last match,sura was block down by new yorks,yao came near and show his hand,but sura just dont look at him.damn sura!!what <font color="red">Edited</font> thing do you think you are ???? you are just a <font color="red">Edited</font> who always go for the statistcis, dont overrate yourself when got fluke high points,the victory is dengpend on t-mac and yao,not you. always yao get the low place,but sura dont pass.it's a team work and you must confess yao is the most efficient palyer on the ground! <font color="red"><font size="-2">Please refrain from profanity and double-posting. Failure to abide the guidelines will result in suspension or banning.-Trip</font></font>
always yao get the low place,but sura dont pass.it's a team work and you must confess yao is the most efficient palyer on the ground!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 4759913:</div><div class="quote_post">last match,sura was block down by new yorks,yao came near and show his hand,but sura just dont look at him.damn sura!!what <font color="Red">edited </font> thing do you think you are ???? you are just a dog who always go for the statistcis, dont overrate yourself when got fluke high points,the victory is dengpend on t-mac and yao,not you. </div> Sura is a pretty complete player and the Rockets would probably not be doing too well without him. Btw, avoid the profantiy.
I don't know what your on, but Sura is one of our consistent players. without him, we are in big trouble.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know what your on, but Sura is one of our consistent players. without him, we are in big trouble.</div> I'm thinking this fan is a little bit biased. =P
How many Rockets games has this person even watched in Beijing? I have more respect for what Sura has done for the Rockets this year than Yao Ming. And I wonder how many times Sura has passed the ball to Yao and he couldn't handle the ball or missed a point-blank shot. Yao isn't at the level where he's an automatic goto option.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">How many Rockets games has this person even watched in Beijing? I have more respect for what Sura has done for the Rockets this year than Yao Ming. And I wonder how many times Sura has passed the ball to Yao and he couldn't handle the ball or missed a point-blank shot. Yao isn't at the level where he's an automatic goto option.</div> It's nothing to do with whether Sura passes the ball to Yao. Even Sura didn't pass the ball to Yao, after so many games, Yao should already get used to it. He should pay more attention to the rebound and avoid TOs. These are his priority jobs! But if what this guy said is true and something thing really went wrong between Sura and Yao, it will be a big issue. Remember, Yao is the guy who didn't sign a long term with us. If he doesn't feel happy and requests for a trade, what we can do? If he just wants a big contract and only cares about his stat, takes some shots he shouldn't take, doesn't pass the ball, That surely will hurt us. Actually, I always think we should trade Yao. But if you want me to make a choice between Sura and Yao, I prefer Yao.
If we didn't have Sura, we would have lost a lot of our games. He delivers whenever we need him and his stats show that he is one of our main players on the court. He's a consistent player and an intergral part of the team. God knows where we would be without him running the point for us.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 4759913:</div><div class="quote_post">last match,sura was block down by new yorks,yao came near and show his hand,but sura just dont look at him.damn sura!!what <font color="red">Edited</font> thing do you think you are ???? you are just a <font color="red">Edited</font> who always go for the statistcis, dont overrate yourself when got fluke high points,the victory is dengpend on t-mac and yao,not you. </div> Right Right, lets just get the ball to Yao & T-Mac everyone else go for assist and rebounds, they can go the full match and score 50 points each on average right? I admit sometimes I get angry at Sura for taking shots that he misses, but in reality he helps the team in alot of ways. Don't swear and diss our players, he's alot better then you'll ever be. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and you must confess yao is the most efficient palyer on the ground!</div> You're joking right? i'm guessing he's the most consistent too? the greatest scoring threat? a top passer? the best ballhandler in the NBA? I think you're just a tad bit biased.
Yao Ming is by no means efficient, and Sura is by no means a ball hog. Ming does not have the consistency and his rebounding average has dropped also. Meanwhile, Sura is all-around, and knows how to get Yao the ball. While he didn't pass to Yao last night, how many times do you recall when Sura did pass Yao the ball?
Its a good thing we have sura, he fills in for all the dissapointments that Yao has if you ask me. if you put him at center, hed probably even get more rebounds than yao. I dont think sura passes yao the ball much, but i find that more of yao's problem.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">Its a good thing we have sura, he fills in for all the dissapointments that Yao has if you ask me. if you put him at center, hed probably even get more rebounds than yao. I dont think sura passes yao the ball much, but i find that more of yao's problem.</div> Right! Why we don't trade Yao for someone who can follow T-mac and Sura's pace and do much better in transition offence? Now, Yao is by no means efficient and always slow down our offence. And he is foul prone in defense and cannot guard quick PF or C. He doesn't deserve a max salary. We'd better trade him now.
