Afghanistan could get 30,000 new US troops

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  1. Denny Crane

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    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - The top U.S. military officer said Saturday that the Pentagon could double the number of American forces in Afghanistan by next summer to 60,000 - the largest estimate of potential reinforcements ever publicly suggested.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that between 20,000 and 30,000 additional U.S. troops could be sent to Afghanistan to bolster the 31,000 already there.

    This year has been the deadliest for U.S. forces in Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion to oust the Taliban for hosting al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. Suicide attacks and roadside bombs have become more dangerous, and Taliban fighters have infiltrated wide swaths of countryside and now roam in provinces on Kabul's doorstep.

    U.S. commanders have long requested an additional 20,000 troops to aid Canadian and British forces in two provinces just outside Kabul and in the south. But the high end of Mullen's range is the largest number any top U.S. military official has said could be sent to Afghanistan.
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    Mullen said that increase would include combat forces but also aviation, medical and civilian affairs support troops.

    "So some 20,000 to 30,000 is the window of overall increase from where we are right now," he told a news conference at a U.S. base in Kabul. "We certainly have enough forces to be successful in combat, but we haven't had enough forces to hold the territory that we clear."

    Overall, there are more than 60,000 foreign troops in Afghanistan. Mullen said any increased U.S. deployment would be directly tied to force levels in Iraq, where U.S. commanders are drawing down troops.

    "The Taliban and extremists are more sophisticated and effective," Mullen said. "They haven't won any battles but they certainly have increased the level of violence, and we're very focused on that. That's why the additional forces are so important, to be able to provide security for the Afghan people so these other areas can be developed."

    U.S. officials already have plans to send four ground brigades and an aviation brigade to Afghanistan. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has approved the deployment of the aviation brigade, defense officials told The Associated Press. And 10th Mountain Division forces will deploy next month to two provinces that neighbor Kabul - Wardak and Logar, which have seen an influx of militants over the last year.

    Mullen said that after the additional U.S. troops are added over the next eight months, only improvements in Afghanistan's governance and economic situation will affect the strength of the insurgency.

    But the chairman conceded that the U.S. may have misjudged the central government's ability "to have the kind of impact that we wanted."

    Afghanistan, Mullen said, has never been run by a strong central government, and the U.S. may look to communities and tribes in the country's provinces to take on a greater role in future strategy.

    He called U.S. goals in Afghanistan "moderate," and said the long-term U.S. vision is for a country that can govern itself while respecting international law, while providing both material and economic security for its people.
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    [FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]But the chairman conceded that the U.S. may have misjudged the central government's ability "to have the kind of impact that we wanted."

    Afghanistan, Mullen said, has never been run by a strong central government, and the U.S. may look to communities and tribes in the country's provinces to take on a greater role in future strategy.
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    I think the headline is misleading. They'll actually be reconditioned.

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    Did the ......*gasp*..... Deep State get Denny?
     
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    11 years later and we’re still there.
    Let’s get another establishment candidate elected so we can cheers to another 11 years!
     
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    Hmmm...using the logic of some, Trump is a "war criminal".
     
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    Who’s logic would that be? Trump didn’t start that war.
     
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    Doesn't matter.
     
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    Are you talking about a replacement in the Republican party for Trump?
     
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    You just said above in a sarcastic manner that "Let’s get another establishment candidate elected so we can cheers to another 11 years!". So now you're defending the guy that is doing the same thing as your disparagement of a Democrat would supposedly be doing. Doesn't make sense unless of course you're trying to fit the fantasized scenario to the situation. I think they call that projecting.
     
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    This does seem to imply that Trump is an establishment candidate, since he hasn't ended the war.

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    Fair enough. Every president since Bush has been a POS. You won’t get any disagreement from me there.
     
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    Only since Bush? I'm pretty sure if you looked into it you could find a reason to say all the ones up to and including Bush were POSs too.

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    Also fair.
     
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    Does this include Trump?
     
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    Yes, but does this also include Trump?...just looking for some clarification so that there's no confusion...a simple yes or no will do.
     
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    I’m sorry, I’m not going to spell out simple things for you.
     
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    Not sure you can spell out anything worth noting...but if so, why don't you just say the words, "Trump is also a piece of shit" ?
     
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