About that "emergency" stimulus bill

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    From the CBO report:

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/05-25-Impact_of_ARRA.pdf

    ARRA’s Long-Run Effects

    In contrast to its positive near-term macroeconomic
    effects, ARRA will reduce output slightly in the long run,
    CBO estimates—by between zero and 0.2 percent after
    2016. But CBO expects that the legislation will have no
    long-term effects on employment because the U.S. economy
    will have a high rate of use of its labor resources in
    the long run.

    ARRA’s long-run impact on the economy will stem primarily
    from the resulting increase in government debt.

    To the extent that people hold their wealth in government
    securities rather than in a form that can be used to finance
    private investment, the increased debt tends to
    reduce the stock of productive private capital. In the long
    run, each dollar of additional debt crowds out about a
    third of a dollar’s worth of private domestic capital, CBO
    estimates. (The remainder of the rise in debt is offset by
    increases in private saving and inflows of foreign capital.)
    Because of uncertainty about the degree of crowding out,
    however, CBO’s range of estimates of ARRA’s long-run
    effects reflects the possibility that the extent of crowding
    out could be more or less than one-third of the added
    debt.

    Over the long term, the output of the economy depends
    on the stock of productive capital, the supply of labor,
    and productivity. The less productive capital there is as
    a result of lower private investment, the smaller will be
    the nation’s output over the long run.
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    gee, i'm shocked.

    who could have seen this coming.
     
  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    In other shocking news, buying food and eating it leaves you with less money than you would have had if you didn't buy food.

    barfo
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The CBO report wasn't very favorable to the stimulus proposed and enacted at all. The spending multipliers mostly sub 1.0 (a cost, not a benefit). The bump to GDP negligible. The cost per job created on the order of $500K (best case) to over $1M (realistic case).

    The summer of recovery never happened. Yet Obama's out bragging about 4M new jobs created, but those are since the stimulus spending ENDED, not due to the spending.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    4 Million Jobs is 4 Million Jobs, no matter how you spin it. The man prevented a DEPRESSION.
     
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    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Without the stimulus, this country would have starved / collapsed. :MARIS61: :MARIS61: :MARIS61:
     
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    ...in what country?! :dunno:
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    In this country. Wake up.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    ^^ How do you know his policies didn't make things worse and the effects last longer?
     

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