Trade Yao are yall crazy? He led the rockets to the finals last year and he needs to lead us this year too, so dont trade yao or we will start becoming bad
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YugoRocketsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">Trade Yao are yall crazy? He led the rockets to the finals last year and he needs to lead us this year too, so dont trade yao or we will start becoming bad</div> When did Yao lead us to the Finals? We were knocked out in the first round last year. And for your information, Yao never "led" the team. Sure, he led Houston in scoring last year, but the leader was Steve Francis. Yao still isn't a leader, and it's unlikely he will play that role anytime soon.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YugoRocketsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">Trade Yao are yall crazy? He led the rockets to the finals last year and he needs to lead us this year too, so dont trade yao or we will start becoming bad</div> Haha the finals, like Trip said we got knocked out the first round and Francis was always the team leader. Although I do agree that we shouldn't trade Yao [/Biased Asian Rockets Fan]
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dan Le:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha the finals, like Trip said we got knocked out the first round and Francis was always the team leader. Although I do agree that we shouldn't trade Yao [/Biased Asian Rockets Fan]</div> I always hear someone says we cannot trade Yao, why not? If we sign Yao a max contract, which I think CD surely will do by the end of this summer, with T-mac and Yao's salaries, we have no cap to sign any other good players and we will be even further away from the championship! Yes, we need a defensive PF and we also need a good PG, they all need money. We are not Knicks or Lakers and we don't have Cuban as our boss. What we can do? SO I think we should trade Yao now for some cheaper, but more efficient players or for draft picks!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hdchy:</div><div class="quote_post">I always hear someone says we cannot trade Yao, why not? If we sign Yao a max contract, which I think CD surely will do by the end of this summer, with T-mac and Yao's salaries, we have no cap to sign any other good players and we will be even further away from the championship! Yes, we need a defensive PF and we also need a good PG, they all need money. We are not Knicks or Lakers and we don't have Cuban as our boss. What we can do? SO I think we should trade Yao now for some cheaper, but more efficient players or for draft picks!</div> While I believe we could trade Yao, doing it now is not good for the team. Yao is only 25 years old and still has a lot of potential. Even though people are knocking on him for not improving much, he has improved his scoring every season and none of his statistic categories have dropped significantly. It'll be a major disappointment if we trade Yao and he becomes a future MVP.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">While I believe we could trade Yao, doing it now is not good for the team. Yao is only 25 years old and still has a lot of potential. Even though people are knocking on him for not improving much, he has improved his scoring every season and none of his statistic categories have dropped significantly. It'll be a major disappointment if we trade Yao and he becomes a future MVP.</div> Yeah, I can't remember who pointed this out but someone said something like how College players play for 4 years and then when they enter the NBA, and they're more used to the atmosphere, style of game etc etc, well I thought about that and I actually think it might be true!, if it is next year will be the year Yao flourishes, if he doesn't then I don't have an excuse for him, he's the best he can be. You said trade him for someone else, Yao is the second best TRUE center in the league only behind Shaq (I can't think of anyone else anyway) and Shaq is a possible hall of famer in the future, so unless your trade would be for Shaq (which obviously won't happen) or another PF I can't see who we can really get..., I can really see Yao being better in the future never a 30/12 guy or anything but maybe a 25/11. Yao has been playing great in the past 2 games anyway, he's been knocking down long shots and has shot a good percentage, I know it might just be 2 games, but if he's really improving like that and we trade him and he becomes a superstar on another team, I couldn't bear it, we all know Karma's a *****
Do u want charlie ward back or something..he isnt a statistics grabber..4759 u must be a yao only fan but it's tough to pass to yao when he's having trouble being fronted and doubled and not finding any space in the low post. The only point guards who can give guys easy points are jason kidd and steve nash..trust me , 4759324! u should point your petty fingers elsewhere for yao's inconsistencies..it's not sura's fault
Like I said in the other tread, trading Yao now in my honest opinion would be a step back for the franchise. We're trying to build a contender team and with Yao inside and Tracy outside, it's easier to surround them with good role players. Another thing is that I'm not sure who you could trade Yao for. If it were a superstar PF, I would be tempted but other than that, only superstars would really tempt me into parting with Yao. Although he hasn't improve dramatically, his also hasn't been worse as you can see in his stats. I'd give him a couple more seasons to see what he's really made off because I can really see Yao being a 25, 10 kinda of player.
