who would you rather have on your team? I would take Steve Nash after seeing what he did for the Suns i was amazed. Nash is a terrific passer and a very good shooter. <font color="Red">Please remember that all who is better type post belong in the Out of Bounds section of this forum-Henacy</font>
I'd take Iverson, Nash is kinda overrated, but is a top 2 PG (Kidd is first). Iverson took his team to the Finals, Nash never accomplished this. Iverson never had the supporting cast Nash had. Iverson put a great fight against the Lakers in the finals, when the best player he had to play with was Mutumbo, while Nash plays with guys like Marion, Amare, Joe Johnson, etc I can see why people would take Nash over Iverson, but you have to appreciate the toughness Iverson's little body brings to the court, and the consistant number he puts up every game
If you need a scorer, AI is the best choice in the leauge. If you need somebody to set up the rest of your players then you take Nash, but even AI is very capable of doing that as well.
I would take Iverson he has done a lot more with less talent you put Marion Amare Iverson on the court they would have won can't say the same about Nash can you...
They are both great players. Iverson is a better scorer, Nash is the better passer. AI beats him on defense, but I think that Nash is a better teammate.
I would probably take nash because he gets his teamates involved, while Iverson takes a lot of shots and dominates the ball.
This is way too easy, Nash hands down. There is a reason he won MVP, and iverson dribbles a bit much. Also, on the scoring point, I have to disagree because, if nash wanted to be as selfish as iverson, he could get just as many points. Taking into consideration that nash shoots a lot better percentage. So, all he would have to do is shuch up shots to get his points because he's a deadly shooter, but he is much more content with dropping a dime to one of his teammates.
Of Course I would take Nash. No questions asked. The reason Iverson doesn't have a team to help him out is because he is the team. He doesn't make anybody better. Amare wasn't so good last year, Joe Johnson wasn't that good either, nobody knew Quentin Richardson, and Marion wasn't so good either. Nash made them better can AI do that
Woah, woah, woah. Wait a minute here, so some you would really take Nash over Iverson? You must have forgotten who Iverson is. He did get eliminated in the first round while Steve Nash was playing a couple weeks ago, so I?m guessing his brilliant performance and success may still be fresh in your heads. Nevertheless, I think it?s debatable, but at the end of the day 8 out of 10 people should have Iverson over Nash in my opinion. I won't touch up on what Iverson means to his team and in general, but Steve Nash on the other hand isn't even a franchise player, he's not even a core player to this Phoenix Suns franchise. I'm going to steal an argument from og15 page here, but Nash MVP award is overrated. Why? Reason being is because the Suns brought him in to fill a role. You have Amare, Marion and Johnson, not naming Richardson all they really needed was a PG to at least make the Playoffs. So they brought Steve Nash in and boom they win 60+ games. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not taking anything away from him but Amare was probably equally as deserving for that award. All Nash did was come in and do what he had to do and that's just dish the ball, he was merely filling the role the team desired from him. It's like saying if Michael Redd comes to the Cavaliers (and we all know how desperate the Cavs are for a shooter) and the Cavs win 60+ games, Redd would be the MVP? I think not, it would hands down be LeBron James. See what I'm saying? So I don't think just because he won an MVP ranks him among the elites. And remember Iverson can do much more with less talent. Put Nash around the 2001 76ers team filled with defensive players and role players and let?s see how far he can go with them. And another thing, Nash would not be able to fit with any other team. I guarantee you if you put him on the squad A.I have had over the course of the years Nash wouldn't nearly be as successful or just put him on a team that loves the half-court game such as the Pistons and see how well he?ll do with that team. When you have a player like Nash that loves the transition games and loves pushing the ball up the floor and you take players whom compliments his style in which also loves to run like Amare, Marion and so on, it's a match made in heaven. He was just lucky to have the perfect players around him. So all in all, I think Nash may be better teammates. But skills wise and if you want a player that can give you more success I think A.I is the right choice. Nash is not even a franchise player so why or how do you draw comparisons? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Amare wasn't so good last year, Joe Johnson wasn't that good either, nobody knew Quentin Richardson, and Marion wasn't so good either. Nash made them better can AI do that</div> You must be kidding me.
You made a good point AI has all the award and all the glory and fame right. He has scoring titels and everything. Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from him but i'd like to see him with the Phoenix suns. His points would go down maybe assists would go up but, he wouldn't be as good. My point is that he doesn't make anybody better. He might be the best individual player but he is not the team player that Nash is. That's going to make Nash and the Suns the dominating team for years to come. AI is too selfish and i'd like to see him pass the ball more. He does have to potential to be a great point gaurd. Nash also has a better shooting percentage so if he wanted to get more points he can. As a matter a fact he shot a lot against the mavericks and had 40 points. AI isn't as good
I'd take AI...I think everyone bags on him for not getting teamates involved...but really who does he have to dish to that can put points on the board? I think he's alot like LeBron in the sense that he's a superstar and just can't get anyone worth a crap to play with. And please don't say Webber he showed up to 1 game in the playoffs...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CRM2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd take AI...I think everyone bags on him for not getting teamates involved...but really who does he have to dish to that can put points on the board? I think he's alot like LeBron in the sense that he's a superstar and just can't get anyone worth a crap to play with. And please don't say Webber he showed up to 1 game in the playoffs...</div> True Nash has all the players and Iverson doesn't and does what he has to do for his team to win. No one else on the team is going to put up numbers just look 2005 ..... Joe Johnson 17.1 ppg Shawn Marion 19.4 ppg Quentin Richardson 14.9 ppg Amare Stoudemire 26.0 ppg Samuel Dalembert 8.2 ppg Andre Iguodala 9.0 ppg Chris Webber 19.5 ppg and that's about all the help Iverson has on this team you look at what Nash has to play with and what Iverson is playing with there is no point to even have this post. Iverson doesn't have near the pieces to perform with like the Suns do. You put Iverson Joe Johnson Shawn Marion Amare Stoudemire You would have a team that could win it all. Not that Nash is bad but he has only done it for 6 years he couldn't do it with Dirk and Finley and all the talent he had before and he couldn't do it with all the talent he had this year. Allen got to the Finals with a lot less talent with a different type of game Iverson has done it for 9 years. Nash has had two star players Dirk and Amare to play with Iverson has never had a chance like that... So you can all be blind and pick Nash because of this year but anyone who knows anything would take Iverson.
Yea but Phoenix had all of those guys before Nash and look how much they have improvedsince he gotten there. A.I has had help like in 2001 when he made the finals. So that's an unfair excuse.
There shouldn't even be a topic playmaker lol Nash isn't even in the same league as Iverson i'm done talking about this because it's worthless.
Iverson Joe Johnson Shawn Marion Amare Stoudemire Replace Iverson with Nash? Who would make such a silly decision?
Allen Iverson over Nash. Many don`t know that AI can do the same things on the floor same as Nash or even better.
Well they are very different players. AI looks to score, while Nash looks to pass before score. Both players can score and both players can pass. Nash could score alot more if he wanted to, see the playoffs, but he does whats best for his team. AI also does whats best and thats score since he doesn't have the the quality players Nash does. I personally pick Nash
