I want Jason Terry- pretty bad...Defense, plays hard, three's, passing, defense, plays hard, three's, good passer, plays hard, playmaker, plays hard. I love this guy, I would love to see him with the Cavaliers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Mar 30 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want Jason Terry- pretty bad...Defense, plays hard, three's, passing, defense, plays hard, three's, good passer, plays hard, playmaker, plays hard. I love this guy, I would love to see him with the Cavaliers.</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: Since when did he pass?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 30 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: Since when did he pass?</div>What the heck are you talking about, "since when did he pass?" Do you mean, "Since when does he pass?" Because everyone is basketball passes the ball sometime in their life. And I am not talking about hogging the ball, I am talking about his passing ability, which he has.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Mar 30 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What the heck are you talking about, "since when did he pass?" Do you mean, "Since when does he pass?" Because everyone is basketball passes the ball sometime in their life. And I am not talking about hogging the ball, I am talking about his passing ability, which he has.</div>and steve nash has a dunking ability
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 30 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and steve nash has a dunking ability </div>You don't think Terry can pass? He is better than Snow that is for sure.
I wanted Jason Terry ever since last season but he signed back with Dallas and there is just no way we can get him. My dream is to find a way and get Kevin Garnett. Garnett is gonna opt out or ask for a trade and I think if Cleveland finds a way to give up their young guys and such we can grab KG and FINALLY a big on defense. No way we get him, but again, dream.PG-Hughes(They wont want his contract)SG-Sasha(if still here)SF-King JamesPF-Kevin GarnettC-Big Z.Trade Gooden, Anderson, Brown and whatever else they want to get the man here..lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Mar 30 2007, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted Jason Terry ever since last season but he signed back with Dallas and there is just no way we can get him. My dream is to find a way and get Kevin Garnett. Garnett is gonna opt out or ask for a trade and I think if Cleveland finds a way to give up their young guys and such we can grab KG and FINALLY a big on defense. No way we get him, but again, dream.PG-Hughes(They wont want his contract)SG-Sasha(if still here)SF-King JamesPF-Kevin GarnettC-Big Z.Trade Gooden, Anderson, Brown and whatever else they want to get the man here..lol</div>I would love him myself, but I would rather try and get rid of Big Z for him personally. Having a guy like KG would only add to the "Slow Z" problem. keeping AV with KG would be great, and they both have the same two letter style nick-names. Would they do it? No, but it never hurts to try.
Wow PPF your so off on this as well. Jason Terry is an excellent passer. He always makes the extra pass if given the chance. Also, due to the way the Mavericks play, Terry isnt going to average 10+ assists. This season he is averaging 5.3, which is a good amount for a player, and he's actaully not the full time point guard. Him and Harris share the duty, but Harris gets more minutes handling the ball and starting the offense. Matter of fact, in his career, he averages 5.3 assists a game. I take it you really havent seen the Mavs this season or watched Terry play a lot in his career.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Mar 30 2007, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would love him myself, but I would rather try and get rid of Big Z for him personally. Having a guy like KG would only add to the "Slow Z" problem. keeping AV with KG would be great, and they both have the same two letter style nick-names. Would they do it? No, but it never hurts to try.</div>I doubt we can trade Z though. His contract and his age play a factor in the mix and Anderson is young and is a free agent next season. Sasha could also play a factor in this deal, but I would rather much try and keep him and they remain our top three. Gooden/Anderson would have to go thats just a must. You never though, this could happen but I doubt it because they can get more for KG.
Jason Terry isn't even the full-time PG on the Mavs, him and Devin Harris take turns setting up the offense. If he was, I'm pretty sure he'd average more than 6 assists a game. His job is just to set up the offense (when he needs to), play solid defense, and hit open shots.
I could never see Jason Terry going to the Cavaliers any time soon unless an offer involving Hughes and a hustle player like Varejao goes through. This way the mavericks can develop Devin Harris into a true PG and make something very valuable out of him. However, Jason Terry has shown that he fits in great with the Mavericks and I know the Mavs are in no rush to change their roster with the great succes they've had through this years regular season becoming the powerhouse of the NBA.
jason terry is one of the worst passing pgs in the NBA. with all the talent on the Mavs roster he should be averaging at least 9 a game. You put almost any other pg in his posistion (with the exception of skip, jamaal and smush) and they me putting up 9 per.
