boston was in philly that i think he would be singing a different tune? i think TO is bad for team chemistry, boston has had his own problems too. I think he has a drinking problem which was the cause of his drop-off and Arizona let him go, not roids.
     
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    I can't help but wonder if this theory has anything to do w/ the fact that TO is now an Eagle.

    TO is more of a marquee name and has gotten more bad and/or questionable recognition so IMO Terrell is more of a cancer, gemini, scorpio; It does not matter what he is! I hope the Rock (WWE) will forgive for "borrowing" one of his many catch phrases.

    Intangibles & attitude make this comparison interesting but Boston weighs 235 and runs 4.3 40 & has more upside so Miami not Philly got the better WR.

    For the record, TO copied the pom pom routine from Randy McMichael.
     
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    Pack Attack The KISS Army

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    I don't think Boston ever complained about not getting the ball, either. I'd rather have Boston than T.O.
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    no its not that wwe got TO and not boston, i think boston is a threat to the clubhouse because of his attitude. TO just hated san fransico, and he was never a problem untill this year, people forget that.

    and as for the steroids, i really dont think that boston is that big from lifting. hes at least 240-250 and a 4.4 speed. and has anger problems. that all equals steroids to me.

    yea boston has bigger upside but hasnt proven anything really except he capability of 90+ catches if he wants and to be a cancer.
     
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    Thoth Sisyphus in training

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    Dawk;

    At this point, It looks like we'll have to agree to disagree.

    I recall that you wanted both TO & The Freak in Green for 04. I truly hope that the old saying "Be careful what you wish, you may get it." does not come to bite you and the Eagles in the arse in 7 or so months.
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    i definately will have to post their stats on a week to week basis as a means of comparison
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    i like TO, and i have since he made that catch a few years ago in GB in a playoff game.i rember that live.

    im not doggin on boston and praising TO cuz 1s a eagle, its that i think people think TO is abad person and a caner. he hated his coach and QB, and thats it. here hes frends with our QB and has a good relationship with AR.

    boston is just a waste of talent who has a record and whos got anger problems.

    we all agree to disagree, i agree
     
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    Do you remember anything else about that game against the 49ers??
     
  11. Philly_Freak93

    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    they playoff game? yea TO made a catch against Darenn Sharper much like Freddie Mitchell made one against sharper this year, same route and same typle of hit.
     
  12. Thoth

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DAWK_VADER)</div><div class='quotemain'>boston is just a waste of talent who has a record and whos got anger problems.</div>

    Boston may have anger issues but what does TO's incident in Dallas for which he will always be known signify?

    I'll take anger over stupidity any day. Anger can at least be overcome, cured. solved, whatever.

    An article in one of today's Miami paper at the other site said Boston labeled as a talented but complicated loner much like Ricky Williams and we all know how well things have gone for him in S Florida.

    What exactly are you referring to Beef? I have an idea but am not 100% sure; please illuminate.
     
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    My guess is that beef is referring to all those dropped balls he had that game.
     
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    My two cents. TO was a problem before this season dawk it was just this season that it got out of control. He didn't just decide hey i'm gonna start chewing out coaches and being an ass he was doing all that with Mooch as well. He just did it louder than ever this season. Who's to say he doesn't start talking shit if you start the season slow again?
     
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    My point was that Dawk and the Eagles fans view T.O as the Eagles savior and therefore rememebr only the good, not the bad....T.O. did make the winning catch but he was having a terrible game until then, dropping multiple catchable passes and putting his team in a hole....The NFL recordbook shows that T.O. had 11 drops last year(3rd in the league), while catching just 80....thats 11 out of 91 total chances, which computes to 12% of his total chances, so 1 out of every 8 times you throw him a catchable ball, he drops it, thats a horrible %....I wouldnt call that good hands....Dawk has refered to Boston as a cancer and suggested Owens isnt, but look at thier crimes against thier teams:Boston had a D.U.I, no league penalty.....Boston got in an argument with a coach=1 game suspension.....Owens got in a shouting match on national TV with coach Gregg Knapp=no penalty....that says more about the weak 49ers orginazation than it does about whos a cancer....the other issue they make is that Boston only had 2 good seasons(98catches, 1598yards and 71 catches, 1156 yards) so thats too good out of 4(1 lost to injury).....a look at T.O.s numbers reveal hes had 5 good seasons out of 8(1102yds, 1300, 1412, 1451, 1097)....note that T.O. has never had a season as good as Boston's best....next, Boston is 25 years old, T.O. is 30 years old, WRs dont exactly age like wine, so as Boston is young and just entering his prime, T.O has likely seen his best days already....now compare the compensation packages each team surrendered, Miami gave up a future 6th(conditional to if Boston is on the roster next year) and Jamar Fletcher, a player about to get cut, Philly gave up a 5th and Brandon Whiting, a player about to be cut, so the Dolphins gave up less and nothing if it doesnt work out....what about the cash?? Miami is not paying Boston anything guaranteed in the next 2 years so if theres a problem, they cut him and take no salary cap hit, Philly gave T.O. the keys to the franchise, a $10mil bonus and a huge contract, if they have to cut him after this season, they will take a $8mil dollar cap hit....all in all, it looks like the Dolphins stand to get something for nothing, while the Eagles are paying the going rate....if either player busts, the Dolphins arent hurt at all, while the Eagles are potential crippled....perhaps that why hes Boston hating, hes trying to justify the whole thing in his mind....
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    Beef,
    drops arent anything new here, a true number 1 WR is. we havent had a good WR who could catch over 65 balls and recieve over 800 yards let alone 1000in years, i think irving fryar was the last one. its not the numbers that we like about TO its the coverage he will take away from brian westbrook who had i think 12 TDs last year in only 13 games that he played a role in, and how our TE LJ smith is gonna be a real good player and freddie mitchell has showed some ability this year, so what will the S do, double TO or cover either LJ or Westbrook.

    our offense has had some real nice speed and this helps it be used more
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    LJ smith is the one who CHOKED on monday night football right? vs bucs. I see him drop balls while he is wide open all the time. Why cover him? Duce is gone so there best pass catching back is gone, other backs can be covered by a backer no need for a safety there. so you can easily double TO and leave an 8th man in box because all other recievers on roster cant consistently beat single coverage. I see a very poor offensive season if they dont dominate line of scrimmage, then an average one
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    our o-line actually sucks on the left side, tra thomas is so bad.

    are you kidding me about LJ smith, ok he droped 3 balls on MN games, so what he had a good rookie year as a backup and you will be suprised by what freddie mithchell and LJ smith do this year

    and brian westbrook is out best back running and recieving, he was better than duce, way better than duce, he was top 5 in totaly yards and TDs if i rember correctly, he will get more touches and will play the whole season
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    weestbrook and buckhalter both have potential. back when eagles beat bears in playoffs(dammit) i remember watching buckhalter run pre-injury and he looked dominant. I thought he was going to be great. westbrook looks good at times but inconsistent. I did not say line was good, i said it had to be for the eagles to win, they have ability it is now about execution. 2 things 1) they run block better, 2) weest coast is about quick release so pass blocking is easier if recievers get open. I doubt recievers get open quick enough.
     
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    Philly_Freak93 The Oracle

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    like i said, u dont know the eagles, westbrook averaged over 6 YPC last year, buck was compared to being a marshall faulk runner b4 his injury, he will be 100% this year. our o-line isnt that good, welbourn and fraley are consistend solid Center and LG, but tra thomas and jermaine mayberry are done and overrated
     

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