Did my ears decieve me or when Deion Sanders was talking about his interview with Pacman Jones, did he include Ray Lewis & Deangelo Hall in the list of players who felt the punisment was too severe. The issue about not asking only older, mature players was quite amusing as well. Either you choose to behave or you do not. I am not sure age is relevant. I also found it absurd that Deion was worried that with the new crackdown of the rules that fans would entice players into altercations when they did not want to sign autographs and such. Please... And the whole "team not having the power to make a curfew " is ridiculous. Isn't that akin to any of us being back from lunch or getting to work on time? Besides, the league tried asking players to be responsible and stay out of trouble and that didn't work. These guys are athletes and are being compensated very well for their ability to perform on the field and for keeping their bodies in top condition. Whats wrong with an employer, due to these facts. requesting that you not be a drunkard and try to get enough rest. For the money these guys make, I believe I could deal with a curfew. It is their choice though. Millions of dollars and a curfew. Or freedom to be a thug and asking people if they want fries with their order. I just lost the little respect I had for Deion.
Why do I have the feeling that if if John Lynch, Zach Thomas, or Patrick Kerney were to be the "example" that Deion would spout off that the punishment was not severe enough. I don't care to hear all the media experts try to condone behavior like Pacman's on stuff like how & where he was raised, etc... It all comes down to choices. Be it your "friends", what you do in your free time, how you react to stressful situations i.e Ricky W, etc... These players have been treated as special their whole lives because of their talent. So, they finally cash in. Super. Are the teams out of line in asking them to use a little common sense & moderation once in awhile too much? I don't think so. p.s. I will always remember Deion as a clueless, loudmouth, egocentric, mercenary w/ no tackling skills.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why do I have the feeling that if if John Lynch, Zach Thomas, or Patrick Kerney were to be the "example" that Deion would spout off that the punishment was not severe enough.</div> I agree 100%, Im sure he thinks they are trying to keep the "black man" down or something stupid. Deion shouldn't even have a job right now the way he acted throughout the first 10 years of his career. The guys a joke defending his buddies and everyone knows it!
Sanders and Irvin take the player apologist act to the next level...I do not think the Pacman deal was handled fairly, but to call it "harsh" is silly. If you work for a corporation , and are a public face, you are going to have repercussions stem from your actions.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsnyder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Sanders and Irvin take the player apologist act to the next level...I do not think the Pacman deal was handled fairly, but to call it "harsh" is silly. If you work for a corporation , and are a public face, you are going to have repercussions stem from your actions.</div> What if you are a Hotel heiress? ROFL.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>And the whole "team not having the power to make a curfew " is ridiculous. Isn't that akin to any of us being back from lunch or getting to work on time? Besides, the league tried asking players to be responsible and stay out of trouble and that didn't work. These guys are athletes and are being compensated very well for their ability to perform on the field and for keeping their bodies in top condition. Whats wrong with an employer, due to these facts. requesting that you not be a drunkard and try to get enough rest. For the money these guys make, I believe I could deal with a curfew. It is their choice though.</div> The team shouldn't be making curfews. These are multimillion dollar professionals, not students. No, I don't understand your analogy, I am on a salary, not a time clock. If you are in a situation where you are a student, or you work hourly, and have specific times when you have to clock in, then this makes more sense. The coaches or team can request whatever they want of these guys, but the only music they have to face is whether or not the coach chooses to sit them for the next game or practice. I don't have a curfew at my job, and I get paid well. I sometimes come to work a little later than some people. It makes little difference as long as I show my boss some results when it comes time. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Millions of dollars and a curfew. Or freedom to be a thug and asking people if they want fries with their order.</div> Well, it's just not that black and white. There are many jobs out there that fall in between those two extreme examples. Also, people who stay out real late and get drunk are not all thugs. Go read up on the definition of a thug. I stay out late sometimes, drink, and don't meet any of those definitions. Also, alcohol consumption is legal in my state, and can be purchased up to 2am from any store -grocery store, gas station, bar, etc. You may be guilty or stereotyping.
A Raider fan who isn't a thug? Wouldn't that be a first! Naw, your ok in my book, but extreme examples sometimes elicit responses and at least this thread finally moved. I still stand by my curfew assertions although I will admit to a degree of stereotyping in that last bit.
Regardless of how you get paid, I've never known employers not to have a code of conduct for their employees whether implictly or explicitly stated. While I agree w/ Charles Barkley that athletes aren't role models, they have to realize that they are in the public spotlight and therefore more scrutinized by the working men that admire them. I don't care what hijinx Terrell, Ron Mexico, Tiger, or even Jeff Gordon pull. They have a drive/desire/talents that I never will and are more worthy of their notoriety than Paris Hilton who has no skills whatsoever.