And there is no way in heck that the Timberwolves would want any of the players you mentioned. Face it - you don't have the players to make a deal for a big time player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 31 2007, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jason terry is one of the worst passing pgs in the NBA. with all the talent on the Mavs roster he should be averaging at least 9 a game. You put almost any other pg in his posistion (with the exception of skip, jamaal and smush) and they me putting up 9 per.</div> He's not a true PG, he sets up the offense sometimes (half the time Devin Harris does) but is focused on being a scorer rather than finding the open man. You should have figured this out long ago, if Jason Terry wanted to be a true PG which is what he originally was doing during his first couple of weeks with the Mavs he was doing a fine job but the Mavericks want him scoring. Stats can be used as an example but can't stand by themselves as a point PFF. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And there is no way in heck that the Timberwolves would want any of the players you mentioned. Face it - you don't have the players to make a deal for a big time player.</div> There are plenty of packages that the Cavs could send out which wuold make teams bite. Deals involving the young talented Daniel Gibson, a guy like Anderson Varejao/Gooden/Marshall and/or an expiring contract with picks could be what the Timberwolves want when they finally decide to trade KG. Which there is no assurance that they ever will do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 31 2007, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's not a true PG, he sets up the offense sometimes (half the time Devin Harris does) but is focused on being a scorer rather than finding the open man. You should have figured this out long ago, if Jason Terry wanted to be a true PG which is what he originally was doing during his first couple of weeks with the Mavs he was doing a fine job but the Mavericks want him scoring. Stats can be used as an example but can't stand by themselves as a point PFF. There are plenty of packages that the Cavs could send out which wuold make teams bite. Deals involving the young talented Daniel Gibson, a guy like Anderson Varejao/Gooden/Marshall and/or an expiring contract with picks could be what the Timberwolves want when they finally decide to trade KG. Which there is no assurance that they ever will do.</div>From another team's point of view - there is no way in heck I'd want any of those players. Those aren't the kind of players you rebuild with. And assists tell the whole story. I agree that lots of stats don't but assists do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 31 2007, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From another team's point of view - there is no way in heck I'd want any of those players. Those aren't the kind of players you rebuild with. And assists tell the whole story. I agree that lots of stats don't but assists do.</div> Firstly, I'd like to point out that Gibson is a very talented young PG and the draft picks are what should make the Timberwolves bite. However there is no question that hte Cavs would need to give up alot for KG, so would any team. Also about the Assists, that's not true at all. Jason Terry isn't focused on passing the ball as I explained to you. He tried it at first because thats what Nash did in Dallas but it didn't work and he became a scorer which is where he feels the most comfortable. He's the number 2/3 option on the team and Avery Johnson is happy with how Jason Terry plays his position on the court.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 31 2007, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Firstly, I'd like to point out that Gibson is a very talented young PG and the draft picks are what should make the Timberwolves bite. However there is no question that hte Cavs would need to give up alot for KG, so would any team. Also about the Assists, that's not true at all. Jason Terry isn't focused on passing the ball as I explained to you. He tried it at first because thats what Nash did in Dallas but it didn't work and he became a scorer which is where he feels the most comfortable. He's the number 2/3 option on the team and Avery Johnson is happy with how Jason Terry plays his position on the court.</div>You do relize that you can score and pass? Steve Nash averages 3 more ppg than Terry and 2 times as many assists per game. So this nonsense about scoring is ridiculous.Of all the teams in the league, Cleveland has one of the least tradable rosters.
PPF you have no idea how the Mavericks offense works do you? It is all about iso mismatch plays and the pick and roll. Grant you that you should pick up assists on the pick and roll, and that is where most of the assists that the Mavericks get come from, but its not a Princeton style offense where guys pick up 10 assists a game by themselves. First and formost Terry is a shooter. This season he has be handling and starting the offense less than years previous. Harris and Howard share this duty as well. Harris is the primary point guard in the Mavericks set. Now when you have an offense that relies on iso plays, your not going to pick up a ton of assists not because you arent making good passes or being greedy with the ball, but because the player who recieves the ball usually takes longer than allowed for an assist to count. I believe the guy who recieves the ball has to score within a two dribbles or so for it to count as an assist for passer. The Mavericks usually take a little longer than that and spread the court for that player to score on thier mismatch.Also, you say that he should average around 10 assists on this team. Like I said before, almost EVERY player on the Mavericks are great 1 on 1 players that create mismathes. Dirk Nowitzki, Josh Howard, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Devin Harris, and Mo Ager are all iso players. They are scorers that need the ball to score. They arent going to backdoor you to death and get easy layups that build up assist counts. I'm not sure what else I can say, I'm pretty sure just about everyone else that watches basketball knows that Terry is an adaquate passer on his team. He's no Steve Nash, but who really is other than Steve Nash?
PFF, you can't except every point to pass like Nash, that is just retarded. For one thing, Nash has a great setup for him to get the assists he is able to get. He has powerful inside offensive players, almost everyone on the team can spot shoot, three point shooters galore, he is a great player, but it doesn't take a offensive passing mastermind to get an assist on the fast paced, high scoring, Suns offense.pjcolpitts?, did a great job explaining that just because you can pass, and just because you have a good team, doesn't mean you should have a whole bunch of assists. The way the offense is ran and how many touches you are able to get in that offense can hinder your asissts per game stat big time. Since Terry is a shooter, he does get the ball just to shoot in some plays, because of this, he is going to have less assists than he would normally if he played like a Jason Kidd or even Steve Nash.Besides, give me a good reason why he sucks at passing? Does he not see open men? Is his 1.9 turnovers a game that bad? Are most his passes off the mark? Why, aside from assists, do you think he sucks at passing? Because, when you pass the ball, you don't get an assist for each time you do it. There are so many variables to getting an assist, it isn't as clear cut as a rebound, block, or point. I never said "I want Jason Terry because of his amazing 'Nash like passing ability' this would be great!" Did I? No, I said he was a good passer and we could use that.The Cavaliers had been looking for a shooting, defending, playmaking, point- and Jason Terry is that. I would love to have him with the Cavaliers, that is my little, small, dream.
