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    ‪A judge ordered two Montana men who falsely claimed to be veterans to write the names of all Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan; write out the obituaries of the 40 Montanans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and send hand-written letters of apology to several veterans groups


    https://www.stripes.com/montana-men-get-writing-assignment-for-false-military-claims-1.595813



    GREAT FALLS, Mont. — Two Montana men who were sentenced to prison for violating the terms of the probation in separate crimes won't be eligible for parole until they complete a writing assignment given because they falsely claimed to have served in the military to have their cases moved to a Veterans Court.

    Cascade County District Judge Greg Pinski sentenced Ryan Patrick Morris, 28, and Troy Allan Nelson, 33, on Friday. Morris got 10 years in prison for violating the terms of his probation for felony burglary, while Nelson got five years on a drug possession conviction. Pinski suspended three years of each defendant's sentence.

    Before they can be eligible for parole, Pinski ordered both men to hand write the names of all 6,756 Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan; write out the obituaries of the 40 Montanans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and send hand-written letters of apology to several veterans groups identifying themselves as having lied about military service to receive help and possibly a lesser sentence through a Veterans Court.

    Veterans Court programs create and supervise treatment plans to address crimes that may be due to service-related post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury, anger issues or substance abuse.


    "I want to make sure that my message is received loud and clear by these two defendants," Pinski said Friday.

    Morris claimed in 2016 he did seven combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, had PTSD and had his hip replaced after being injured by an improvised explosive device. He was sentenced to perform 441 hours of community service with a veteran's organization — one for each Montanan killed in combat since the Korean War. Court records said he only completed 10 hours.

    Nelson managed to get himself enrolled in the Veterans Treatment Court before it was determined he hadn't served in the military, the Great Falls Tribune reported .

    Once released from prison, they must perform 441 hours of community service.

    Pinski also ordered that during the suspended portions of the sentences the defendants must stand at the Montana Veterans Memorial in Great Falls for eight hours on each Memorial Day and Veterans Day wearing a placard that says: "I am a liar. I am not a veteran. I stole valor. I have dishonored all veterans."

    Attorneys for both men objected to the placard condition.

    Attorney Mark Frisbie said his client has not been charged with stolen valor, which is a federal crime, but was being punished for it.

    Pinski said he was punishing the men for lying to the court. He also cited Montana Supreme Court rulings that give him discretion to take the stolen valor into account and others that upheld the placard requirements.
     
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    If they canvassed the homeless guys with vet signs I'll bet they'd find a lot of these guys. fake vets...being a vet will get you a discount at a cannabis dispensary but they always check my VA card
     
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    I get discounts here and there but only Home Depot checks my ID.
     
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    I've never used it at Home Depot....good tip
     
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    You might want to check Lowes as well. I noticed they have parking spots for vets only.

    Just checked. They give a 10% discount.
     
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    S2 offer a generous and substantial discount on your annual fee. If you wire $532.17 to me, I immediately to release your veterans discount forthwith.

    Your devoted servant,
    barfo
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You've gotta be permanently disabled to use it at Home Depot. Lowe's will give you the discount just for being a Veteran.
     
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    Home Depot also has parking spots for Veterans.
     

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