A head scratching trade idea,

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  1. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    Mattingly23NY Turning Fastballs Into Souveneir's ~

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    and here Trashman had just said not long ago, He wasn't entertaining letting Miller go, upon obtaining the high stakes gamble of Chapman with His issue yet to be determined as far as: will he be suspended, will he play......

    as well to note we had a Troll on our boards, who swore both Hank and Trashman were not frauds, and do NOT flip flop like the 2 bad smelling fish they are....
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Meh.....
     
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    What's your problem??? lol
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...this depends on which "ace" they're talking about.
     
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    ^^^ I believe they're talking about Zack Wheeler as that POTENTIAL ace.
     
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    ^^^ in that case, faggeddaboutit
     
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    ^^^oh, I know who he is...I just don't see how someone who's not a strikeout pitcher, who walks a ton of batters, and has an ERA+ of 100, should/could somehow be considered "an ace".
     
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    And as I mentioned the monies would be way off. Not to add that you'd be trading away basically 2 all stars for 3 unproven players. Just a ridiculous idea. For Miller & Gardner the Yankees could do a lot better.
     
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    ^^^...yup, I'm with you...I mean most of of them when drafted have the potential to be an ace, but hell this guy pitches in the NL and has an ERA of 3.50...I just don't see him as being anything special.

    ...hell, I'd be more inclined to label Severino as a future potential ace than Wheeler.
     
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    In that deal I want Harvey
     
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    ^^^ Yup, or Sindergarden. (sp?)
     
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    Yeah Mel, that would make more sense & the Mets can keep Aza & Montero.
     
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    ...^^^
    Maybe were talking about Jokers being Wild....an Ace, nah...!
     
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    We don't have to be concerned because this trade isn't happening, imo.

    "Trashman" isnt trading Miller and he isn't breaking up this bullpen trio unless he can get an established healthy young "all star" caliber SP....or possibly a young "star" position player.
    Yanks might be better off if Chapman does get a 40-50 game suspension because it will cut his service time enough to prevent him from becoming a free agent until after the 2017 season.

    Wheeler is good but not good enough and currently not healthy enough to surrender one of the very best (Miller) relief pitchers in MLB and Gardner.
    John Harper isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I've heard him in a couple of past interviews on WFAN.......he has pipe dreams.

    Wheeler when healthy is good, not yet an "ace"....he's still "iffy".
    He doesn't give up alot of hits, but he walks too many batters.
    His health is still a question mark and there's certainly no guarantee he'll overcome his control problems....but he has shown to be a pretty darn good pitcher.

    His last full season 2014:
    32GS, allowed more than 4 ER in 4 starts. (6 R twice, 5 R twice)
    Allowed 4 or less ER in 28 of his starts, allowed 3 or less in 24 starts.
    Allowed 2 or less ER in 20 of his starts.
    Pitched at least 6 innings in 22 of his starts.
    He had one terrible start where he gave up 6 R in 2 IP....exclude that one start and he had a 3.30 ERA.

    Not yet a "good enough" (imho) center piece to give up both Miller and Gardner.

    As of now, it looks as if the Yanks can shut down ALOT of games after 5 or 6 innings if needed.
     

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